BAD computer out of the box - HELP please
My HELL with the XPS 1730 started when I had problems with my previous computers and instead of following the REFUND (that probably would not HAPPEN) route- I was talked into upgrading to the top of the line xps 1730 that would never have the problems of the inspiron 1705 (x2) or the vostro 1700 (1)- That would make it MAY 2008 I had power problems from the begining- they shipped out 4 powersupplies- said it was the operating system shipped out Hard drives and in July it was sent to depot with cracked screen. The Depot techs were supposed to check out the whole system including the power on the motherboard and the powersupply-
When I got it back the power problem was still there plus some- there was NO paper explaining exactly what the Depot techs did to my computer-
Needless to say, I had 3 motherboards, multiple video cards, HDs, and just about every part replaced at least twice. By October, I was demanding that dell replace my computer with one that I researched and felt would work- upgraded cpu with an agreement that if the computer needed a replacement video card- I would allow it to be replaced one time- then DELL would upgrade the video card to the Nvidia 8800 M GTX, It took over a month to get the computer sent to me.
I received the computer NOVEMBER 24th, 2008- with high hopes- this computer disapointed me also- multiple motherboards, multiple physX card-
Within 1 month the video card was being replaced and within 2 wks of that problem- The video card needed to be replaced- DELL reluctantly replaced the video card with upgraded one (thank goodness for written agreement with DELL REC)
Unfortunately- by Christmas the computer was having more problems and it was replaced in February and I received the replacement on March 4th, 2009.
Now the computer I received on March 4th, worked okay for about 1 1/2 wks then the graphics problems that were hit and miss (scrambled screen on restart- the screen was partially scrambled just after the windows icon comes on and just as the log on USER icons come up) became more noticeable- I called DELL- got some assistance - then was told to monitor to see if the problem returned- I emailed the tech to say that it was back- Did some further trouble shooting with Dell tech- Then within 2 days- on the way home from school my daughter takes the computer out of the backpack to log onto the internet for a meeting- the computer started smelling like it was burning- When I got home I immediately emailed the Tech and said I was concerned about the burning smell- He called back and said a new replacemnt would be sent. This was on March 31st. Computer was ordered April 1st, 2009.
I received this NEW replacement computer on April 11th,
When I got the computer the top box in the shipping box was open and at an
angle. The discs and powersupply and other external parts WERE out of
place. Also there was a third piece of carboard. It was just stuffed in
the box. I am not sure the purpose.
I opened took that MESS out of the box to get to the NEW computer. I took
the computer out of the box an proceeded to set it up.
I called Monday afternoon to DELL tech expecting to have someone help me- I was told that it looked like i need a replacement screen and possibly a replacemnt motherboard and video card.
I was livid!
then i was told that the tech was checking into a replacemnet computer as it could have been damaged in shipment.
then I was told that the tech could NOT help me as REC was handling the case.
I sent the following to the Dell tech that had been helping me Sunday afternoon-
I received my NEW computer yesterday late afternoon. I am quite frustrated
because the same video problem that happened with the 6th computer - is
occurring.
If I restart the computer, when it starts back up, just after the windows
emblem comes up and just as the logon icons come up- the screen is
SCRAMBLED- the WHOLE screen is scrambled!!!!
This computer is 1 day old and it is a piece of junk I have repeatedly
received
BLUE screen errors
Ageia PhysX ERROR
PhysX hardware found, but it did not reset and initialize
properly:0x00000030
I expect SOMETHING to be done IMMEDIATELY to RESOLVE this problem.
I then sent the following Sunday late afternoon to the Tech as well as my contact in REC who has been kind and helpful in the past-
I have reset my computer to factory settings.
I still get the PhysX Error
PhysX hardware found, but it did not reset and initialize
properly:0x00000030
I had major problems updating windows- after installing the updates and
needing to restart- the computer then said that the updates were not
configured correctly- and was uninstalling the updates.
The hard drive is running HOT- If you touch the harddrive cover- it is quite
hot.
I expect SOMETHING to be done!
This is what I sent Tuesday Night to DELL tech and my REC contact-
Basically, what I am asking is to look into the status of this case and
help solve the problem. I trust you and your judgement as you have helped
me in the past . I am using the case # [removed] for this replacement
computer as I do not have a case number for this problem. I spoke with Dell
Tech yesterday, but I was NOT given a case #. Today, DELL tech MIKE called
and said that REC was handling this case
Service Tag: [removed]
Computer XPS M 1730 received April 11th, 2009
Short version of Problem-
1. As I wrote to you earlier, (two emails sent Sunday April 12th,
2009), I have had problems with the physX driver- see email for specific
error-
A. To attempt to fix the error, I deleted the driver and
downloaded a fresh version from the Dellsupport.com website. This worked.
