64-bit Boxee
It would be great if there was a 64-bit build of boxee available for Ubuntu
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i'll talk with yuvalt (our CTO) to see what is the delta we have to support 64bit
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We want Boxee, 64Bits need love too, enough said.
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It does seem a little bit silly that Boxee doesn't support x86_64, especially as there are user submitted patches to make it work.
Manually patching it is a pain (hell, even flash have a 64bit build now). Please add support for this soon.
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I agree with Andreas Setterlind and others. One should focus on making a 64 bit version for Linux since the 32 bit version does not work out of the box with 64 bit Ubuntu.
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Looking forward to the 64-bit version for Ubuntu
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Also like to see 64 bit Boxee for Windows 7 and Windows Vista.
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Inappropriate?Also will Boxee be 64-Bit by the release of Snow Leopard?
I’m snow, leopard, osx, 64bit
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What would be the benefit of a 64bit Boxee for Mac when Snow Leopard will run 32bit Boxee for Mac just fine without the users having to do anything?
...I can tell you that there would not be any speed advantage to a 64bit Boxee for Mac, perhaps that is something you did not know? -
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What would be the benefit of a 64bit Boxee for Windows when Windows 7 (and Vista x64) will run 32bit Boxee for Mac just fine without the users having to do anything?
...I can tell you that there would not be any speed advantage to a 64bit Boxee for Windows, perhaps that is something you did not know? -
Larger addressable memory and triple the registers, just like Linux. Sounds plenty advantageous to me. Plus, the current Boxee isn't supported on 64-bit Windows, and if it runs identically on both (which does not appear to be the case), they wouldn't need to make that explicit distinction. -
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Mabey even a power pc version for PS3 -
Inappropriate?i'll talk with yuvalt (our CTO) to see what is the delta we have to support 64bit
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Glad to hear it! Boxee should be moving towards a 64 bit version - especially with more people moving to Vista 64 bit and soon Windows 7 64 bit. -
@bmoura, I understand why 64bit Linux users want a native 64bit version of Boxee, but what would be the benefit of a 64bit Boxee for Windows when Windows 7 (and Vista x64) will run 32bit Boxee for Mac just fine without the users having to do anything?
...I can tell you that there would not be any speed advantage to a 64bit Boxee for Windows, perhaps that is something you did not know?
The reason 64-bit Linux users want a 64-bit Linux version of Boxee is that Boxee 32-bit for Linux does not run on 64-bit Linux out-of-the-box, ...instead they have to setup a chroot and install extra packages but still it does not work as well as a native 64-bit application, something that is not very user-friendly. Both Mac OS X and Windows handle 32-bit applications just fine out-of-the-box even on their 64-bit operating-systems without the user having to do anything, so 32-bit applications on 64-bit Mac OS X and Windows already is very user-friendly.
Useless if Boxee developers have to spend time on something that the users wont see any advantage of when they can spend time on other things such as new features, more content, or making Boxee more stable on all platforms. -
So 5 months later... What did he say? I understand that Linux is probably a small portion of your market right now, but a 64bit version would probably help that... :) I also think you could probably repackage the 32bit stuff so it would just install on 64bit without too much trouble. At least that would be a start. And isn't Leopard 64bit? How come Mac gets love?? -
@Andreas: I hope you have some experience running 32-bit Boxee on 64-bit Windows, your comments are entirely theoretical. *My* experience is that 32-bit Boxee on 64-bit Windows has some serious problems, possibly due to 32-bit dependencies. -
Inappropriate?I have it running very well on 64bit ubuntu, just by using getlibs only problem is that it's a bit tricky to update. Would love to use it natively.
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That's not the best solution as it is a way of accessing the 32 bit version (which can cause system problems down the road). It does not make it operate natively as a 64bit version. -
Inappropriate?Vista users would also like 64-bit, Don't feel it's just a linux and mac thing.
64bit is the future!
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What would be the benefit of a 64bit Boxee for Windows when Windows 7 (and Vista x64) will run 32bit Boxee for Mac just fine without the users having to do anything?
...I can tell you that there would not be any speed advantage to a 64bit Boxee for Windows, perhaps that is something you did not know?
The reason 64-bit Linux users want a 64-bit Linux version of Boxee is that Boxee 32-bit for Linux does not run on 64-bit Linux out-of-the-box, ...instead they have to setup a chroot and install extra packages but still it does not work as well as a native 64-bit application, something that is not very user-friendly. Both Mac OS X and Windows handle 32-bit applications just fine out-of-the-box even on their 64-bit operating-systems without the user having to do anything, so 32-bit applications on 64-bit Mac OS X and Windows already is very user-friendly.
