Not all Safari bookmarks sync

I use the generic bookmarks more than the bar or menu for my large array of bookmarks in Safari and it may be a killer for me if they aren't synchronized. So PLEASE add the feature shortly!

I also use generic bookmarks mostly. I do not use menu and use bookmark bar for most often visited (10 or 12 bookmarks). For me its essential that generic bookmarks get synced. I hope you will add this feature asap. Thanks

In my case it just does integrate well using the button in the bar. I keep my bookmarks well organized in the folders, so finding any single item isn't hard at all. That may seem unusual, but it is my workflow.

I very rarely select bookmarks via menu. Keep them organized in folders. When I need them I just select the Bookmarks button in Safari (on the left) and select the bookmark folder and bookmark which I need. In Firefox I keep bookmark bar open on the left at all times.

Same here.
The core of Safari bookmarking is the division in folders/topics.
This is not a feature, this is EVERYTHING.

Thanks!

I use this section of Safari's bookmarks for sites I want to bookmark but don't necessarily visit often — research on a variety of topics, for instance. I don't really use the Bookmarks menu at all, and I use the Bookmarks Bar for those bookmarks I frequently access. As I reassess how frequently that happens, I will archive bookmarks (or collections of bookmarks) off the bar and into this All Bookmarks section.

I agree with the other posters. The bookmark Menu is not something I use all that often. The Bar and the Bookmarks collection are used far more often. I really place bookmarks in the Menu that I don't have a place or folder for in the Bookmarks collection view. It would be far more beneficial to sync the Bookmarks collection versus the Menu.

And me too : ) All my bookmarks are organized in a folders, and I always browse it by clicking the bookmarks button in the bar. And I never use the Bookmarks menu. So, Foxmarks for Safari is good, but can't work correctly to me (and others users) for the present. We'll waiting an update soon : ) Sorry for my english

Please change the way this works.... I was so pleased when I saw this Safari formarks, Im a little concerned about the way it may mess up my mobileme syncing too

Same as most here, I am using hundreds of bookmarks. To keep them arranged, I have them in the general Bookmarks section, in folders and subfolders to make them easy to find and navigate by keyboard. You _could_ still do keyboard navigation by having them in the "Menu" folder, but this would add an extra (annoying) click to mouse navigation, which I drop back to when I am tired. This is, in my opinion, a must have feature. And I bet the activity here is so low, because like most people so far I did not bother to come there to report it: it took almost 10 minutes to report this bug in your tool, logging in at Foxmarks (which I never do normally) and this forum! In any case, I really hope you do get this fixed! On the other hand, thanks for a great tool!!!!

Please add this feature as soon as possible. I'm afraid Foxmarks is a useless product for me unless it syncs all my Safari bookmarks, not just those in the Bookmarks Menu. Thanks :)

I'm in agreement with others. Without picking up "Bookmarks" your Foxmarks product is useless to me. Seems that many agree.

Thanks for your efforts in developing a complete Safari bookmarks syncing solution :)

A great big "me too" here on this. I have too many bookmarks to make navigating in a menu them practical, so I use the menubar for my favorites and ones that affect the current page (mainly short javascripts that do things like share it on facebook) and then I click on the open-book icon in the bar if I need to find one.

Most often auto-complete finds the bookmark I want while I'm typing.

I have about 10 bookmarks in the menu, mainly from before I figured out a better system.

So what happens with syncs? Does FoxMenu just leave those bookmarks alone or do they disappear?

(BTW, mimicking this Safari method of using bookmarks would make a great FireFox plugin, huh?)

The bookmarks added under Firefox show up under "Bookmarks" at the top of my mac desktop, but not from within the bookmarks button near the top-left of my Safari window. If I add a bookmark to Safari, it shows up from within the Safari bookmark icon, but not under the "Bookmarks" at the top of the desktop. This makes it unusable for my iPhone.