Three times.
2. As mentioned in the previous email, I am having the same scrambled
screen as I had on the previous computer. I spent all day yesterday
testing out the various drivers for the 8800 m GTX SLI video card. Using
the original video driver, 167.55 and original phys X driver- screen is
scrambled on startup- Screen scrambled with SLI engaged.
To eliminate hardware issue, I hooked up the computer to my 42in flat
screen monitor- I duplicated the settings and low and behold there was NO
SCRAMBLED screen even with SLI engaged. and with different drivers
installed.
Conclusion is that monitor on Laptop is defective. Possibly damaged in
shipping-
Question1: How to resolve this problem
David, you have been helping me since December. You have gone out of your
way to assist me in keeping a working computer. I trust you will do right
by me and resolve this problem. My whole goal is to to have a working
computer that will last 3 years and not need to be replaced. I will await
your advise/solution. I do have photographs of the scrambled screen as
well as the problems loading- ie the various shades of gray that took the
place of the scrambled screen.
The computer that this one replaced will be shipped back on WEDNESDAY this
week.
Please just keep me informed.
Thank you in advance,
[private contact information removed]
Additional information
I called Dell yesterday to get this resolved and was basically The DELL
tech told that possibly the video card, motherboard and monitor would need
to be replaced on a computer that is brand new. I was VERY upset. Then I
was told by the tech that he was checking to see if a replacement could be
sent because it could have been damaged in transit. Then I was told that
he could not help me because it was already being handled by REC. He said
Ryan had the case. The big problem is that I was not given a case number to
refer to.
I am asking for your help again.
I recieved the computer March 4th that you assisted in getting to me as a
replacement. However, that computer has had problems. The computer started
smelling like smoke and a replacement computer was ordered on April 1st. I
received the computer on April 11th.
The following information describes the state of the computer and my testing
of it to figure out what is wrong. I called yesterday because my testing
showed that I did all the testing I could do
Problems
1. PhysX driver- resolved by deleting and reinstalling driver
2. blue screen errors.
3. hard drive runs hot to touch
4. scrambled screens when restarting computer- just after
windows icon comes up and just before log on icons come on screen
5. Problem progressed to complete black screen, flashing to
several different colors of grey before the log on icons.
6. Problem progressed to extended time to startup the computer
between the time the green loading bar come up to the time that the windows
icon comes up and more flashing of grey screens before the log on screens-
7. problems updating windows-- Microsoft .NET framework 3.5
Service Pack 1 and .NET framwork 3.5 Family
update (KB951847) x86 seems to be the cause - when I did update Important
updates there were several updates for vista and I needed to restart the
computer - It came up with black screen with numbers and files like it was
loading or update but then when it was almost finished it stopped and it
came up and said-"the updates did not load correctly- reverting back - To
get around this i installed one update at a time starting with the regular
vista updates - everything loaded fine until the Microsoft .NET update. I
did not load it. This problem reappeared after resetting computer to
factory settings twice.
Testing steps
1. test video driver
2. monitor temperature
3. monitor if fan works
4. test monitor by hooking up computer to 42inch HDTV to
eliminate video card problems
5. reset computer to factory settings to see if these problems
were caused by something I installed.
( I reset to factory settings 3 times- each time same
problems occurred)
6. Called Dell Tech support - told to do basic hardware test fn
power- did not finish test because I was told that by the tech that the
problem was being handled by Ryan in REC -
7. Dell Tech Mike (could be Mark?)called to say that he is
owning this problem and REC is handling the problem. This tech did not
give me a case number
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I am so tired of being put off- I need either a REFUND or a REPLACEMENT-
HELP PLEASE-
When I got it back the power problem was still there plus some- there was NO paper explaining exactly what the Depot techs did to my computer-
Needless to say, I had 3 motherboards, multiple video cards, HDs, and just about every part replaced at least twice. By October, I was demanding that dell replace my computer with one that I researched and felt would work- upgraded cpu with an agreement that if the computer needed a replacement video card- I would allow it to be replaced one time- then DELL would upgrade the video card to the Nvidia 8800 M GTX, It took over a month to get the computer sent to me.
