Ping.fm integration! :)
Ping.fm integration like what is available in the iPhone app would be great!
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Atebits - this is all kinds of self-destructive craziness. You guys need to take a step back and remember that at one point you were trying to get more customers, not less. I don't know that your comments here are helping your cause.
I think we all understand what might happen if Steve Jobs was quoted saying:
"It always calls to mind a small child repeating the same thing ad nauseum. Essentially wasting the time of all the people who actually like you enough to follow you on multiple networks."
Wow. Just wow. You know what would happen. Stocks would fall, people would consider buying inferior products just to get away from the mean guy. Steve Ballmer, of all people, will say he'd never do that to you.
What's more likely is that Steve would never say that. The CEO of the decade is far more nimble with stuff like this. For example, the Bobble Rep application, which competes with ours (which we like and enjoy playing with here -- we just serve different markets), was rejected then approved. There's no shame in making the right decision even if it counters one you didn't think was wrong in the first place.
No matter what people pay, if it's an upgrade they expect more, not less. You cannot sell folks that Tweetie 2 is completely different from Tweetie 1. I can imagine how hard you worked on it and I'm sure it was a complete rewrite but customers don't care about that. They care about their wants and needs -- not just your priorities.
Our company publishes software for the iPhone as well (search for "Cohen Research Group") so we are familiar with trolls, evil competitors, and nit-picky email from Apple about small bugs. We're also familiar with making choices about upgrades based on customer feedback. We have upgrade our apps over a dozen times since launch. We get it. Sometimes all that together is a crap sandwich and is wearing on your patience.
But you need to keep your eye on the ball. Our primary business is in market research. One of our top clients is Hard Rock Cafe worldwide. They are in the process of gutting and renovating the cafe in Nashville. Let's say, for example, that they decided in the remodel to add a whole bunch of "wow" features -- they are (e.g. high-tech stuff) but fail to provide something fans of the cafe liked like a particular guitar from a particular artist.
Now, it might not seem like a lot to the folks who are spending millions as well as their time and effort on redesigning the cafe. But to those people who go there just to see that special thing, they're let down.
What happens when people are let down? They talk about it. By some estimates in the market research literature, you are 10 times more likely to tell someone you're upset about something than you are to tell someone about something you actually like. This is another reason why we remember, in the USA, negative campaign information than positive things about candidates. We're so used to hearing reasons for buying things and voting for things that if someone we trust comes to us with strongly negative stuff, we take it seriously.
I wonder how many people here are now telling people something like this:
"I used to use Tweetie but their developers were so dismissive of my concerns about a small thing that I cannot recommend it anymore. Download something else, for free."
It feeds into the mindset of abused consumers. We're all abused by the clerk who couldn't give a bleep about whether or not something that's not on the shelves is in the back and all that person needs to do is check it out. We get bad service at restaurants, auto repair shops, from Congress.
We have to fight, everyday, to counter that nagging feeling that people just want our money. Your behavior here on this reinforces that feeling and does not speak well to you keeping an eye on what's really important. Yes, great code is important. But the people you serve count more.
I hope you reconsider for the sake of your customers (including myself), but also for yourselves. You have great technologists. You need to become better, more attuned, business leaders. Do yourselves a favor. Take a step back, remember why you did this in the first place, and come back from the Thanksgiving break with the Ping.fm integration or a promise to add it back.
More importantly, however, is that you consider apologizing to the person who slammed here. Do it in public and in private. Your customers deserve more.
I’m sad for you.
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Any update on this? We've been through 2 releases now (1.1 and 1.2) and Tweetie for Mac still isn't as fully functional as Tweetie for iPhone.
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I'm glad to see this topic getting some attention! I "liked this idea" as soon as Tweetie was launched and I found out it wasn't included immediately. I hope it is added to the next release. It is sorely lacking and a big reason why I haven't gotten a license yet.
A HUGE feature for Ping.fm integration would be a checkbox in the new Tweet box to toggle whether you want it sent to Ping.fm or not. This would save you from having to go to preferences and uncheck Ping.fm every time like I had to do with Twhirl.
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I would absolutely love this. I also love a feature in Twhirl where it doesn't post messages that begin with @replies to Ping.fm. This way your Facebook, et al. isn't spammed with irrelevant content.
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?Oh yikes, let's not overreact too much, @ashponders has stepped in and done what a lot of us were asking for, some kind of update on things and he's done that. I still think it's legit for us to ask them to reconsider but let's not nail the Atebits for letting us know that this feature isn't a priority for most of their users. There's no need to insult him or the company.
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Inappropriate?This thread has descended; count me out.
For the record, Ping.fm's website + Tweetie for Twitter is really just fine (either on OS X or the iPhone). Be resourceful folks.
I’m disgusted with my fellow users
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Inappropriate?http://getsatisfaction.com/getsatisfa...
