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Impossible to click boxes on 1024x768 screen
In both Safari and Firefox, I'm having a problem with BubbleTimer when the window width is small enough to cause an overflow. When there is a horizontal scrollbar and I try to mouseover any box in the current time column, the layout shifts and I can't click on it. Moving the mouse causes rapid oscillation. This is a problem on my 1024x768 display.
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Inappropriate?Eric,
Interesting. I was unable to recreate this in either browser. I made both FF and Safari small enough to get horizontal / vertical or both scroll bars and I didn't have this issue.
I did see a very slight jump on FF when I would mouse over a bubble but it was tiny and didn't seem to affect anything. I didn't see even that on Safari.
Maybe there are other differences in our environments that can account for it. Given you are using Safari, I assume you are on a Mac. But that could be a bad assumption. Also, what version of FF and Safari are you using.
Would it be possible for you to use something like the free Jing app. to make a quick movie of the problem? It's pretty simple and fast, but it's a lot to ask of you. If it's too much of a pain, then don't do it. I understand.
http://www.jingproject.com/
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Sean
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Inappropriate?Eric,
That video was very informative (seemingly.....I might just be making assumptions here), in that it appeared, given you were able to decrease the font and no longer experience the issue, and that it only seemed to occur when the time range was being displayed, that it has to do with the displaying/hiding of the time range in the top left corner.
Why this is actually occurring, however, is not something I am sure of. We have made sure to test quite frequently to ensure there are no visible jumps in any of the displayed/hidden values. I will go through some testing and attempt to recreate it as well.
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Inappropriate?This is still happening very often on both of my machines. How can I help expedite the fix?1 Comment
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Eric,
I just went and tested again after some of our preliminary work, and while I am still unable to reproduce your exact case, I did discover a new instance of a jump that I will have to look into. Would you be so kind as to tell me all the details you can about browser type, version, etc, as well as operating system, version, etc. -
Inappropriate?Mac OS X 10.6
Safari 4.0.3
1280x800 display size
It seems to be related to the fact that the vertical scrollbar refuses to go away even after shrinking the text size wayyy down. -
Inappropriate?It may also be because some of my Activity names are long enough to wrap to a second line. Could that be the problem?2 Comments Add a comment
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Eric,
I'll have the other Eric (the 2 Eric's thing is confusing the heck out of me) check with long activity names. We'll let you know what we find.
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Eric,
We have still been unable to reproduce this. As seen here (http://skitch.com/tenpaiyomi/nn5t3/bu...) I created an exceptionally long named activity, and sized my resolution down to 1280x800. This is in Safari 4.0.3, on OS X 10.6.1.
Do you by chance have any other recommendations on how to possibly reproduce this?
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Inappropriate?Hmm. I'm happy to start noodling around with the Safari debug console if you can give me some pointers as to where to look. It happens when I resize the window on my larger screen down to force horizontal scrolling, as well. It definitely happens even without two-line descriptions. Zooming down the font fixes it mostly, but I still get a little twitching.1 Comment Add a comment
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Eric #1,
That's interesting... "zooming down the font". When you say that, do you mean to smaller than the base size? Or do you mean smaller than what you typically use, which is zoomed larger than the base size?
The reason I ask is that there are known twitching issues with running BubbleTimer with a zoomed font on every browser. It's really meant to be run at the normal font size only.
Let us know.
Also, I appreciate the offer to help us out, but I don't know that noodling around in Safari debug would be fruitful. When the browser "twitches" like it sometimes does, usually nothing is happening in the DOM or the Javascript or anything. It's just internal to the browser, as it is deciding it needs to re-render portions of the screen. I'm guessing that those twitches would be entirely transparent to anything you can see in Safari debug. You'd have to be noodling in the Webkit source code to really see it happening (and I don't recommend that!)
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Inappropriate?Eric #1,
Let's make sure we do EXACTLY understand the behavior your seeing. We've matched the browser version, screen resolution and activity name length, but maybe we aren't doing the same behaviors.
I assume it doesn't twitch while you just have the window open and aren't interacting with it. What do you do exactly when it twitches? Is there anything you do that's similar but doesn't cause a twitch? Ex:
If I mouse over an activity name that spans more than 1 line it twitches. When I mouse over a one line activity name it doesn't twitch.
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I noticed a bit of twitchiness (unable to recreate it now, so maybe you fixed it?) awhile back, but I fixed it for myself by just making sure my window was wide enough.
When it was happening, it seemed to be related to the bolding that happens in the time scale when hovering over a bubble that corresponds to an even hour (so, the numbers on the scale only, not the dots).
If Eric's issue is related to the one I saw (which may have been fixed enough that most of us don't see it anymore) maybe it has to do with the width of the columns and the width of the default font in Eric's browser. -
Inappropriate?It doesn't seem to be related to bolding, but I did notice that it has to do with mousing in/out of the bubble itself. When the pointer is inside a bubble, the char looks fine. When it's hovering over the blue area between bubbles in the current time period, then every single row expands. The oscillation is caused when that expansion makes my pointer end up inside a bubble, shrinking the rows back down again.
I'm using the default zoom level on Safari 4.0.3. -
Inappropriate?I take that back: it is related to the bolding of the red dot. If I hide that element [ $('12:15').hide() ], the problem disappears completely.2 Comments Add a comment
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Awesome! I wonder if this means we've solved it! :)
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Almost... I'm sure he doesn't want to always hide his red dots! But you're right, knowing the exact element causing the twitching means we are closer than ever to a solution.
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Inappropriate?Eric #1,
So, by "red dot" I assume you just mean any color dot. It's red if it happens to be the current time, black if not.
Can you tell me what your font is? (Preferences -> Appearance) I have the defaults for Safari 4.0.3 and mine is Times 16 and Courier 13.
Eric #2, you also have Times 16 and Courier 13?
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Inappropriate?Yep, Times 16 and Courier 13
By red dot I mean the dot (or numbers) at the top for the current block. It only happens on the column for the current time, which is always red at the top.
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