Growl integration
New Tweets show up in the Growl notification area.
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Note that Growl.framework is already bundled in the app ;). Coming really soon!
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Good to have the sender's ID at the top of the tweet, instead of just "New tweet". My suggestion to improve this still further: Just scrub the "New tweet from" bit altogether. The sender's ID by itself would be fine.
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Hmmm, the new Growl integration in 1.1 is very... odd. Growl titles aren't usernames (instead they are all titled "New Mention", etc.), and so far I just get a generic Tweetie icon in stead of the user icon.
The SIMBL workaround someone posted here worked much better (usernames as Growl notice titles, actual user icons), although I like the per-account notification settings in the official implementation.
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When you will add Growl support, please do it as nicely as the rest of the application is done:
- Avoid to fill the screen with Growl messages, for instance after a network interruption. If there are more than 2-3 Growl messages that need to be displayed at the same time, please group them into one saying for instance that there are 20 new tweets.
- Make that clicking on a Growl message pops-up Tweetie with the view scrolled to the appropriate message.
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I think it should be configurable. Like Growl notifications on: all tweets / mentions / DMs.
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Inappropriate?I think it should be configurable. Like Growl notifications on: all tweets / mentions / DMs.
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Inappropriate?Definite yes to configuration, preferably on a per-account basis
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Inappropriate?We really need this, and a way to choose which sort of notifications to show (but it would be in the Growl prefpane).
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Inappropriate?Yeah, Growl is definitely a must-have, along with reply/dm configurations.
I’m so pleased with Tweetie so far
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Inappropriate?Gotta agree with this, plus auto-refresh too (or else this wouldn't be possible) http://is.gd/tr11
EDIT: And a badge count too!
I’m hoping that this'd be implemented!
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It already does auto-refresh, doesn't it? It would be useful if you could configure how often it did though. -
Inappropriate?This is a deal breaker - you have to put it in
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Inappropriate?Note that Growl.framework is already bundled in the app ;). Coming really soon!
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I like that there's no notification. Keeps my day productive. Can you make an option to minimize, filter, or turn off notifications? -
@Henry - if there isn't a "stop talking to growl" option, then in the Growl preferences you can disable individual applications entirely. (for example, I use both last.fm and growltunes, and the last.fm notices are largely redundant.) -
good to know it's on the way soon. -
Inappropriate?When you say "per-account notification prefs" (on Digg), you mean that we could also disable the 'blue dot' notification and the glowing icon within Tweetie (for each account of course)?
It would be so nice. :)
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Inappropriate?I wouldn't mark this as "implemented" yet as it's not customizable. In fact, it doesn't even show up in the Growl applications list.
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It's not implemented yet, nor is it marked as such. The framework is simply included in the application. -
My mistake. I thought Get Satisfaction was showing the idea as implemented. Sorry! -
Inappropriate?Very important that you can control growl settings for multiple accounts. Also deciding which accounts display what: @replies, regular twitter feed, DMs, Search Results.
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Agreed, the fine-tuning is very important so one can color-code the Growl notices using Growl theme settings for priority. -
Inappropriate?Please make it so it doesn't clutter my screen too much... I think a small custom made pop up, with scroll-on-mouse-hover tweets or something would be better than a bunch of growl ballons, one for each tweet like Twitterrific... DestroyTwitter has it's own notification box but only shows a count of how many new and the lastest one...
I would like just to take a peek of the new tweets without leaving what I'm doing just to see them...
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Growl can handle things like that.. as long as the app developer takes them into account. I would always choose good growl implementation (which I can theme myself, and control myself) to anything built-in (like the crap adobe air apps always do.) -
Inappropriate?I would much rather prefer proper growl implementation then something like that. You can theme growl however you like to keep it out of the way, and unless the notifications are sticky it should never "clutter" your screen.
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Inappropriate?Yes... I think Tweetie really needs this!!! That is one MAIN feature it needs!! I use Growl with Twitterific and when Tweetie didn’t have it... I had no idea what to do. lol
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Inappropriate?For some accounts, I want to get all notifications via Growl. For others, I'd like to only get notifications for mentions and DM's. As configurable as you can make it would be very nice.
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Inappropriate?agree that this is killer (sorta liking it in Nambu) but needs to be customizable- per group, only DMs and mentions, selected users, something other than *everything* (which is what Nambu does which is why I'm only sorta liking that)
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Inappropriate?This is the 1 feature that still makes twitterific viable for me. I really NEED the growl support and I love the ideas in this thread.. customizability based on username (i.e. a customizable list in preferences or something) would make it FANTASTIC! and allow me to throw away twitterific for good x=)
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Inappropriate?Should be configurable on a per user basis. Like Twitter's ability to receive device updates for individual users. I want to be able to recieve Growl notifications for only certain people that I follow.
