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Fire eagle updates are they bi-directional?
Fire eagle updates are they bi-directional?
It appears that Brightkite updares Fireagle, but not visa versa.
Is this the intended mode of operation?
As Fire Eagle is designed to serve locations, I expected Fire Eagle to feed Brightkite.
It appears that Brightkite updares Fireagle, but not visa versa.
Is this the intended mode of operation?
As Fire Eagle is designed to serve locations, I expected Fire Eagle to feed Brightkite.
I’m unsure
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Inappropriate?Allan, currently it only goes from Brightkite --> FireEagle right now. The ability to get location from FireEagle is on our to do list.
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Similarly, you've got BrightKite -> Twitter, but what about Twitter -> BrightKite? I've got a GPS tool that lets me submit my location to Twitter, but BrightKite doesn't "see" my Twitter location... -
Joe, if you're talking about twitterrific, for some reason it's not posting my location to Twitter (but it can post tweets just fine). Also, you should make a separate thread for that separate issue if it does not already exist.
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Inappropriate?I think my use of Brightkite would really increase if it had this feature (or integration with the Navizon iPhone GPS tracking stuff, which I am feeding into Fire Eagle) -
Inappropriate?Thanks for the swift reply. Glad to hear the two way feed is on the list.
Having now found other threads on this topic, i have retagged this with fireeagle too. -
Inappropriate?Good to hear you're working on it....my Fire Eagle settings show that the connection with Brightkite is two way so at least I know that's a future feature. It'll be much easier once I can update Fire Eagle with Light Pole and it will automatically ping you guys! -
Inappropriate?Since Fireeagle updates my location automatically from my phone via Navizon, it would save me a lot of manual updates to go Fireeagle > Brightkite or Navizon > Britekite -
Inappropriate?Please count me as someone who is eagerly waiting for BriteKite to consume my location information from fire eagle
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Inappropriate?We are working with the FE team on a scalable way to consume their location information. It's fairly complicated for us, but we are working on it.
http://getsatisfaction.com/brightkite...
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Inappropriate?I hope Bright Kite gets this working soon. BK has a lot of promise, but until it accepts GPS data via FE, BK has basically no use for me.
I’m hopeful
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Likewise, FE is of no use for me. Fire Eagle still does not support complex privacy controls, but BrightKite does. For example, I can say that I am in 'private' mode, and that 'trusted' friends can see my full location, but Fire Eagle does not have flags like that, it only has trusted _services_, so I would have to use two different brightkite accounts, one public one that gets the 'filtered' information from Fire Eagle, and one private one that friends have access to and can see the full address (I don't think this is even possible unless I leave it in private mode all the time). There is no difference to Fire Eagle. I've blogged about it and Tom Coates is unsure if it's a good idea or not, which is silly. The ability to pass along privacy flags (in private mode or not, so 'trusted friends' features still work) would be awesome.
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Inappropriate?I need Fire Eagle and Brite Kite to communicate smoothly, correctly and in a timely manner (i.e. fast). Bidirectional and event driven. If I change on one site, I need the other to know quickly.
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?I agree. I already have the Navizon GPS on my Blackberry updating every 30 minutes, and sending it to FireEagle. So it's half a bridge now :)
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Where is support from reading from fireeagle? You print it on the settings screen, why not just use it?
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Inappropriate?Any update on this? Bidirectionality would make this service great, otherwise, as Ja Yen says, it's only half a bridge.
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Allan, we don't really have any updates at this time but we're hoping to hear from the FireEagle team soon about some push solutions they have been working on. So stay tuned! :)
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Inappropriate?My location information is in Fire Eagle. Let me know when Brightkite is able to read it and I'll start using Brightkite much more! Thanks. -
Inappropriate?Fire Eagle doesn't understand the idea of location based privacy. I can either tell Brightkite my full address (and brightkite, since it does have the ability to mark a location as "private", will robably censor it) via Fire Eagle, or I can tell Brightkite only my City name via Fire Eagle.
I covered how bad Fire Eagle is for privacy a few months ago, and the lack of respect people seem to have for their own privacy in this very thread is disturbing.
I’m sad
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You can tell Brightkite your city name via Fire Eagle? How??? That's what I want.
The people on this thread are a small sample of people who actually want to publish their location. It stands to reason that these particular people are less concerned with the privacy of their location than the average bear. :) -
Fire Eagle offers the options of publishing to services, but instead I use Brightkite because the iPhone app is remarkably good at publishing my location, and I like to post photos to locations. Fire Eagle gives the option of publishing data to other sites (you totally didn't read my blog post) but you cannot publish that data with a "privacy" flag, as Fire Eagle only supports one level of privacy: tell the site my full address, or don't. Not: tell the site my full address, and tell the site to only show trusted friends my full address, and my city name to everyone else.
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Thomas, I understand you don't like Fire Eagle but this thread is about having Fire Eagle update Brightkite locations. Thanks for alerting us to potential privacy problems with this but for the moment, on this page, we're more concerned with having this particular feature working.
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Thomas,
I understand you don't like Fire Eagle, but the point of this thread is that there are certain people who want to publish their Fire Eagle location to Brightkite.
I would like to use Brightkite directly also, but my phone app (mologogo) only has the option to publish my GPS location to Fire Eagle (not to Brightkite), and I don't have an iPhone.
I hope you understand the goal of everyone here is to use Brightkite... we just need a way for Fire Eagle to publish to Brightkite. If you know how to do that, let us know.