This is an important feature for me also. Until it was implemented, I was going to move all of my generic Bookmarks into the Bookmarks Menu section. However, that doesn't seem possible. They won't move.

Any ideas?

This isn't working for me. It will let me drag individual bookmarks from the folders into the Bookmarks Menu, but not the folders themselves and their contents. I have too much organization in place to lose that by moving everything out of their folders.

Any other ideas on how to move the entire Bookmarks folder(s) into the Bookmarks menu?

I figured it out. I was trying to drop the folders into the icon in the sidebar for "Bookmarks Menu". I hadn't tried highlighting the "Bookmarks Menu" and dragging the folders into the right side of the split Bookmarks screen.

I have way too many bookmarks to cram them all into the toolbar, and the menu is a pain. I need all of my bookmarks synched, or this is a no go. :(

As it stands FoxMarks is not all that useful. Most of the stuff I use is not in the Bookmark Bar. I guess I could import my Delicious bookmarks, but then what's the point?

And the same thing is happening here....

I'm using my bookmarks like this:
- The bookmarks toolbar are the core sites I use every day
- The bookmarks menu is a dump of what i still have to figure out
- The general bookmarks section is my "long term" library of bookmarks and very well sorted

It's a pretty annoying bug, but I'm sure you'll fix it

I've turned off the sync for now. Until FoxMarks is able to capture all my bookmarks, I don't see much use in letting it just run in the background since my Bookmark Bar doesn't really change. I look forward to the day when it will be able to sync all my bookmarks.

When you all refer to the Bookmarks Menu (in the Safari menu bar at the top of your screen), isn't that just the drop-down menu that lets you navigate into your main book mark collection to go to it instantly? It shows the top level which is what FoxMarks syncs (and what is in the left sidebar when you open up your entire bookmarks collection to edit or view), but you can still access the sub-folders from the drop-down menu by just guiding the cursor to the main folders with the black triangle (arrow) up to many levels deep within th drop-down menu (the ones Foxmarks currently does NOT backup). Everyone is referring to the Safari menu as if they are separate from the other bookmarks which is what is confusing me. The problem is that Foxmarks won't sync anything that is not in the top level, right? Is there something here I am missing?

On a side note, I wish FireFox would let you edit the bookmarks in another tab without using a separate Library window that is used for both History and Bookmarks. Also, I prefer editing the bookmark names or addresses right where it resides and not always by highlighting and then using the fields at the bottom of the Library screen. And finally, you can search the bookmarks in Firefox just as in Safari, but Firefox will just give the URL and not tell you where it found it (under what folder path) so you can look at or edit it. Anyone else notice these differences? Otherwise, Firefox is an excellent browser and I use both.

Steve,

Yes, that's right. XMarks syncs the menu and the toolbar, but not the other bookmarks, which don't show up in the Safari menu. This is because FireFox doesn't have another place to store bookmarks. Like Safari, FireFox shows the toolbar bookmarks in its menu.

Note that Safari also includes AddressBook URLs in its menu and FireFox doesn't. Those don't need to be synched by XMarks (I use Plaxo personally).

So do you mean that in the Firefox Library (similar to Safari's Bookmarks window) the difference is that even the top level folders can be viewed in the main pane (or side pane) whereas in Safari top level is always separate, appearing in the side bar only? I understand that, but people were saying you couldn't reach all the bookmarks using Safari's Bookmarks menu in the menu bar, and that is not true if you just keep popping open sub-folder windows (though not practical for deep folders).

In Safari, the Bookmarks menu doesn't show the bookmarks that are in the list that is revealed by clicking on the bookmark icon on the left of the menu bar or by choosing "Show all bookmarks" in the Bookmarks menu. It is these bookmarks that XMarks doesn't sync.

