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Give users the option to tweet from the main window, instead of a separate window
I'd like to have the option of being able to tweet from the main user interface instead of a separate window. The pop-out window itself doesn't bother me that much, but I personally think the 'flow' of sending a tweet would be much smoother without having a new window.
I’m sure it's not a massive change to make
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Sorry to be a bubble burster but we're really fond of the method we've chosen. We obviously have thought about how we think a Twitter client ought to behave and we're going to do our best to implement it. There is pretty much no chance that Tweetie will have an 'imbedded tweet window'.
The advantages (enumerated in this thread and another) far out weigh any perceived shortcomings.
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I'm not sure how having both would be such a bad thing.. I just think if you are in the window already, the ability to:
a) press tab and start typing your tweet
b) press command-R and be typing in the same window without having to look for where the pop-up when
make this a positive UI addition.
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Yes—this is a huge one for me. Definitely the "flow" as Anthony puts it would be better for me if the tweet window was docked at the bottom of the main one.
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Inappropriate?Yes—this is a huge one for me. Definitely the "flow" as Anthony puts it would be better for me if the tweet window was docked at the bottom of the main one.
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Inappropriate?The beauty of the pop out is I can be writing a tweet, reply to another and draft another, all at the same time... :D
I *love* the separate window composer! :)
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I admit, I like this ability - but having the option of putting a tweet window on the UI would make it easier in some cases. -
But Tweets aren't emails - how frequently do you have messages of merely 140 characters which are so intricate that you need to leave them as drafts, instead of just sending them, before replying to others?
I can understand the draft feature, to save one current tweet-in-progress if you need to step away from the computer, but as far as using it to write multiple tweets at the same time - really? -
Inappropriate?The lack of a embedded Tweet window is virtually a deal breaker for me. I can see a separate compose window has some use but 99% of the time embedded is sufficient, faster and more screen efficient for me.
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I would like the feature too, but it is hardly a deal breaker I would think.
You would need to move the cursor to the "Compose" area of the window anyway to make it active to type (like Twitterrific). As it stands now you can hit Command-N while you are in the app (or setup another global key command to do it from anywhere) which brings up the new tweet window as well. So speed doesn't seem to be an issue (I find keystrokes faster than cursor movement).
As for screen efficient, I like the idea of being able to use the entire height of my screen to show tweets and not have the bottom 1/6th or so taken up by a box that is blank most of the time. But that is just personal opinion of course. -
I had not found the Cmd-N combo, but now I have so I'm OK ;) Still need groups though.
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Inappropriate?I don't like having the tweet window built in for two reasons. maybe as an option, but #1 you can't write multiple tweets that way and #2 it's too easy to mistweet.
I much prefer this design. :)
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Inappropriate?I agree, the animations and fade is nice, but it requires a longer workflow.
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Inappropriate?I like the way it is :)
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Inappropriate?Sorry to be a bubble burster but we're really fond of the method we've chosen. We obviously have thought about how we think a Twitter client ought to behave and we're going to do our best to implement it. There is pretty much no chance that Tweetie will have an 'imbedded tweet window'.
The advantages (enumerated in this thread and another) far out weigh any perceived shortcomings.
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Inappropriate?If the Post window remembered it's position (which I would like to see for other reasons) that could potentially be a workaround of sorts for this issue as well.2 Comments Add a comment
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This is coming!
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Great to hear on the windows remembering position!
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Inappropriate?Why? This is why tweetie is good - not like any1 around.
Please! Don't add post field in main window!
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Inappropriate?I'm not sure how having both would be such a bad thing.. I just think if you are in the window already, the ability to:
a) press tab and start typing your tweet
b) press command-R and be typing in the same window without having to look for where the pop-up when
make this a positive UI addition.
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and it only adds 7 pixels ;)
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Inappropriate?Guess I'll dump the app - not so much because this feature isn't there but the poor attitude in ashponders response. Nothing wrong with listening and maybe even letting users choose their preferred method.
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I have to admit I'm a little disappointed with the general attitude of ashponders' comment. As a developer with a "new on the scene" (shareware) application, you'd think their aim would be to create an enjoyable experience for as many users as possible... not to develop their app in a vacuum. I would quickly jump ship from Twitterific if only a few simple features were added to Tweetie. Now I'm left wondering what the chances are of that happening, as some of my ideas might be new or different from the image in their heads.
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It's certainly not the case that we ignore user's input (the list of features we are considering at the moment is MASSIVE).
It's simply impossible for us to incorporate everyone's ideas, even if they are good ideas, without editorial control. That 'attitude' is what makes Tweetie (and all good creative endeavors) unique and wonderful.
