Why RealPlayer? Why Windows only? Why do I have to pay for this?
Hi,
Why is the iPlayer became such big and bloated? Why does it run only on Windows machines, no Mac and Linux?
And why can I only access BBC content using proprietary technologies like RealPlayer instead of much more open standards like podcasts and plain mp3 files?
For that so much tax money why do I have to watch 30 sec. ads before video news clips on BBC News website?
Can you explain me why the taxpayer only get this kind of service for his money? Is it possible to *not* pay for the service?
Thanks!
Why is the iPlayer became such big and bloated? Why does it run only on Windows machines, no Mac and Linux?
And why can I only access BBC content using proprietary technologies like RealPlayer instead of much more open standards like podcasts and plain mp3 files?
For that so much tax money why do I have to watch 30 sec. ads before video news clips on BBC News website?
Can you explain me why the taxpayer only get this kind of service for his money? Is it possible to *not* pay for the service?
Thanks!
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Inappropriate?Hello Joffrey
Firstly, I should point out that this isn't an official BBC feedback mechanism: we use getsatisfaction.com for suggestions and bug reports for some BBC.co.uk websites.
You're welcome to use http://www.bbc.co.uk/feedback/ for your comments.
I can, however, tackle a few of the points you raise. For starters, BBC iPlayer streaming works on Windows, Mac and Linux. It has done for nearly 12 months. Assuming you're referring to the downloader, you may have seen recent announcements in the press and on bbc.co.uk about the imminent arrival of an Adobe AIR-based download solution which will work on Mac and Linux systems.
Regarding the BBC's use of RealPlayer, you should find on bbc.co.uk that the amount of Real Media audio/video content is decreasingly rapidly as most BBC sites start to use Flash instead. Indeed, you can listen live and listen again to national radio programming in BBC iPlayer without needing to install RealPlayer.
As for podcasts - that's my area - I'm pleased to confirm that all podcasts from the BBC (approaching 200 series) are freely available in the standard MP3 format.
You say that you're seeing 30 second adverts before BBC News clips. If you're in the UK, that doesn't sound right. If could be that our servers think you're outisde the UK. If you're still seeing this, have a read of this help page: http://faq.external.bbc.co.uk/questio...
Finally, you asked if it's possible not to pay the BBC licence fee. The answer is of course yes - if you do not watch or record any live TV programming *as it is being broadcast* by the BBC, then you do not need to pay for a licence.
Best wishes
Richard
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Inappropriate?Hi Richard,
Thank you for your kind answer.
As mp3 podcasts are your area, would you be kind enough to navigate me where can I download BBC Radio 1's Essential Mix mp3 podcasts, as I was unable to find them on your website.
>Finally, you asked if it's possible not to pay the BBC licence fee. The >answer is of course yes - if you do not watch or record any live TV >programming *as it is being broadcast* by the BBC, then you do not need >to pay for a licence.
Do you mean if I don't watch the BBC on my telly, or I don't watch the telly at all?
Cheers!
Joffrey
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?Hello again
There isn't a podcast for Radio 1's Essential Mix, I'm afraid. Sorry, I should have said that we can't make all programmes available to download, especially those featuring music, drama or readings, due to rights agreements. Where we have made podcasts available of music-based radio shows, we're only permitted to include short clips of music and can only allow the files to be downloaded in the UK.
If you have questions about the licence fee, try this site:
http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/informat...
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Inappropriate?Thanks again Richard.
Well, when I listen to your radios on the Internet, I always got to the RealPlayer versions, never Flash.
What does it mean # Dial-up modem version: ON/OFF?
Do you have, or plan to offer higher quality streams than 64k?
Joffrey
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Inappropriate?If you're in the UK, you should be able to listen again to radio shows from the national BBC radio networks in Flash.
The "Dial-up Modem version" switch allows you to choose to listen in Real Media, rather than Flash. It's for people on slower dial-up connections for whom the higher quality Flash streams (128k stereo, or 192k for Radio 3) wouldn't work.
Suggest you read James Cridland's posts on the Radio Labs blog for more details about future streaming plans:
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Inappropriate?I am outside of the UK. It seems like I can only listen to 64k and Real Audio?
In this case, no use of the dial up switch? -
Inappropriate?Indeed, that's correct.
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Inappropriate?In terms of the iPlayer, we've quietly delivered the Mac downloading tool (which also works on Linux).

It's a BBC iPlayer Labs product - and available in beta right now: I've scribbled together a quick and unofficial blog entry on how.
Once more, I'm afraid it's UK only. :( -
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