I'm sorry, but one of us is still missing something. Safari has a Bookmarks Bar, a Bookmarks Menu and a Bookmarks Collection. Both the Bookmarks Bar and Menu are drop down menus and you can keep selecting as many sub-folders as you wish from the drop downs by holding your click down (until you get to the one you want) if you wish to navigate to it immediately. The top level is all that you see at first until you go deeper within the Bookmarks Menu, but that is the same as with Firefox. Otherwise, you can use the Bookmarks Collection for all editing and better viewing and sorting. Are you talking about Windows versions maybe?

The only difference, as I said previously, is that in Safari's Bookmark Collections (comparable to Firefox's Library) you cannot move the top level bookmarks in the left pane to the right (main) pane

Read my last post again.

If you click on the Bookmarks button at the extreme left of the Bookmarks Bar, you will see all bookmarks organized into two big headings: Collections and Bookmarks. FireFox doesn't have anything corresponding to the latter.

In the main bookmarks window yes, the pane on the left shows Collections and Bookmarks. If you're saying Xmarks only syncs the top part (Collections) which includes Bookmarks Bar, Bookmarks Menu, History, Address Book, etc. the bottom part (Bookmarks) is technically in itself also part of the Bookmarks Menu which is in that top group.

Are you saying it only syncs the top level of the Bookmarks Menu, as I have been saying, and not all the folder levels within?

I think I'm being pretty clear about what's not synched:

Nothing in the Bookmarks section of the left pane of the main bookmarks window in Safari.

"Top level" implies a nested folder structure, and that has nothing to do with what I'm talking about. Safari just has a whole set of bookmarks which apparently have no obvious parallel in FireFox and so are not synched.

See the image I've attached, in which I've put a big red X over the unsynched part.

LOL, I see no image attached, but you're not obliged to reply if it's too taxing for you. Once again, the Bookmarks section you are referring to is the same headings that are under Bookmarks Menu in the top Collections section (and in the pull-down Bookmarks Menu in the menu bar itself). I don't know what part of that you don't get or what it is you're not seeing. But maybe someone else can chime in, thanks for all your help.

P.S. An image is attached to show exactly what I have been saying.

My bookmarks do NOT look like that. There is no such duplication. My Bookmarks Menu is totally distinct from the bookmarks in that Bookmarks section. Are yours synched up?

(Don't know what happened to my image the first time.)

Mine looked just like J's also. In order to have mine sync with Xmarks/Foxmarks like I needed, I had to drag each of the lower Bookmark folders into the upper Bookmarks Menu. They then disappeared from below.

See my above comment from 26 days ago:
"I figured it out. I was trying to drop the folders into the icon in the sidebar for "Bookmarks Menu". I hadn't tried highlighting the "Bookmarks Menu" and dragging the folders into the right side of the split Bookmarks screen."

But his moves the bookmarks into the menu, right? So it "solves" the problem by having you change the way you organize you rbookmarks.

No wonder we haven't been unable to understand each other. As far as I know, mine have always been that way. Maybe something happened a long time ago. Now I'm confused.

I know it's nothing new, so not sure how it's supposed to be. What is supposed to be under the Bookmarks Menu then? ...nothing???

Whatever you put there. It's just that a lot of us prefer not to use it. For me, it takes so long to go through the nested folders that I organize the the bookmarks into. Much quicker is to simply start typing into the address field or option-command-B and do a quick search.

I put my most used bookmarks in the bookmark bar.

If you DO use the Bookmarks Menu (and thus are able to access all levels of nested bookmarks & folders via the top Collections section as my pic shows, and from the Bookmarks Menu at the top of the screen) would Xmarks then sync them all or just top level or what?

Yeah, I just completely deleted the lower set in the Bookmarks category and used the set Foxmarks had been updating in the Collections category. So I just have the two main headings: Bookmarks Toolbar and Bookmarks Menu and they all get synced fine.

I'm not sure why someone was saying they couldn't do a search or somehow it was harder to have them there. I realized that the Bookmarks Menu is supposed to be just is what is on the Menu bar at the top of the screen and the Bookmarks Toolbar for the browser's toolbar, but what different does it make if you only use these two for everything even in the full bookmark organization view? What's the big advantage of having a third set below under Bookmarks, other than the top level of each folder stays on the left -- you still have to click open all sub-folders either way.