Useless if Boxee developers have to spend time on something that the users wont see any advantage of when they can spend time on other things such as new features, more content, or making Boxee more stable on all platforms. -
Inappropriate?Is there already 64 bit support?
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Inappropriate?Please make a 64-bit package (true 64 OR 32 bit bins) so that I can install using a package manager. I've taken great pains to keep my install maintained by package managers alone. It's important to me to avoid custom installations. I'm more than capable, but they are a hassle to update, and accounting for them and their dependencies is tedious and irritating over time. I (and likely many others) would really appreciate more time spent to make products released as "ready for market" rather than "handyman special". Seriously, buttoning up items such as this would go a very long way to establishing stellar street cred for a player in the fairly young streaming content market.
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Inappropriate?I agree with Andreas Setterlind and others. One should focus on making a 64 bit version for Linux since the 32 bit version does not work out of the box with 64 bit Ubuntu.
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Inappropriate?As many others have already said, Ubuntu seems to be heading 64bit very quickly... I am a satisfied user... it would be very nice to see Boxee available in an native 64bit app asap.
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Inappropriate?It does seem a little bit silly that Boxee doesn't support x86_64, especially as there are user submitted patches to make it work.
Manually patching it is a pain (hell, even flash have a 64bit build now). Please add support for this soon.
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Inappropriate?We want Boxee, 64Bits need love too, enough said.
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Inappropriate?Also, I waisted my time trying two blog recipes, same results on both: blink
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Inappropriate?I have been trying to install boxee about once per month from the package manager on my 64bit ubuntu. I'm looking forward to the day when I don't get the error that there is no package for my architecture... I'd really like to try Boxee, but I only run 64 bit OSes and I don't want to put it on my Vista machine that already has Windows Media Center running quite nicely...
I’m anxious and sad at the same time.
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Inappropriate?Then I think you'll be waiting a while mobrien, just install getlibs and then find the 32bit version to install. It's not perfect but probably about as good as us 62 bit users can expect for a while.
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Inappropriate?Ahhch... I was afraid you (or someone else) would say that, Sam.
I could have Boxee on my Vista install, but it's only a temporary install and I try to spend as little time in Windows as possible. Unfortunately, my HD tuner card doesn't have any Linux drivers, so I wind up spending more time in Vista than I would like already.
Thanks for the response!
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Inappropriate?I'm now running xbmc on ubuntu 9.04 amd64, and it works quite well - the only non-working part is web-streaming tv channel support. Local movies (including vdpau for h264) and music work wonderfully well, very stable.
I hope the boxee and xbmc devs can work together to complete the support for 64-bit linux OS.
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Inappropriate?I was going to try boxee this morning but it doesn't have x86-64 support ... Oh well... I don't have windows.
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Inappropriate?I would love to see Boxee do a survey on their website to see what platform/architecture people are running so they can get a gague and understand that right now there are MORE people running 64bit Ubuntu than 32bit Ubuntu. It would be a good way to see what segment of their possible userbase they are leaving out.
It seems like I have been awaiting a 64bit release for over a year now. I had already checked into it a number of times before I even posted here my first time.
Please, do a survey to see how much of your target market (FOSS entertainment enthusiasts) you are missing because they use 64bit Ubuntu!
I’m sticking my tongue out!
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Inappropriate?Matt, there are very easy instructions in the forum to get Boxee to run on a 64-bit install. That's how I have Boxee installed. You do have to update manually instead of using the repositories.
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It will cause system issues down the road. Why do you thing repositories are specific about 32 bit and 64 bit packages. If others can support 64bit, so can Boxee. -
Inappropriate?I understand that there are manual instructions, and they probably aren't even that hard to execute, but I think *most* users won't want to manually unpack, compile or extract anything. Of course, I don't have any hard data on this, but I do work in user interfaces and user acceptance, and just based on a few things I have learned...
Sorry for being such a detractor. I just don't understand why anyone would create a product these days and make a 32 bit package, but not a 64bit package. It baffles me.
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Right on! Hardware has gone 64 Bit, buy new motherboards, CPU's, etc. They'll be 64 bit unless you specifically select older 32 bit. Windows has gone 64 bit, OS X 64 bit, Linux 64 bit. Whoever does the development, missed the mark big time! (In my opinion). Realistically though, I just don't understand (what looks like Boxee's) resistance to 64 bit? There are a lot of competitors and Boxee needs to get moving. Maybe (with regards to Boxee) I just don't know what the issues are. -
Inappropriate?Oh I totally agree that it is a lot to ask of average users that really want to run Boxee on a 64-bit platform. The manual install is for people who REALLY want to try Boxee in it's current state.