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Inappropriate?When you will add Growl support, please do it as nicely as the rest of the application is done:
- Avoid to fill the screen with Growl messages, for instance after a network interruption. If there are more than 2-3 Growl messages that need to be displayed at the same time, please group them into one saying for instance that there are 20 new tweets.
- Make that clicking on a Growl message pops-up Tweetie with the view scrolled to the appropriate message.
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Inappropriate?Just bumping here, but Growl support is one of the two things I'm really looking forward to :)
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Inappropriate?Personally, growl doesn't work well on my machines... not really sure why... but in any case, as long as it's not mandatory to use, i'm for it.
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Appreciate the constructive feedback. It's not operator error. -
To be fair, if you don't have Growl running, any application that would use Growl notifications has nothing to hook into, and therefore doesn't really do anything with them anyway. There are a lot of apps out there that will try to send Growl notifications if it's installed, but do nothing if it's not -- no user-config panel is really necessary in this case. -
Inappropriate?People are definitely not getting Tweetie right now because of the lack of growl notifications. My coworkers are not jumping on because they love growl notifications. I feel like you're losing valuable people here because of the lack of growl integration.
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Inappropriate?close to a deal-killer... love your app, really want this. Want it user-configgable. I'd use it only to alert me of D and R messages.
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Inappropriate?I would agree that it would be great to see this added sooner rather than later.
I've been forced to keep Twitterific in place *just* to provide Growl notifications, which is becoming a nuisance, as having both Tweetie and Twitterific running is starting to cause me to exceed my rate limit.
The only thing that I really think is necessary is an ability for Growl to distinguish between new tweets, DMs and @replies/mentions, which is all Twitterific does right now. Obviously, a per-account configuration would be useful for those who have multiple Twitter accounts as well.
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Inappropriate?I made a SIMBL plugin to enhance cool Tweetie for Mac until it integrates Growl by itself.
You can enjoy Tweetie with Growl right now!
http://niw.at/articles/2009/04/26/tem...
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Thanks! So far so good. For anyone looking to install, it only offers message & reply Growl notices (no DMs), but better than none at all. -
Okay! I updated this plugin, now it notify DMs! -
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Wow, very cool. And I wasn't complaining in my earlier comment, just giving a heads up to others. Great to see the update though, thanks again! -
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Hmmm, your SIMBL hack worked much better than the now official Growl support. Would love to see a new version that works with 1.1.1 :)
That said, I don't *actually* expect you to create it ;) -
Now I'm making new binary for Tweetie 1.1.x. Unfortunately, Tweetie 1.1.x is compiled as 32/64bit multi binary and on 64 bit mode, it does NOT load any SIMBL plugins. We have to tweak it to use my SIMBL plugin with Tweetie 1.1. I'll make a note for installation with new binary. stay tuned...! :) -
@Yoshimasa Niwa - very cool, interesting that the 1.1 version blocks SIMBL. Look forward to seeing what you come up with, thanks! -
Okay I update my article and release new plugin for Tweetie 1.1!
http://niw.at/articles/2009/04/26/tem...
It works fine only in 32 bit mode. You can change the mode from "Info" panel which you will get by "Get Info" menu item from clicking Tweetie icon with Ctrl button. -
Wow, thanks! Works great! And the 32/64 bit thing also fixed another issue I was having :) -
Will this plugin work with Tweetie 1.2? I like your Growl handling just the way it is, and don't want to risk losing it with the update. Especially because the rest of the features in 1.2 are very ho-hum to me. -
This plugin still works even on Tweetie 1.2, I tested a couple of hours ago. Tweetie 1.2 came back to 32 bit mode so that you can use it without any specific configuration. One thing, Tweetie 1.2 seems to show the tweeter's name and icon on the Growl notification without this plugin, the handling style of a set of tweets(TweetieHack trys to show up the first 5 tweets but Tweetie doesn't) and the way of displaying the icon are different though. -
Yes, this plugin still works even on Tweetie 1.2, I tested a couple of hours ago. Tweetie 1.2 came back to 32 bit mode so that you can use it without any specific configuration. One thing, Tweetie 1.2 seems to show the tweeter's name and icon on the Growl notification without this plugin, the handling style of a set of tweets(TweetieHack trys to show up the first 5 tweets but Tweetie doesn't) and the way of displaying the icon are different though. -
Cool, I will have to try with & without the TweetieHack plugin and see which I prefer. Thanks! -
Inappropriate?Perhaps rather than using Growl's provided display styles, you might want to consider designing the notifications in Tweetie's own style (i.e. metallic gradient background, speech bubble tail extending out to the user's icon) to provide a consistent and also much better look.
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Inappropriate?Can't say I agree with that...the beauty of Growl is that it provides a consistent notification model for all apps that use it. As a user, you always have the ability to customize the notification appearance and behavior, by app, within Growl.