Also, I had that error notice with Safari for Mac where I got the message "Unable to get remote changeset". I found on here to stop Foxmarks in system prefs, delete the ~/Library/Foxmarks folder, restart Foxmarks and sync from server and it worked like a charm... two problems solved! ...for now.

is this something that is going to change or should people think about moving all our current folders into the bookmarks menu ?

I moved mine (for now anyway)... works like a charm!

this is still annoying me

seems this promised fix is never coming...

I still don't get the big deal. Just use the two sections in Collections and forget the bottom section in the complete Bookmarks Window. You can easily drag them over as many of us did - problem solved. As I said earlier:

"The Bookmarks Menu is supposed to be just what is on the Menu bar at the top of the screen and the Bookmarks Toolbar for the browser's toolbar, but what different does it make if you only use these two for everything even in the full bookmark organization view? What's the big advantage of having a third set below under Bookmarks, other than the top level of each folder stays on the left -- you still have to click open all sub-folders either way."

I understand that you say, but give that Safari implements 3 bookmarks and having spent much time to organize bookmarks with that model, I really need XMarks to support that. This I think is the make-or-break feature for many people who commented.

Well, applications are always changing to make things clearer and more logical. Is it really that difficult just to copy your bookmarks from one section to the other? I just did a copy/paste in a few seconds and my problem was resolved.

I still wish there was an "alias" option though, as I described above.

Well, I, too, think - like many of the people replying to this topic - there is a very special use for the bookmarks as OSX and Safari allows you to handle them; to rehearse, we have:

- BM [Tool]Bar
- BM Menu
- BM from Address Book
- BM for RSS feeds
- BM from Bonjour
- BM in "Bookmark Archive"

Of all this, XMarks _only_ works with the first two. My arguments why this is bad are:

I use bookmarks in the menu bar already for a purpose (see below). Also, I have hundreds of bookmarks I keep for reference and do not want to scramble my important bookmarks with stuff I keep for "later use maybe" only.

So, I use tons of book[mark]lets, which I keep separate: I use them once in a while, but not as often as my main bookmarks. So I have the main BMs in the toolbar, the booklets in the BM menu. I have all archives thematically sorted in folders and subfolders in this third section of bookmarks (which XMarks doesn't recognize). And I love this section because Safari makes these archived BMs VERY easy to BOTH file and find. Therefore, the toolbar and the menu are in use already and I am definitely not willing to change my whole workflow when using OSX/Safari because of XMarks, that would be ridiculous.

So, as long as XMarks does not support the OSX/Safari bookmark system, I consider XMarks for OSX/Safari broken, to be honest. And I also do not think I am asking too much (this would be the case if I wanted XMarks to sync Bonjour and Address Book BM, too - which, btw, I do use, also).

Me too.

With that logic though you might as well ask Xmarks to sync Bonjour and Address Book bookmarks too. We are talking about non-standard bookmarks features that only Safari utilizes. The argument that you are "used to having them that way" because that's how you got into the habit with Safari could be applied here as well.

I still see nothing wrong with having one all-encompassing Bookmarks Menu section (with all bookmarks; and no, they don't all have to be of equal importance or accessed with equal frequency by any means) and then the Bookmarks Toolbar for all items you access regularly, but is still also contained within the total bookmarks section. The key here is that you only have to update one section so that the Bookmarks Toolbar is just aliases to bookmarks or bookmarks folders already contained in the Bookmarks Menu, as I mentioned earlier.

I am assuming you could make a folder in the Bookmarks menu and your folders inside that - that would be my favored workaround as I don't want a massive list in my bookmarks menu

Sure, that's another good idea. If you think for a minute and are open-minded there's a lot of possibilities! : )P