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Ah, I see what you mean. I don't use the privacy options at all. This is hardly the fault of the Fireeagle though. I'm not sure that a private flag would be the right solution. (fortunately It doesn't really matter what I think) Brightkite could implement this easily by only passing fireeagle the city and state (or the appropriate info based on country) to fireeagle when the city only option is set. That would accomplish the same thing.
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Not really, that then makes Fire Eagle useless. What if I want Brightkite to tell Fire Eagle that I'm at home, which has a privacy flag set, then Fire Eagle tells Dopplr that I'm at home and that's private, so Dopplr shows my trusted friends I'm at home, but others that I'm in my home city? I don't know how granular Dopplr's privacy features are (I don't use it), but I know it'd be useful.
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Wait, you are making all this noise over something you think someone would want, no one has requested and that by your own admission you wouldn't even be using? I am on Dopplr, haven't used it much, but it doesn't even have the privacy options you are talking about. This is thread is pretty much worthless. Any other readers, just move along.
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Ha ha ... this thread would not be useless if someone would answer the original question... how to make Fire Eagle post the location to Brightkite.
Fire Eagle -> Brightkite (not Brightkite -> Fire Eagle)
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Cadill: They already did, but in much the same way that Charles ignored the content of my blog post, you overlooked the little Employee post in this thread: http://getsatisfaction.com/brightkite...
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At least there is activity here!
Thomas, that employee post said they were "working on it" 3 months ago!
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Oh, I read your post. I understand what you want, I just don't agree with it. First, brightkite kite doesn't say anything about privacy affecting fireeagle. All it does is change what your friends and public can see and in how much detail they can see it. I don't think brightkite is doing anything wrong.
You basically want Fireeagle to duplicate Brightkite's functionality, but the side effect of that is that you are almost requiring every site that can update Fireeagle to implement it too, even when it doesn't make sense for them. Say I update fireeagle through Loki, where having a private setting doesn't make sense, you'd make them implement it just to support this API? It doesn't make sense.
Your suggestion "(imagine being able to say that the street was public, but which city it was in was private!)" makes no sense either. The idea to know where you are so sites can provide relevant information around that area. Just giving the street name is useless for this type of service.
Some of your comments in the blog don't make a lot of sense either. There isn't a privacy mode in Fireeagle at all, but you seem to suggest there is. Just a 'hide' and 'unhide' me option. Maybe brightkite should have a 'don't update fireeagle' option, then you can go in with fine grained control and update the various sites. Your example of Dopplr is pretty bad since it doesn't accept exact addresses either, just cities.
Fireeagle offers plenty of privacy controls when you set it up. You just want new feature that's a toggle to change how detailed a location is passed on to the client apps. That's a new feature request, but not a problem with fireeagle's current privacy controls. As a final comment I propose Brightkite add another option on their privacy settings for Fireeagle. Specify my exact location, city or don't update at all. -
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There's actually a pretty detailed comment on WHY they don't do fire eagle pulling (because Fire Eagle should use a push technique): http://getsatisfaction.com/brightkite...
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Cadill, unfortunately we don't have any updates in this area. We are waiting to hear from FE on some push solutions they have been working on. :)
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Inappropriate?You may have better luck sending a tweet @brightkite1 Comment Add a comment
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Good idea! I'm on it!
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Oh, I read your post. I understand what you want, I just don't agree with it. First, brightkite kite doesn't say anything about privacy affecting fireeagle. All it does is change what your friends and public can see and in how much detail they can see it. I don't think brightkite is doing anything wrong.
You basically want Fireeagle to duplicate Brightkite's functionality, but the side effect of that is that you are almost requiring every site that can update Fireeagle to implement it too, even when it doesn't make sense for them. Say I update fireeagle through Loki, where having a private setting doesn't make sense, you'd make them implement it just to support this API? It doesn't make sense.
The Twitter API has a lot of features that not every client uses. Just because a feature is there doesn't mean you have to use it. Does this page have any blink elements? Any marquees?
Your suggestion "(imagine being able to say that the street was public, but which city it was in was private!)" makes no sense either. The idea to know where you are so sites can provide relevant information around that area. Just giving the street name is useless for this type of service.
I meant street address, I didn't know that would confuse people. And a lot of residential streets are branches off main streets, short dead ends with few options as to where a person could be.
Some of your comments in the blog don't make a lot of sense either. There isn't a privacy mode in Fireeagle at all, but you seem to suggest there is. Just a 'hide' and 'unhide' me option. Maybe brightkite should have a 'don't update fireeagle' option, then you can go in with fine grained control and update the various sites. Your example of Dopplr is pretty bad since it doesn't accept exact addresses either, just cities.
Hide and unhide? Maybe you don't use Fire Eagle either:
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Fireeagle offers plenty of privacy controls when you set it up. You just want new feature that's a toggle to change how detailed a location is passed on to the client apps. That's a new feature request, but not a problem with fireeagle's current privacy controls. As a final comment I propose Brightkite add another option on their privacy settings for Fireeagle. Specify my exact location, city or don't update at all.
My new feature request has been noted, and I hope implemented.
I think location based stuff is cool beans, while a friend of mine thinks that someone's gonna use "number theory" like in the tv show Numb3rs to find out where he is based on where he isn't.
I will agree, though, on your final request: as Fire Eagle is insecure, Brightkite should be able to give it less data. I will make a new suggestion for that one right now, thanks for bringing it up. -
Inappropriate?I'm still waiting for two-way integration between Brightkite and Fire Eagle. Two way integration between Brightkite and Google Latitude would be awesome as well. I want updates to one service to update all three of them!
I’m hopeful
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