To the developers defense, this product is still in alpha and they had to do a major revision to get Hulu back.
There has been a vocal group of users that have been wanting 64-bit from the start and I'm hoping we get it sooner than later but for now I actually downgraded to 32-bit to not be hassled (It's a test box/media center anyhow) -
Inappropriate?Just spent a good portion of my morning trying to get Boxee to work... Then only to find out that my system isn't supported... That's a shame... Sounded like a GREAT IDEA.
Please support 64 bit
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Inappropriate?The only reason I'm running 32-bit Ubuntu on my HTPC is to support Boxee. On a machine with 8GB RAM, that stings.
I’m hopeful.
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Inappropriate?Planning on getting my old Boxee account cancelled. It's been months and no support for 64bit. Truly that is too bad, but I've moved on. I kind of feel bad as I really would have like to enjoy Boxee. I remember reading somewhere that Boxee had to remove Hulu. But with no 64bit, (after several months), there's no sense in me waiting any longer. For months we've been hearing, in essence, "it's coming", but there seems never to be any movement or releases. As I said, I do feel bad (and crappy) to have to say, but I'd like to know how to delete my account.
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Inappropriate?I'm not touching Boxee until it's native 64-bit on Ubuntu. No way am I going through the rigmarole they link to on the FAQ documents. Add to that the fact that last time I tried Boxee (on my Mac) the UI was annoying, there's no progress indicator when it scans content, and there was no way to manually tell it what was TV and what was movies (the auto-recognition is dubious at best), there just no point in forcing 32-bit boxee to run on 64-bit linux just to see if it doesn't suck as much as it did a few months ago.
It's aggravating. Everyone talks up Boxee like it's the shiznit (Cali Lewis on GeekBrief.tv, various tech blogs, etc.) but it's not 64-bit and it's taken so much control out of the hands of the user that it doesn't work properly half the time. XBMC on the other hand is so arcane, complex, and poorly-documented that it's impossible for any normal human being to use half its functionality.
I just wish Plex worked on Ubuntu. Then I could officially rubber-stamp it "problem solved."
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Inappropriate?I would love to have this work in 64-bit Ubuntu. I'd rather not having to squeeze a square peg into a round hole with the 32-bit hack. I'm using Ubuntu to make it easy on me and my family. If I wanted to hack/customize more, I could be using other variations of Linux.
A 64-bit version of Boxee would further help in my transition away from the world of WIndows.
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Inappropriate?I've installed Boxee on my 64-bit Windows 7 box and it runs flawlessly. I think they mean that it's only a 32-bit binary. There's really no reason 64-bit won't run most 32-bit applications since the processor architecture supports 32-bit instruction sets. The only problem you really run into is with drivers/virtual drivers and some legacy software. So give it a try on your 64-bit windows box and see what happens.
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This thread is about 64 Bit for LINUX (specifically Ubuntu) - Not Windows.
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Boxee 32 bit is working fine under Windows 7, 64 Bit RTM here as well. Should tide us over while we wait for Boxee for Windows 64 bit! :) -
Inappropriate?I also feel that this is one of the few factors keeping me from switching totally to Ubuntu. I really don't want to have to dual boot or run Windows only on my laptop. It would be incredible if we could at least have a bit of a status update on the project with regards to its 64-bit Linux manifestation. Is it totally dead, or just at a temporary roadblock?
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Inappropriate?I really miss a 64Bit version of Boxee. People who use Boxee is perhaps younger people and of course have the latest technology and also haw a 64Bit operating system.
So from a seller's point of view I do not understand it.
For all who do not have a 32Bit system installed use:
http://www.virtualbox.org/
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Inappropriate?64-bit is is a growth market. And open source operating systems (e.g. Ubuntu) are popular. It would be good for Boxee to get out ahead of this curve before someone else does.
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Inappropriate?I agree- I'm on 64 bit windows- Pretty much anything I click freezes the program and I've never gotten any video to start- only shoutcast and pandora, and pandora is too buggy to replace my current application.
I'm really excited about Boxee- but with seemingly no plans or progress on a version I can use, my enthusiasm is waning.
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Hmm, Boxee's current version for Windows is working fine here with Windows 7 RTM, 64 bit. I'd suggest filing a bug report with your Boxee.Log file over at Jira.Boxee.tv so the Boxee developers can review what's happening. -
Thanks- I should add here that I found a solution. Changing the compatibility mode to XP SP2 seemed to fix the video related crashes. -
Inappropriate?Bmoura, is windows 7 RTM a new secret version of ubuntu? I don't think so. So why are you and others posting "works fine for me" posts on a thread about 64bit ubuntu versions? If you have windoze, go tell someone who cares. I don't want to hear another thing from this thread unless it's "great news everyone! We have released a native 64-bit version of boxee for Linux. "
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I think people are mentioning windows in this thread because this thread also shows up in the boxee for windows section, and it's simply titled '64-bit boxee'. -
Inappropriate?Wes is correct. This topic is marked under the categories "Boxee for Mac", "Boxee for Windows" and "Boxee for Ubuntu". See right hand side of the screen.
