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Manually compare two movies
Could we put two titles in the search box so we can manually compare two movies?
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Just so you know, you can rank any matchup that has comments on it by visiting the Top Discussions page ("Discussions" in the navigation bar at the top of the page), clicking through to the Discussions page for any of the matchups (click the title or # of comments link under a matchup), and clicking "Rank This Matchup". This will let you rank that matchup immediately, and you're welcome to make your own comment on why you chose the way you did.
In the meantime, you'll notice there's a form to the URL in the address bar for these matchups:
www.flickchart.com / MovieID / vs / MovieID
So for example, Ghostbusters has a MovieID of 757A806672, and Back To The Future has a MovieID of F6AF86D9BB.
So to rank those two movies, you would use the link:
http://www.flickchart.com/757A806672/...
This is the easiest way to force a matchup between movies at the moment, but we have plans to make this easier than manually creating the URL to do this. It's in development, and it will make sense once you see the way we intend to let you create your own matchups.
Hope that makes sense, and helps those of you who are eager to create your own head-to-head matchups.
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Glenn,
We've looked at doing that before, and frankly I think it's a great idea.
We just added the ability to *almost* do what you want: if you share a matchup to FriendFeed, anyone who clicks on the link to go to Flickchart will get that exact matchup. But there's no easy way to get a particular matchup within the site.
Thanks for the request. We'll work on that.
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Inappropriate?Glenn,
We've looked at doing that before, and frankly I think it's a great idea.
We just added the ability to *almost* do what you want: if you share a matchup to FriendFeed, anyone who clicks on the link to go to Flickchart will get that exact matchup. But there's no easy way to get a particular matchup within the site.
Thanks for the request. We'll work on that.
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Inappropriate?I posted from an iPhone app earlier and I couldn't make the status official. So here it is. :)
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Inappropriate?Just so you know, you can rank any matchup that has comments on it by visiting the Top Discussions page ("Discussions" in the navigation bar at the top of the page), clicking through to the Discussions page for any of the matchups (click the title or # of comments link under a matchup), and clicking "Rank This Matchup". This will let you rank that matchup immediately, and you're welcome to make your own comment on why you chose the way you did.
In the meantime, you'll notice there's a form to the URL in the address bar for these matchups:
www.flickchart.com / MovieID / vs / MovieID
So for example, Ghostbusters has a MovieID of 757A806672, and Back To The Future has a MovieID of F6AF86D9BB.
So to rank those two movies, you would use the link:
http://www.flickchart.com/757A806672/...
This is the easiest way to force a matchup between movies at the moment, but we have plans to make this easier than manually creating the URL to do this. It's in development, and it will make sense once you see the way we intend to let you create your own matchups.
Hope that makes sense, and helps those of you who are eager to create your own head-to-head matchups.
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Inappropriate?This is an OK idea, but it is not the correct remedy for the biggest drawback of the flick chart UI ranking system.
The *second* biggest problem is that your favorite movies can be near the bottom of your list, and you'll have to wait through a lot of matchups to see it move up. Manual matchups would remedy this problem.
However, the *biggest* problem is that movies that you don't think are that good can be near the top of your list because they were presented to you early on, or by chance they never seem to face better movies. This takes hundreds if not thousands of clicks to remedy. The manual matchup will only move the loser down one-by-one. Still a process I might not want to suffer through.
What is really desirable is to be able to simply move a movie up or down to a specific spot. This saves hours of clicking, and in my opinion, does not go against the spirit of the site at all, because the idea is to come up with an overall list, and "flick-charting" is only a means to that end. Without this feature, the endless clicking becomes an end in itself, sadly.
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No, you're right. Specific matchups are more for sharing and discussing than to correct your list.
Being able to re-rank an individual movie, as we currently allow from the movie info page, helps with your second-biggest problem, but it's meant more as a way to:
a) launch an unranked movie into your chart at a good spot
b) to let you have immediate fun with a favorite movie that hasn't come up much yet
... again, not primarily as a list-fixer.
To the extent that you can use either of those to "solve" problems in your list, they're covering up the real problem, which is the way the current algorithm works. As you say, if you get a bad movie up really high, it can take a long time for it to "bubble" down as you rank better movies above it. The higher up it is to start with, the disproportionately longer it takes, since it has lower odds of being beaten directly or indirectly in a matchup.
The new algorithm keeps much better track of past rankings, and builds all your matchups into a much more complete body of knowledge, so that big shifts in the list will take a single click, rather than doing it a single movie at a time. I think you'll like it.
I'm pretty confident the new system will sublimate your need for shuffling stuff around. We won't implement that, because it bypasses the entire system of ranking that the site's set up to enable. It's meant not as just another equivalent way to move titles around a list, but to change the game a bit by:
a) making it a lot more fun than sitting down and poring over a list of names
b) stumbling upon movies you wouldn't have remembered to look up
c) finding movies you've never seen before that look interesting
d) making those hard choices at the top more personal and in focus
Enabling drag n' drop would skip past all of those goals in an instant and become like every other listmaking site out there. Maybe you hate the clicking, maybe you hate the matchups, in which case it's true, maybe Flickchart isn't for you.
But I hope our forthcoming changes will make all the difference. Stay tuned. -
Inappropriate?Hi Glen in another thread I discovered the re-rank and remove. That's really sufficient. And I do see them merits of, and enjoy, the 1 on 1 rankings. It's just frustrating when the list is "broken". But I'm set now with the 2 features I mention above, and look forward to algorithm improvements.
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