Design feedback needed on Notes feature.
Here are the mockups for the notes feature I'm currently working on. Please give me your feedback, questions and ideas. It's all appreciated. (click the image to zoom in)
Notice that the granularity is 1 note for the day and 1 note per activity per day. There aren't notes per hour or per bubble or anything like that. You can certainly type in times into the notes as I did in the mockup example text. Is this the right granularity?
Thanks,
Sean
Notice that the granularity is 1 note for the day and 1 note per activity per day. There aren't notes per hour or per bubble or anything like that. You can certainly type in times into the notes as I did in the mockup example text. Is this the right granularity?
Thanks,
Sean
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And the notes feature is now live. Thanks guys for all the great input. Let me know what's working and not working about it for you.
I know some folks wanted time specific notes but I think what we have now is a pretty good middle ground between simple enough and featureful enough. If you disagree, call me on it.
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Inappropriate?Yeah, I think that's right - notes per bubble or per hour would be overkill. It'd be perfect if there was some way to add one note per arbitrary length of contiguous bubbles (like, if you could draw a selection rectangle around 5 bubbles and notate that). But I can't see any way to do that in the UI, and furthermore, that's too obsessive; per day and per activity is just right.
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That would be slick, but you are right, it's tough to do in a Web app. like BubbleTimer. -
I'd really like to create a note for a chunk of bubbles or at a particular time stamp. I already have daily note taking in Joe's Goals but really miss being able to write quick notes tagged to a specific time like on paper. Per activity is not as important to me as I'm never going to have multiple notes at the same time for different categories. I'd like the notes to be outside of category constraints. Hopefully that made sense. :) -
j0dan,
That is interesting.... I hadn't thought about it that way. Since so few people multi-task BubbleTimer activities, maybe rather than per activity... per time is really the way to go. Let me try to work something up.
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Inappropriate?I think you nailed it exactly.
The "per day" note can describe things like ranges of time or overall effects, while the "per activity" can summarize what was actually done, if you opt to go that far with it -- I hope I don't, personally, because that's a bit too fiddly for my taste. I'd probably use the "per activity" note field to explain why temporary activities exist, or maybe to remind myself of daily goals. -
Thanks... the implementation is now underway. -
And it turns out Eric is going to do it. I haven't resorted to locking him in my basement again, but if he doesn't move on it soon I will.
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Indeed they will. -
Inappropriate?I'd like to see a notes section always visible on it's on line.
Just have little blocks of text aligned to the time it was entered for.
Thanks for listening!
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j0dan,
I remember your mockup that had the style of notes you are talking about. I'm still not certain of all the details of how that'd work from a user experience. You say: "aligned to the time it was entered for" which makes sense but how is a note entered for a specific time. What does the user do to make that happen?
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In the notes section, if hovered in an empty spot, a note icon could appear. Or the ability to drag a "line" between 2 points in time and then the note field would appear associated with that block. -
j0dan,
It's surely a good idea. I'm just not certain that it's not overkill for most users. Click and drag is also pretty tricky in a non-Flash and cross browser application like BubbleTimer. I wonder if the return on effort is really going to be there for most users. I think more people are anxious for categories, the next thing on the docket, than for this extra level of detail in notes.
Maybe down the road, if lots of folks want this extra level of note granularity.
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Inappropriate?Looks good to me - this is one of the features I really need to make using Bubbletimer a viable option (I'm using paper ETT at the mo.) I wonder how you would put this info into the export of the day - would there be a notes column next to the Activity column?
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Emily,
You mean the spreadsheet export or the print out?
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Inappropriate?I was talking about the spreadsheet. But whether it is the spreadsheet or print out, I'd like to see the notes included in it please.
BTW - I've only just discovered the print out, its excellent!!!! The print out is exactly what I've been looking for - the totals of activities table doesn't seem to be included in the spreadsheet but that is what I was most interested in. I think you are downplaying the printout but just having the little printer icon - i presumed that was just a print page button, had no idea it created a nicely laid out report like that.
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Emily,
The notes will be in both the spreadsheet and the printout.
Also good to know that you almost missed the printing goodness. You're not the first person to miss it. I actually get an occasional feature request asking for printing. I'll noodle on this some in my 15 minutes of quiet think time and try to come up with an answer. Or... you're a designer... feel free to suggest one.
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Well I went looking in My Account for something like the print out - I ended up in Export and was disappointed by the lack of a summary table in the excel tables. So maybe it could be linked to from there as well? -
Emily,
That's pretty logical. I'll add a link.
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Inappropriate?Thank you for continually upgrading the BubbleTimer experience! That in itself is so much fun! Kind of a surprise egg for grown-ups. ;-)
I think I like the basic idea behind the mock-up. If possible, I would also appreciate time-based notes, let's say per hour slot or something like that, because I tend to have some rather broad activity types I am using to collect everything that's not worth having a specific activity for (I have simplified my setup). With notes for time-ranges, I would have the option of capturing some helpful info to a time frame.
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Josh,
I'm still thinking through what an intuitive and uncluttered UI for that would be. In the meantime, you'll probably need to "roll your own" system with the activity notes.
Let's say you have a catch all activity called "Chores", but in your end of the week time review, you can never remember where all that time went. You could use an activity note like this:
Washed the dog, mailed a package.