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Well, someone added those after I commented originally about 5 months ago. This was originally an Ubuntu post (which you so dutifully expanded to include Vista and 7 with your comment 7 months ago). The "64-Bit Boxee" was the title of a post saying:
"It would be great if there was a 64-bit build of boxee available for Ubuntu"
So no, you and Wes are wrong and I still don't give a poop about anyone with Windows because if you can't get Boxee running on Windows in less than 3 seconds, you have no business touching a computer. This is not a bug tracker, it's an ideas board. This is where people propose features and other things that aren't currently developed. If you wanted a version for Windows, you should have posted a new thread instead of mingling your comments inside of another thread. If you were pointed here by the Boxee team for support, that's as ridiculous of not having a native 64-bit build for linux. -
Well, someone added those after I commented originally about 5 months ago. This was originally an Ubuntu post (which you so dutifully expanded to include Vista and 7 with your comment 7 months ago). The "64-Bit Boxee" was the title of a post saying:
"It would be great if there was a 64-bit build of boxee available for Ubuntu"
So no, you and Wes are wrong and I still don't give a poop about anyone with Windows because if you can't get Boxee running on Windows in less than 3 seconds, you have no business touching a computer. This is not a bug tracker, it's an ideas board. This is where people propose features and other things that aren't currently developed. If you wanted a version for Windows, you should have posted a new thread instead of mingling your comments inside of another thread. If you were pointed here by the Boxee team for support, that's as ridiculous of not having a native 64-bit build for linux. -
Inappropriate?I'm not sure about the "tags" but under "Products & Services", all 3 operating systems are still showing.
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Inappropriate?I don't know, but if you search this is the only suggestion that comes up for 64-bit support, so everyone's posting here.
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Inappropriate?Wow, lots of activity. If only Boxee would do something about it :( The original idea was for 64-bit Boxee on Ubuntu Linux. Other OS'es have decent interop with 32.
In fact, Boxee could provide 64-bit deb architecture without really porting to 64-bit! That is the way Chromium on Ubuntu 64-bit was for several months till the native 64-bit port was ready. That would really help those on 64-bit Ubuntu to install easily.
As a dev, it is not _that_ hard to do the port, unless they are depending on some proprietary pieces that are only available to them as 32-bit.
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Inappropriate?I'm wondering why we haven't seen a mention of Boxee for Snow Leopard here yet since the Mac icon is also showing over on the right... (!)
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Inappropriate?I Think Its All A Money Making Thing.Its Free Now But They Negotiate As We Speak.......I Hope Im Wrong But Im Getting Cynical These Days Of CONTROL
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Inappropriate?I just want to run boxee on my new 9.10 install. I CALL SHENANIGANS!
I’m not mad, just disappointed.
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Inappropriate?please provide ubuntu 64 packages
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Inappropriate?Would *really* like to install boxee on my new HTPC (Ubuntu 9.10), but no 64-bit repository. I'm not going to install it with schroot, I need something that is easy to setup and maintain.
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Inappropriate?I can't believe there is no 64 bit Boxee in Ubuntu. 64 bit is the future and most, if not all new PCs come with 64-bit processors today.
64-bit support is the smartest thing to do.
Thank's for listening.
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Inappropriate?I'd sure like to see Boxee64 for all platforms. There are a great many commenters that, no offense, don't know what they're talking about with respect to 32-bit interop on non-Linux systems.
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Inappropriate?> Larger addressable memory and triple the registers, just like Linux. Sounds plenty advantageous to me.
Only if you use/need it. Boxee probably doesn't. It's like enhancing Quicken/Gnucash to be able to handle figures in the billions. People like Bill Gates might appreciate that but most people will not take advantage of that functionality. -
I doubt that Boxee (or any of its dependencies, such as Flash or Mozilla or QuickTime, &c.) specifically codes register use. That's a compiler job. -
Inappropriate?The fact that Boxee probably doesn't is irrelevant. As time goes on 64-bit architecture will become the adopted standard. Playing higher definition video requires more memory, and so in a few years time we could see video that requires a much larger amount of memory to play than current standards. It's better to rewrite the code now than in 2 years time when Boxee could be much bigger and harder to manage than today.
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