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I think the previous comment was referring to Tweetie providing a unique Growl style, not a complete new notification system. That way, the user could decide which Growl style they wish to use, a custom Tweetie Growl style or one of the standard display styles. -
Inappropriate?Hmmm, the new Growl integration in 1.1 is very... odd. Growl titles aren't usernames (instead they are all titled "New Mention", etc.), and so far I just get a generic Tweetie icon in stead of the user icon.
The SIMBL workaround someone posted here worked much better (usernames as Growl notice titles, actual user icons), although I like the per-account notification settings in the official implementation.
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While I'm happy to see Growl integration added, I'm hoping that the next version tweaks the notifications a bit to make them more informative. In particular, I think it's *very* important that the Growl notifications include the use name rather than simply "New Tweet"
Further, I'm seeing user avatars show up for notifications from some users, but not all. I'm guessing this may be a bug at this point, since it's inconsistent behaviour. -
Correct on avatars. Some there, some ain't. -
I'm getting the same thing. Sometimes it says the users name, other times it just says new tweet in the growl notification. Very unhappy with this update. -
I am *only* seeing "New Tweet" etc., no usernames at all. Avatar icons a bit more consistent now, but all do not show. Still get a good percentage of generic Tweetie icons in the growl alerts.
Oddly, the SIMBL plugin that a user developed worked much better, although it doesn't work with 1.1 and thus the mutli-account notification prefs. I am sure this will be cleaned up soon. -
I also think the Growl notifications ought to be tweaked. No username accompanying tweets isn't helpful. "New tweet" isn't helpful at all and even kinda dumb.
I could do without the huge amount summary of tweets, but I remember that Twitterific also pukes out a load of tweets when it first starts.
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Inappropriate?I agree. I don't get the new tweets or new direct messages but random direct messages from the past with the growl integration. I also having issues with the badge. It just shows the red dot without any numbers.
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I get a whole slew of old notificaitons whenever I restart Tweetie, but it otherwise seems to behave fine as long as I leave it running. -
No idea what I'm doing wrong, but I'm not getting any (new or old) notifications. Growl works fine on every other supported app I have, including one that shows tweets. -
have you enabled the Growl notification in the "Notification Options" under accounts tab in the Tweetie setting? -
Inappropriate?I'm happy that Growl support has been added, but the old notifications on startup and lack of user details in DM/mention growls is bad.
Also, clicking on the growl notification should bring up Tweetie, preferably to the tweet or view in question. It doesn't.
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I agree that the mass notifications at startup is annoying, but I wonder if it's a limitation of the API. Twitterrific has the same behavior. -
Variation: I'd suggest clicking (or double-clicking?) on the notification should bring up a reply box ready for typing & sending. -
Inappropriate?taqumi - thanks a heap for the tip about the Notifications options. I totally missed that bit in the settings - probably because I only have one account, so didn't think there was anything in the accounts panel I needed to look at. Now slightly embarassed ...
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Inappropriate?Feature request: sticky notifications option - notifications stay on screen until dismissed by escape key or close with mouse (option key to close all)
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You can already do this in your Growl preferences. Simply go in to your Growl preference panel, choose Tweetie on the "Applications" tab and you can choose different notification preferences for tweets, mentions or DMs. -
Yes, true. But that means you have to configure the individual application settings that way. Growl's default is "Application decides", and many users prefer to just have all Growl prefs set to that. Just a consistency issue really. However it is easy enough to manually set it in Growl for now. -
Well then how about we take a poll. I hate sticky notifications.
It should ultimately be up to the user, don't force a choice because it's easier for you. -
Hopefully if this was implemented in Tweetie, it would be a choice. Seems unnecessary to me, at least, to reproduce functionality that already exists in Growl. The question makes me wonder, though, for curiosity's sake, whether any applications decide to make Growl sticky, only because I can't think of any. -
I know iChat / Chax will make them sticky if you're away or idle, as will last.fm, but the moment your back they lose their stick. -
Gee, I've really started a buzz here, haven't I! Unintentional, I assure you ;-) To clarify - I'm definitely talking about an optional setting. Very much an individual preference thing. For me personally sticky notifications work well for tweets because I have time to read (or at least skim) them without needing to make Tweetie the active app. Especially useful if I've been out for a bit. But that's me (and probably some other people). I'm definitely talking _choice_. I've been using an obscure little freeware app called Scalaris that does tweets this way through Growl, and it's very functional for me. Since I've settled on Tweetie as my main Twitter app, I'd just like to be able to have that functionality available to me so I'm not using multiple apps for the same thing. YMMV ... -
Inappropriate?Since Growl offers granular settings, I am not sure what the point is here...
I set my DMs & Mentions to sticky in the Growl prefs for Tweetie, regular tweets just fade away. Option-click on the close button closes all.
