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How can we improve editing/organizing on Expono?

Here is a proposal of how editing and organization should work on Expono. It's close to how it works today, but we feel there is a need to simplify, and streamline the workflow. Please, post your comments and thoughts below.

Here is the original topic that spawned this "Official" thread about how we can make editing/organizing better http://support.expono.com/expono/topi...

=== EDITING/ORGANIZING WORKFLOW PROPOSAL ===

So basically, the workflow to edit/organise photos consists basically of:

1) Preparing a collection (let's call it a stack) of photos.

2) Enter Organize/Edit mode. This view displays a list of actions that can be performed on the stack.

Let's go into details on how one can prepare a stack.

HOW TO PREPARE A STACK:

1) A single photo can be added to the stack with one click. Either from the photo page, or from any thumbnail view.

2) An album can be added to the stack with one click. You can also jump directly in to an Edit/Organize mode from an album.

3) A search result can be added to the stack (limited per page).

4) Photos shared with you within the internal messaging system can be added to the stack.

What's missing?

When you have at least one photo in your stack. A link will be visible that can take you to the Edit/Organize mode.

Let's now go into details on how this Edit/Organize page should work.

HOW EDIT/ORGANIZE WORK:

1) The Edit/Organize page displays a toolbar with actions that can be performance on selected or all of the photos in the stack.

2) It should be possible to make select photos in a stack to be affected by a change. Currently photos are marked with an orange rectangle. Maybe we should introduce a checkbox in a corner to make it more visible that one can select/unselect photos?

There are couple UI issues regarding working on photos in a stack. Currently, you are allowed to add any photos to the stack which means you can add photos you don't have the right to edit/organize all metadata. For example, if you apply a title change to a set of 20 photos, only 15 might be affected on the change. How should the user get notified of this?

What's your thought's about the workflow? We almost have this today, we just need to improve upon it, streamline it. One issue we have is that a lot users don't know we have batch editing and organizing. They simplify haven't found the links from the album page.

We have to work on making this visible for all users. Some users manually facetag 100 people (generating 100 emails), instead of using the batch facetagging which is much faster an generate only 1 notification email.
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  • Kai Andresen
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    Great, I hope many more join in here!

    To the "prepare a collection to work with": remember that any single image is a one item stack. All operations valid for a stack are easily accessible for a single photo as well. This also means that I can do off hand work with single photos that I don't want to add to the bigger stack that I'm building as I pass by and notice something I want to fix before continuing to find more. Also, each album is already a stack on it's own, which I can work on like a stack, even without interfering with the "real" stack I am preparing.

    So, that is already tree stacks, which is not so bad for a start. I remember some inconsistency in what operations where accessible while editing the stack and editing all the photos in an album, but I can't recall what that was, and I can't find it anymore. Maybe it was fixed, without me noticing that it became right? Maybe I just misunderstood something once?

    So, possibly, only single photo editing seems and feels different from editing the photos in the stack or in an album. There are a lot of opportunities, but they are scattered all over a page geared towards presentation more than editing. Maybe a button to take me to the edit photos page for only that photo is a good start?

    To the editing:
    I don't know if a checkbox would benefit more people than it would annoy. On one hand it's more imediately recognized, which is a good thing. On the other hand, it's harder to hit and hence slower to work with. Maybe you could keep the current orange border on onClick, and add a checked/unchecked checkbox as an overlay?

    Also, when entering the edit photos page, initially no photos are selected, and the text explains that if no photos are selected, then all photos are considered selected. That must confuse some. Just decide which it is. If all are going to be considered selected, which I think is a good default, then mark each as selected. The text now only need to state that you click an image to un-select it. Provide "unselect all", and "toggle selection" -buttons.

    When applying an action to a collection of photos, and if some actions where not successfully applied to all photos, just list the photos and reasons in questions in the view. "Notice: some action(s) could not be performed on all images, these where: ... in a box below the receipt.
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  • Kai Andresen
    I almost forgot: To the question of how to make more users aware of the batch-editing facilities. If you removed all editing from the presentation page of each photo, and provide a link which takes the user to the edit photos page with the current photo selected, might solve this. It also might annoy a lot of people, I wouldn't know.

    Maybe a "tip of the moment box" with short introductions and link to a tutorial could get a prominent, albeit discrete, appeareance?
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