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I think you guys are looking at it the wrong way. When you are developing a great app, you can't be everything to everyone. You can't constantly solve the edge cases of the 10-20% of people that say, "it would be cool to do this too" - it both increases your technical debt in code maintenance as well as it putting the developer in the position of no longer holding the vision of the application. I would suggest reading the blog from Garrett Dimon on making feature requests (http://nextupdate.com/blog/archives/2...).
Remember too - when a company or developer stands for something, and really stands by their vision - they not only have customers, they have fans. Sure some will love them and some will hate them... But everyone will have an opinion. Just because not having an input window isn't how you are envisioning the product, doesn't make it wrong. I'm sorry if Tweetie for Mac isn't going to fit your needs as well as it seems to be fitting mine. -
I hardly view ashponders' response as that of having a "bad attitude." You requested a feature and he explained why they aren't doing it. There will never be one Twitter client that makes everyone happy.
On a similar note, if you insist on inline responses you might keep an eye out for the upcoming Beak application. Screenshots I've seen indicate that it behaves that way. http://www.beakapp.com
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To be honest, it isn't even the feature (or lack there of) that evoked a response from me. It was the "this is our vision and your idea doesn't fit it so we won't do it" comment that just smacked of arrogance. It would be a different situation if we were talking about a product with years of market exposure and an existing userbase. But this is an app that was released today, I just expected a different sort of attitude.
And yes, I realize that the 80/20 rule has to apply, I don't dispute that. But there's a huge gap between "we can't do this right now because we have a mile long list of things to develop" and "sorry, your idea doesn't fit our vision of a wonderful product" and leaving it at that. -
I think Tweetie is far away from being developed 'in a vacuum'. There is obviously a thoughtful concept behind tweetie's user interface and a clear reason for the separate tweetwindow. If you just take a look on how many feature requests are being considered by atebits on this board, you'd know that their attitude is perfectly ok.
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Inappropriate?I LOVE the separate window. You can easily invoke it with ⌘N and send your tweet with ⌘-Return. What's not to like??1 Comment Add a comment
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I love it to, I just want both! when I'm in the tweetie window I want something even quicker ;)
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Inappropriate?I find the popup window VERY annoying. It just adds clutter to the app. An inline tweet box (even if it wasn't always visible) would be MUCH better.
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How long does it take you to compose a tweet? It's 140 characters! It's there fleetingly. Maybe you should check out twhirl if you don't like the box.
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It's not really that it is there for a long time it just breaks my context from the app. to have to go look for this tiny little orphaned window. For an app with as much polish as Tweetie seems to have this odd context shift seems very out of place to me.
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Separate from the issue of the popup existing is I'm running dual displays and the popup animates to display on the top monitor then last minute switches to the bottom one which looks really odd.
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Inappropriate?This is a serious bummer. The pop-up is so unnecessary. I understand that some users may want it, but I'd love to see both as options. It's just too much -- Twitter is simple, and therefore, I want my Twitter client to be as well.
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Inappropriate?I've seen a number of tweets of people not knowing how to tweet from Tweetie-Mac. The cmd-n or tiny new tweet button are not obvious and everyone I've talked to has found it very annoying.
I don't see the benefit of the popup tweet window.
Atebits please listen to your users...
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the pop-up is great if you aren't in the app and want to post a tweet right away without switching to tweetie.. but I'm all for an inline tweet (obviously ;)
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Inappropriate?Incorporating every single feature request and making them all user options/preferences is exactly what leads to bloated, junky software with no clear vision. If an app that's designed "on purpose" doesn't work for your usage pattern, maybe you need to look at another app.
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So in other words we should all sit down and shut up because we happen to have requests. If developers didn't want user requests, we wouldn't have sites like this one. If you don't like user requests, then keep on scrolling by or go to another website.
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What? I have no problem with user requests. I only have a problem when people get upset with developers for not agreeing with the requests, or when people think they're entitled to have all their requests fulfilled.
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Who's getting upset? People are making requests, which is to be expected. You're getting bent out of shape over that.
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Inappropriate?Bruce, you're totally right. I'm pleased to see atebits sticking to how Tweetie was originally conceived, and for what's it worth: I'm a big fan of the pop up window.
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I will be more fine with the pop-up window as soon as it remembers its previous screen position.
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Inappropriate?The only reason i use Tweetie currently is, that the freeware supports multiple twitter-accounts. Otherwise i like twitterific. Especially because auf the nice UI wich integrates the response-window. This is very nice IPhone-Like Style!
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