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Fair point - and must admit I hadn't realised just how granular (great word!). Maybe it's better to just to leave it as something you set in Growl? I'd suggest the Tweetie devs include fairly detailed Growl config instructions in the manual when they get around to that. -
No. They should put a link to growl's help file where it's already explained. -
No. They should put a link to growl's help file where it's already explained. -
If you are using growl, I don't think it's up to the Tweetie devs to explain how to use it properly. Perhaps a link to the Sys Prefs pane, but otherwise it's like adding the ability to email something from another program -- that other program doesn't need a manual on how to use the email program. -
Logically you guys are right. But if I was a dev wanting to serve my users I'd be thinking about the likely range of geekness I'm dealing with. Not all users are sufficiently geeked up to work everything out for themselves. I myself am a case in point. I'd consider myself an experienced intermediate macuser, and I've been using Growl with several apps for quite a while. And yet I've learnt a heap I didn't know from this thread. It's up to the Tweetie devs whether they do this or not, but IMO it would just be a smart - and helpful - move to cover all the bases. -
Inappropriate?Any chance we could have the Growl tiles actually display who the tweet/mention/DM is from? 'New x' isn't very useful - I know it's new, that's why I'm getting a Growl notification for it :P
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Inappropriate?For anyone who missed the comment above, there is a free 3rd party plugin workaround to the Growl issue: http://getsatisfaction.com/atebits/to... and it works great!
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Although it's a nice temporary solution, what would really be nice is an integrated one. This is also clear proof want some needed change in the product!
Personally, I don't mind waiting. However, I would like to hear something back from atebits, just so I don't feel so in-the-dark. -
Agreed, but the plugin/hack works exactly as I want, so I am glad for it in the meantime. -
Fair enough. But I too am looking forward to further development of the feature. I'm not quite geeky enough to feel confident using the plugin. -
Inappropriate?done and done.
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Not quite sure which bits are done? Titles on tiles...? -
You configure grown for how you want the titles to look. Whether or not you want replies, DM and timeline notifications. -
Inappropriate?Just upgraded to the new v1.2. Haven't received any new tweets yet, but I can say that unfortunately I still get zapped with notifications for "193 New Tweets", "6 Direct Messages" and "11 New Mentions" on launch.
But looking forward to the bits that have been improved. Keep it up
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You need to configure in growl for DM, mentions and timeline. -
You need to configure in growl for DM, mentions and timeline. -
No. I mean when Tweetie is first launched I get growl messages telling me some mega number of tweets etc, described as "new". So it seems to be counting my tweets going back several weeks. It is an improvement on v1.1, which actually popped up individual growl notifications for a gazillion old tweets on launch. -
It basically notifies on whatever Tweetie loads at launch, then proceeds normally afterwards. I think the client just doesn't save that state when it exits. I believe Twitterific for Mac behaves the same way. -
ok, thanks for that. On reflection I guess I can probably live with just 3 notifications I don't need. -
Inappropriate?Good to have the sender's ID at the top of the tweet, instead of just "New tweet". My suggestion to improve this still further: Just scrub the "New tweet from" bit altogether. The sender's ID by itself would be fine.
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Yes, definitely, this would make growl headers much smaller and would make it more bearable when many tweets come in at once.
There is no sense in having "New Tweet" as that is obvious by the name in the header. -
I suppose the theory might be that "New Tweet" would help to differentiate between a tweet, a mention, or a DM, but there are other ways to address this (I have Growl use different colors and notification styles for each of the three types).
If somebody wants that level of detail, its easy enough to configure Growl to provide it. For many others, a new tweet is a new tweet, regardless of whether it's a reply, mention, or DM. -
I disagree. Though I would be okay with "reply from" in the header of a mention, it is still very obvious when you see @yourname in the tweet.
Since it is likely that a person gets less replies than normal tweets, having something like "reply from username" wouldn't be too excessive. Having "New Tweet from username" at the beginning of every growl message fills up the screen much faster. -
I definitely think the "New Tweet" is superfluous. Just scrub it. The fact that we're getting a Growl notification indicates it's a new tweet. Just put the person's username. If it's a mention, it'll be obvious because...our Twitter username will be in there. -
Inappropriate?I would even like just to see the avatar, nothing else. I know these people and/or know what avator goes with whom.
Make it configurable - the more flexible the better.
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Configurable would be quite nice; though for me, an icon by itself is not good enough. Some of those whom I follow don't use an icon and some tweets are too ambiguous to define whom has said what. -
Inappropriate?Maybe I'm more 'visually cued' (if that's a word) or just weird ;) I even make connections to ambiguous ones - some people I follow just use one colour in their avatar.
If it's configurable (and set by default to verbose notifications, for instance) Tweetie can cater to everyone. -
Configurability would be excellent. It would also put tweetie ahead of any other app supporting growl (never seen one that would change header style)
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