I received the computer NOVEMBER 24th, 2008- with high hopes- this computer disapointed me also- multiple motherboards, multiple physX card-
Within 1 month the video card was being replaced and within 2 wks of that problem- The video card needed to be replaced- DELL reluctantly replaced the video card with upgraded one (thank goodness for written agreement with DELL REC)
Unfortunately- by Christmas the computer was having more problems and it was replaced in February and I received the replacement on March 4th, 2009.
Now the computer I received on March 4th, worked okay for about 1 1/2 wks then the graphics problems that were hit and miss (scrambled screen on restart- the screen was partially scrambled just after the windows icon comes on and just as the log on USER icons come up) became more noticeable- I called DELL- got some assistance - then was told to monitor to see if the problem returned- I emailed the tech to say that it was back- Did some further trouble shooting with Dell tech- Then within 2 days- on the way home from school my daughter takes the computer out of the backpack to log onto the internet for a meeting- the computer started smelling like it was burning- When I got home I immediately emailed the Tech and said I was concerned about the burning smell- He called back and said a new replacemnt would be sent. This was on March 31st. Computer was ordered April 1st, 2009.
I received this NEW replacement computer on April 11th,
When I got the computer the top box in the shipping box was open and at an
angle. The discs and powersupply and other external parts WERE out of
place. Also there was a third piece of carboard. It was just stuffed in
the box. I am not sure the purpose.
I opened took that MESS out of the box to get to the NEW computer. I took
the computer out of the box an proceeded to set it up.
I called Monday afternoon to DELL tech expecting to have someone help me- I was told that it looked like i need a replacement screen and possibly a replacemnt motherboard and video card.
I was livid!
then i was told that the tech was checking into a replacemnet computer as it could have been damaged in shipment.
then I was told that the tech could NOT help me as REC was handling the case.
I sent the following to the Dell tech that had been helping me Sunday afternoon-
I received my NEW computer yesterday late afternoon. I am quite frustrated
because the same video problem that happened with the 6th computer - is
occurring.
If I restart the computer, when it starts back up, just after the windows
emblem comes up and just as the logon icons come up- the screen is
SCRAMBLED- the WHOLE screen is scrambled!!!!
This computer is 1 day old and it is a piece of junk I have repeatedly
received
BLUE screen errors
Ageia PhysX ERROR
PhysX hardware found, but it did not reset and initialize
properly:0x00000030
I expect SOMETHING to be done IMMEDIATELY to RESOLVE this problem.
I then sent the following Sunday late afternoon to the Tech as well as my contact in REC who has been kind and helpful in the past-
I have reset my computer to factory settings.
I still get the PhysX Error
PhysX hardware found, but it did not reset and initialize
properly:0x00000030
I had major problems updating windows- after installing the updates and
needing to restart- the computer then said that the updates were not
configured correctly- and was uninstalling the updates.
The hard drive is running HOT- If you touch the harddrive cover- it is quite
hot.
I expect SOMETHING to be done!
This is what I sent Tuesday Night to DELL tech and my REC contact-
Basically, what I am asking is to look into the status of this case and
help solve the problem. I trust you and your judgement as you have helped
me in the past . I am using the case # [removed] for this replacement
computer as I do not have a case number for this problem. I spoke with Dell
Tech yesterday, but I was NOT given a case #. Today, DELL tech MIKE called
and said that REC was handling this case
Service Tag: [removed]
Computer XPS M 1730 received April 11th, 2009
Short version of Problem-
1. As I wrote to you earlier, (two emails sent Sunday April 12th,
2009), I have had problems with the physX driver- see email for specific
error-
A. To attempt to fix the error, I deleted the driver and
downloaded a fresh version from the Dellsupport.com website. This worked.
Three times.
2. As mentioned in the previous email, I am having the same scrambled
screen as I had on the previous computer. I spent all day yesterday
testing out the various drivers for the 8800 m GTX SLI video card. Using
the original video driver, 167.55 and original phys X driver- screen is
scrambled on startup- Screen scrambled with SLI engaged.
To eliminate hardware issue, I hooked up the computer to my 42in flat
screen monitor- I duplicated the settings and low and behold there was NO
SCRAMBLED screen even with SLI engaged. and with different drivers
installed.
Conclusion is that monitor on Laptop is defective. Possibly damaged in
shipping-
Question1: How to resolve this problem
David, you have been helping me since December. You have gone out of your
way to assist me in keeping a working computer. I trust you will do right
by me and resolve this problem. My whole goal is to to have a working
computer that will last 3 years and not need to be replaced. I will await
your advise/solution. I do have photographs of the scrambled screen as
well as the problems loading- ie the various shades of gray that took the
place of the scrambled screen.