Or instead, like this:
10-11- washed the dog
11-11:30 - mailed a package
Something like that.
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Inappropriate?And the notes feature is now live. Thanks guys for all the great input. Let me know what's working and not working about it for you.
I know some folks wanted time specific notes but I think what we have now is a pretty good middle ground between simple enough and featureful enough. If you disagree, call me on it.
Thanks,
Sean
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Inappropriate?IMO It's not useful without being able to see the notes all the time. Anyone else feel this way?
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j0dan,
You mean you want to see the text w/o needing to hover?
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Yes. I'd like all notes to always be visible. -
I respectfully disagree :). It would consume way too much screen real estate, especially when you can see the notes in a fraction of a second by just hovering over the icon. But well... that's just my opinion ;). -
Inappropriate?j0dan, the notes are essentially visible all the time. You simply have to hover over a respective row note to see what the note is.
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Inappropriate?@j0dan no, I don't need to see the notes all the time - I only add them for reference later, so that I see them on the Reports which I print at the end of each week.
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Inappropriate?No, I would neither like to see the icons of unused notes all the time nor the text of the notes w/o hovering. The way it is right now is beautiful!
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Inappropriate?j0dan,
It sounds like you might be in the minority wanting to see the text of your notes all the time. This is not a bad thing of course. Usually it just means you are using the feature in a different way than other people.
So let me know how you're using notes. What kind of information are you noting and why would it be handy to have it visible to you all the time? Maybe I can think of a different way to meet your need if I understood it more.
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Sean -
When I used the paper forms, I would typically use the notes section to mark when I had a coffee, or went for a run, to see how it impacted my productivity. Or to note how I got distracted when I bubbled a few under "wasting time".
I don't print or look at the weekly summaries so if I created a note, I would never see it again. I use BubbleTimer to reflect continuously on my day to keep myself accountable. It's open on it's own screen all day long so I can glance at it and be reminded how I'm doing. Having notes visible would be a great help.
Now I'm curious what others use the notes field for.
Thanks for listening to the minority. :) -
Hi j0rdan, it sounds to me like you might be better off sticking to the paper forms given how you describe your use of Bubbletimer. The only reason I've switched from paper is so that I can use the summaries/reports - to look back over time, as it were. For that daily accountability you talk about, I actually miss the paper Emergent Task Timer forms, I can't see a better format for that type of usage. -
Inappropriate?I don't actually use notes much yet, but when I do, it's just the "whole day" note. I like how the note itself changes graphics when there is text there -- it reminds me to hover over it to see what was written, in case it's important! Since I write so rarely, the written-on graphic stands out a lot for me. The per-activity notes also stand out a lot, since I use them so rarely too. But someone who uses notes more often would not have this effect.
There is also a bit of a time delay when hovering over a note, and that's a little awkward. Maybe there is some validity to having a note text preview visible up near the note icon... like the way Google does web search and email previews in light grey.
If that was done, I would suggest that the currently-hovered-over time-range indicator moves over to the right side of the date. (I think it would be more visible there anyways -- it seems my eye is moving around too much when trying to figure out where I'm hovering. Then again, I have a huge list of activities...)
IDEA! Maybe there could be something to hover over that makes ALL the notes visible! That could simplify reviewing them all. Would this maybe work for you, j0dan?
I’m cheerfully giving my thoughts.
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Interesting. Your idea at the end is pretty cool. j0dan? That useful to you. One place you could hover your mouse and all the notes are visible at once? Or you really need them all there all the time?
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Sean -
I'd still only use them if they were always visible. Right now I'm back to paper for notes.
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j0dan,
OK. I'll keep thinking about this and I'll let you know if I come up with any other ideas. Please do the same if you come up with something.
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Inappropriate?IDEA! The goals part of the window could, instead, be toggleable between a panel showing your goals and progress, and a panel showing your notes! Then there can be a way to see the per-activity notes all the time!
And then...
More panels could be brainstormed after the framework exists for them, each panel showing a different aspect of useful information about what the BubbleTimer data is saying. Graphs, heatmaps, and goal progress bars that look like tachometers, oh my! Even the Sharing page could be an option!
This needs a mockup... but no, typing is faster. Bear with me!
I imagine taking the current top grey bar, and compressing it to be the width of the section with the bubbles. To fill the space, a title bar for the side panel, with little arrows on either side of the title indicating that there are other panels. A small pull-down menu would pop down from the title (just like the calendar does from the date), containing a list of panels, plus the option to manage panels (reorganize panels, select default panel, add new panels, hide panels, etc.)
On the panels themselves, there could be a way to hide the panel, to make it not available on the pull-down menu nor through scrolling; only available through the 'manage panels' window. So it's still possible to keep things simple.
There could also be a view showing thumbnails of the most-used panels! That would be an interesting one to use as a default panel, but some may feel otherwise, and so it should be just an option like any other panel. But it could be the default for new accounts, perhaps, to flaunt the possibilities! :)
And and and! You could make it possible for people to make plugins that can be optionally installed! Imagine the possibilities... ! If you enabled others to build on this beautiful data set you have, and have a place to display it within BubbleTimer iitself, you'll get the customize-freaks begging to use (and create for!) your product!
I’m having an ideagasm.
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