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Move a title back vs. moving a title up

I'm aware you're working on a new algorithm for deciding where a film falls in the list, so this suggestion may be moot, but I would like to have the ability to move a film back on a list vs. automatically having a film move up the list by winning a one-on-one battle. I may have a film placed at 100 that I might choose over a film placed in the top 20, but I don't necessarily want either film the in the top 20; I'd rather have them be 100 and 101.

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The company has this in progress.


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    Adam - Haha, glad you're enjoying it.

    I know what you're saying about the algorithm, since I thought the same thing plenty of times when I was originally thinking about it. Because the system is constantly refining your list, the two cases (20-21 vs. 100-101) are essentially equivalent to it; it doesn't know for a fact which of the two is more out of place. (It technically gains knowledge the more you rank so that it can make better statistical guesses, but the current algorithm is somewhat poor at that.) So you're right -- either case can be preferable, depending on circumstances.

    So the question then is how to decide which to do. It seems like a lot of technical complexity to burden the user with -- even if s/he decides not to do it each time, it's one of those things that might weigh on your mind (am I doing it right? should I move those down this time? it's close. wait, lemme check what else is down at 100). And we definitely don't want to drag down the ease of the experience - we want it to primarily be fun, with a good list being the by-product without having to think heavily about it.

    Granted, it can be said that a good list is not *currently* the by-product anyway (or that it takes way too long), but we're working on it. :P

    I think the new algorithm will work sufficiently quickly and well - with a lot more movement than you're seeing now - that you won't feel the need for manual intervention. The system should hopefully be taking care of it for you.

    I'd love to hear back from you once it's up (hopefully within a week or so).
     
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    Fantastic. Again, above all, I'm digging the ever-lovin' hell out of the site. I do agree w/ you about keeping the experience simple, especially since the purpose is not necessarily to build a list. I really only brought it up because I currently have Predator 2 in my top 15 due to a head-to-head w/ Barry Lyndon and I need to get them BOTH out of my top 20 ;P
    I'm anxious to see how the new algorithm will calculate and recognize past head-to-heads and such, so definitely looking forward to it when it's released. Best of luck, and thank you for ruining my social life.
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