The computer that this one replaced will be shipped back on WEDNESDAY this
week.
Please just keep me informed.
Thank you in advance,
[private contact information removed]
Additional information
I called Dell yesterday to get this resolved and was basically The DELL
tech told that possibly the video card, motherboard and monitor would need
to be replaced on a computer that is brand new. I was VERY upset. Then I
was told by the tech that he was checking to see if a replacement could be
sent because it could have been damaged in transit. Then I was told that
he could not help me because it was already being handled by REC. He said
Ryan had the case. The big problem is that I was not given a case number to
refer to.
I am asking for your help again.
I recieved the computer March 4th that you assisted in getting to me as a
replacement. However, that computer has had problems. The computer started
smelling like smoke and a replacement computer was ordered on April 1st. I
received the computer on April 11th.
The following information describes the state of the computer and my testing
of it to figure out what is wrong. I called yesterday because my testing
showed that I did all the testing I could do
Problems
1. PhysX driver- resolved by deleting and reinstalling driver
2. blue screen errors.
3. hard drive runs hot to touch
4. scrambled screens when restarting computer- just after
windows icon comes up and just before log on icons come on screen
5. Problem progressed to complete black screen, flashing to
several different colors of grey before the log on icons.
6. Problem progressed to extended time to startup the computer
between the time the green loading bar come up to the time that the windows
icon comes up and more flashing of grey screens before the log on screens-
7. problems updating windows-- Microsoft .NET framework 3.5
Service Pack 1 and .NET framwork 3.5 Family
update (KB951847) x86 seems to be the cause - when I did update Important
updates there were several updates for vista and I needed to restart the
computer - It came up with black screen with numbers and files like it was
loading or update but then when it was almost finished it stopped and it
came up and said-"the updates did not load correctly- reverting back - To
get around this i installed one update at a time starting with the regular
vista updates - everything loaded fine until the Microsoft .NET update. I
did not load it. This problem reappeared after resetting computer to
factory settings twice.
Testing steps
1. test video driver
2. monitor temperature
3. monitor if fan works
4. test monitor by hooking up computer to 42inch HDTV to
eliminate video card problems
5. reset computer to factory settings to see if these problems
were caused by something I installed.
( I reset to factory settings 3 times- each time same
problems occurred)
6. Called Dell Tech support - told to do basic hardware test fn
power- did not finish test because I was told that by the tech that the
problem was being handled by Ryan in REC -
7. Dell Tech Mike (could be Mark?)called to say that he is
owning this problem and REC is handling the problem. This tech did not
give me a case number
__
I am so tired of being put off- I need either a REFUND or a REPLACEMENT-
HELP PLEASE-
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Inappropriate?Jeanette-
I've attempted to contact those who've been involved in your case to alert them that a problem still exists.
I also wanted to warn you that you've posted a lot of private information in a public website. Generally not a wise idea.
I'd recommend editing your post to remove any personally identifying data. -
Inappropriate?John,
could you please explain to me how to delete or edit this post- I do not see how.
thank you -
Inappropriate?Looks like you may have to request the site admin's help. You may need to report it.
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Inappropriate?Thank you I will contact get satifaction right now-
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Inappropriate?Of course!
If they nix the entire post, please repost and drop me a message! -
Inappropriate?I have written to the admin of the site and hopefully it will be taken care of shortly. I will let you know the status
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Inappropriate?thank you for pointing out my error- it has been taken care of- Personal information has been removed.
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Inappropriate?Not all of it, unfortunately. Case numbers/SVC Tags can be problematic as well... but at least they don't have your name anymore.
Have you been contacted by the REC agent yet? I've sent correspondence out to make doubly sure they're aware of what's going on. -
This comment was removed on 04/17/09.
see the change log -
Inappropriate?No REC agent has called me--
I will send out another email to the person that helped me with the personal information and ask him to remove that additional information also.
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Inappropriate?It is now 2pm and still no email or phone call from DELL- Not even from D. my contact in REC who has previously helped me-
The worst part is not being kept informed about what is going on.
I have been so patient- I just want the computer to work out of the box and NOT need to get fixed or replaced.
I’m frustrated but thankful that you have stepped up to help me
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Inappropriate?you should have bought a H P. They are well known for good customer service
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Inappropriate?I've spoken with the supervisor handling your case. Interestingly enough, he's an old friend of mine, and has been at Dell for years.
He's informed me that he should be contacting you today to get this situation resolved.
I've also asked that he keep me abreast of the situation. -
Inappropriate?Thank you for assisting me with this.