" ashponders replied 3 hours ago
Hi, Atebits would like to have it's site mothballed as well. "
This doesn't seem like the best approach...
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Inappropriate?@ashponders,
What's important is to just be honest. If the company made a hard cut decision to remove ping.fm integration in the iPhone version then it should be said or mentioned here, on your blog or anywhere that existing and potential customers traffic.
It's already hurting your company's image considering how wonky you've been on the topic. So why not cut it off at the knees and announce that Ping.fm integration will not be returning to tweetie or mention that it's at least being considered for future releases.
Each and every response you make now and here on out will not be taken lightly. So some kind of decision needs to be reached so that customers can either choose to stick around or move on to a different product.
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Inappropriate?Interesting thread. I have stayed out and just observed for the most part. The strangest thing is I received an e-mail saying ashponders posted:
"We received thousands upon thousands of requests for themes to be added back, and we have made them our priority for 2.2. By comparison we've received less than 200 requests for Ping.fm support."
The post with that comment has apparently been deleted.
I was amazed about the feedback about themes, so I decided to check out that thread to see how it went. it said "99 people like this idea ". http://getsatisfaction.com/atebits/to...
At the same time, "110 people like this idea" on this thread. Make of it what you will, but I think that statement speaks volumes on their position.
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Wow.
Just checked back in here, only to see that everything's gone pear-shaped.
Loren, you need to get in here quick. Ash, the person you've evidently hired to handle "customer service" is making a muddle of things, both directly and indirectly insulting your users, their feature requests, and their posting habits.
And then, when your users respond (entirely unsurprisingly) with outcry and indignation, he attempts to dodge responsibility by weakly asserting that his personal posts don't represent the company. (A hint: Anyone employed as a customer service representative in 2009 should understand that ANY comments they make in a forum like this can and will reasonably be taken as representative of their employers.)
Ash's handling of this - first near-total silence, then dismissiveness and insult, then irate defensiveness and needless self-victimization (e.g. "Feel free to file for a refund from Apple if you'd like. I'll even match their refund with a full 3 bucks of my own.") - has lead to the rapid devolution of what was a originally a relatively trivial complaint into a firestorm of acrimony between your company and your customers.
Realize too that users who care enough to post on a forum like Get Satisfaction are precious, as they are the early-adopters and influencers who will eagerly evangelize your product to countless others, both online and in person.
Now, thanks Ash's mishandling of this over the past two days (and the lack of response that preceded that) you've managed to turn many of those evangelists into enemies, who've loudly sworn off not only Tweetie, but ALL Atebits products, and who will now be recommending other Twitter clients based upon how they've been treated here.
There's still a chance to make things right, but it's going to take a major shift in how you (through your ill-chosen representative Ash) have elected to respond to this situation.
I remain hopeful that you will take this chance.
I do not however wish to remain an Atebits customer. Please refund my Tweetie 2 purchase. Funds can be sent to me via PayPal at sfslim@gmail.com.
I’m insulted, appalled
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Inappropriate?Wow. Just saw that Atebits has requested that Get Satisfaction remove their company from this service.
http://getsatisfaction.com/getsatisfa...
(Link thanks to @curiousstranger, above)
Really classy way to deal with this problem, guys. Yup, just flush it down the memory hole. Never happened, nothing to see here. Move along.
In response, Ash claims that they've been "moving over to a Tender based support system for a month now." Fine. That's certainly your prerogative (Although it is funny how the timing coincides with your first major customer pushback...)
Regardless, you should let this area stand as a record of how Atebits chooses to engage with their customers.
I’m laughing at your gall
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Might I point out that they did move to another support platform a month ago and we (I) just didn't notice. It's not like they weren't in the process of killing this platform. -
@Chris re: "We just didn't notice"
If Atebits had another preferred forum that they wished us to be aware of and use, they could easily, at any time, posted onto this thread (and the other open Get Satisfaction threads regarding their products) INFORMING us of the move, and asking that we shift the discussion over there.
Instead they just remained (mostly) silent, and then, once a shitstorm of negative sentiment erupted (in direct and understandable reaction to Ash's insult and dismissiveness), they file to have their GS site mothballed.
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Inappropriate?Clearly the head of this company doesn't care about his customers because he has yet to even make a statement.
Then you have his minion Ash who inflicts his opinion insulting customers because they way they want to engage their social networks.
Get a clue guys, you make a tool....not everyone is gonna use it how you saw it being used or how you intended. But thats not your job to worry about, your job is to build the best tool possible. Clearly by including Ping.fm support into your tools (iphone and desktop) will keep people buying and recommending your tool because its the best on the market.
You have lost focus, and as of today I am deleting all your tools from my iphones and macs. I will not install them again until I see in the release notes that Ping.fm support has been added.
You can also tell you that when people ask me what tool i recommend, yours will not be included.
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