I await his call-
I’m thankful for your assistance
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this solves the problem
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this HAS not solved the problem- its just a step in the right direction -
Inappropriate?I need to go out for about an hour- I will be home at 115pm pacific time. and I have to back out about 230 and I will be back at 345pm.
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Inappropriate?John,
I wanted to let you know that I did get an email from D. in REC. Apparently he tried to call while i was out today and he is going to try to catch me on Monday
Yea!!! progress
Jeanette
I’m thankful that progress is being made.-
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Inappropriate?John,
David. from REC called and we agreed that I would send the computer to him directly and he is having his TOP technician look at what is going on. So I wait for a box and ship it to David and his team to get it tested out. hopefully they can find the root cause and we can get it fixed.
Jeanette
I’m thankful that progress is being made
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Inappropriate?update-
I shippped my computer to REC David yesterday. He should get it today- He is having his team test it out.
I am hopeful that he will find out what is wrong and I will soon have a working computer
I’m undecided
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Inappropriate?David from REC called this afternoon with a update. apparently my problem has been tested out. He put a fresh OScopy on the system and has tried various different video drivers. the problem seems to be between when computer loads windows and when windows loads video driver. There is no solution to the difficulty yet.
He has given 3 options for us because he does not know how long it will take to trouble shoot and fix the computer.
1. accept computer back and dont do anything
2. have David order new computer, test it out and make sure there are no problems and in the mean time- send computer back to me as the new computer and testing could take time
3. refund on purchase price of original computer
So what do I do? take the money and run or give David and his team and Dell the opportunity to make things right for me and get me the computer that will work.
The BIG question is... are there other XPS M 1730 owners who are having the same problem? -
Inappropriate?I've honestly never seen a problem like this one.
The choice is really up to you though. I've known David for several years, and you honestly couldn't be in better hands.
If I were in your shoes, I'd take option #2. Having a gifted technician like David going over a system before having it in your hands is a pretty amazing sale point. -
Inappropriate?John,
I wanted to thank you for assisting me in this effort to obtain a working computer. After careful thought, my husband and I chose option 2 with option 1 as a last resort if the computer David is ordering and testing out for me has the same or other problems. So I wait for the NEW computer tested out and set up by David. I have the current one to use in the mean time- praying no more problems will occur
Jeanette
I’m thankful that David and John have helped - we are awaiting new computer with NO problems
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Inappropriate?I'm glad everything is under control!
When I first started at Dell, David was one of my mentors. I didn't doubt you were in the best hands for a second.
Feel free to pop in here if you have any other concerns. -
Inappropriate?John,
It has now been about 4 1/2 months since receivin the tested computer from D- it was fine for a few months then it overheated-
here is the story now
May 2009 replacemnt #8 XPS 1730
Problems started with this computer Jun 2 2009- I resolved these myself.
Heatsink/Fan/keyboard, pwr supply replaced about September 14, 2009
two weeks later problems started again
Before the computer could go to the depot Dell took 10 days to fix the problem with my warranty
Sent computer to Depot two weeks ago got it back yesterday-
keyboard/motherboard/fan/video card replaced
Computer is overheating/ the fan is running loud and when it is on, the computer does not respond/ keyboard has two keys that are hanging on by thread and it hangs for nearly 5 minutes on start up (this is with SSDs)
I was on the phone literally from 12:25 to 430 yesterday tryin to get DELL to resolve this problem.
I was told that the computer needed
Keyboard/
Fan/
heatsink/
video card replaced.
but based on the burning smell it is not safe to use- so maybe a replacement- I went through the history and the tech Supervisor Mark finally understood where I was coming from.
At what point do you say enough is enough and demand a refund- I am at that point-
From what I understand Dell is not making the XPS 1730 system anymore (as of July 2009)
The Alienware M17 is the exchange model now for the XPS 1730
this computer was reviewed by cnet in july 2009 and received good reviews but many of the customer reviews are very bad.
Based on the agreement of May 1, 2009 with D, I asked for a refund.
I was told that the case has been escalated to D and he would call today
The G key just completely broke off.
I am waiting for the call and I hope that a quick resolution will be made.
Jeanette
I’m mad and I am not taking it anymore!!!!
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Inappropriate?Refund is being processed. I am satisfied that Dell has come through and honored its obligation. Thank you D in REC for your assistance. Thank you John for helping 6 months ago.
I will be very happy when I receive the refund.
I am sad because now I have to once again deal with a new computer system.
I’m confident that the refund is being processed
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