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Web Discovery options too CPU intensive
Xmarks 3.10, Firefox 3.0.11, PCLinuxOS 2009; Xmarks is set to NOT store password (previously posted), and is set for 'synch on shutdown' and also set for 'Automatic synch'.
The 'suggested tags' option when I bookmark a page stalls Firefox momentarily every time I attempt to bookmark a site. No errors get displayed, just stalling. The stall ends in a second (maybe 2 at worst), exactly as the new tags are displayed in the Firefox bookmark popup.
I have now disabled all discovery to regain performance.
I feel that this is using too much CPU (I have a 3.0 GHz Celeron D and 1 Gig ram, not otherwise prone to freezing or stalling). The Firefox tagging features are somewhat useful, but not at this price.
Please verify that all "Bookmark-powered Web Discovery" tools do not commandeer my CPU. In fact, commandeering my CPU for any reason is ALWAYS a no-no.
FYI: I tend to add as many tags as I wish to a given bookmark - I want rich cross indexing when later I call up a tag. That means, for example, if I bookmark an online distributor such as Best Buy, I'd tag them with almost every major category of item they offer, and that bookmark could get more than 50 tags! That way, if I call for tags for 'MP3 player', I'll get listings for GPS devices that play MP3s and also cellphones that play MP3s, because I took the time to tag the GPS page with 'MP3 player' and MP3 compatible cellphone links can be found as well. If tags are slowing your Xmarks, get ready for people that prefer intelligent tagging such as I prefer to add.
The 'suggested tags' option when I bookmark a page stalls Firefox momentarily every time I attempt to bookmark a site. No errors get displayed, just stalling. The stall ends in a second (maybe 2 at worst), exactly as the new tags are displayed in the Firefox bookmark popup.
I have now disabled all discovery to regain performance.
I feel that this is using too much CPU (I have a 3.0 GHz Celeron D and 1 Gig ram, not otherwise prone to freezing or stalling). The Firefox tagging features are somewhat useful, but not at this price.
Please verify that all "Bookmark-powered Web Discovery" tools do not commandeer my CPU. In fact, commandeering my CPU for any reason is ALWAYS a no-no.
FYI: I tend to add as many tags as I wish to a given bookmark - I want rich cross indexing when later I call up a tag. That means, for example, if I bookmark an online distributor such as Best Buy, I'd tag them with almost every major category of item they offer, and that bookmark could get more than 50 tags! That way, if I call for tags for 'MP3 player', I'll get listings for GPS devices that play MP3s and also cellphones that play MP3s, because I took the time to tag the GPS page with 'MP3 player' and MP3 compatible cellphone links can be found as well. If tags are slowing your Xmarks, get ready for people that prefer intelligent tagging such as I prefer to add.
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Inappropriate?Thanks for bringing this up! We haven't had much luck replicating this problem on our end--to confirm, you're seeing CPU utilization increase during the time that the suggested tags are loading? Some lag is expected as the extension contacts the Xmarks server for more information, but there's very little CPU involved in processing the request, so I'm wondering if maybe you're just seeing the spinning icon, and CPU utilization is actually okay at that point.
It's also somewhat possible that you've used up all available RAM and are starting to swap to disk, which can slow things down for you as well--do you have much free memory available when running regularly?2 Comments
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Inappropriate?Your right; everything comes with a price. It never dawned on me that tagging would effect CPU utilization that much, but then I don't find the need to tag that much. One tag can open multiple web sites too and that can cause problems too in ole' Firefox on occasion. But I've never had the problem with the problem you describe and the only major differences between our systems is OS. I use XP Pro so I'm assuming that your OS put much less strain on the CPU.
However, I wonder if Eric isn't right, but perhaps for a different reason. I'm wondering how many processes you allow to run when you start of restart your system and do you use dual booting? You stated that you have no freezing or slow downs in the past, but if you have enough things running in the background just a little more may make a big difference. I'm just wondering.
I’m curious
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jeck: "I have now disabled all discovery to regain performance. "
Dual booting is not "run two operating systems at the same time", dual booting is "select which one OS of many possible installed OSs that you wish to boot and then run what you selected". Emphasis on one OS. Kinda like which light bulb can you screw into one socket - green, blue, compact fluorescent replacement, frosted, clear, 40 watts, 150 watts, par 30 flood... just one bulb at a time per socket. -
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Inappropriate?Well, after posting some comments, I though that maybe this was related to my assymetric DSL service being slow on the upload side, but the Xmarks discovery portion is mostly a download to a client side process on my machine, download is not upload. In any event, I initially deleted my earlier comments because I thought DSL was the issue, then I realized how the assymetric DSL was not the issue. Goodness, how rusty I've become.
After I disable all discovery, the problem is gone.
I’m undecided
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Inappropriate?mmmmna, a comment of yours in another thread clicked off a lightbulb over my head when I read it--part of the suggested tags feature is sorting the suggested tags so that the more popular tags are displayed first. This sorting incorporates information from your local tag repository, which means it's loading the entirety of your tags every time you add a bookmark.
You pointed out that you have an incredibly large number of tags, and I realized this would definitely cause the system slowdown you mentioned. Thanks for providing that info to allow that epiphany!
Right now disabling Suggested Tags is your only option to avoid that extra load, but we'll try to include an update in a future version that allows sorting of those tags to be disabled so that it doesn't load up all your tag data, but still allows suggested tags to be displayed (oh the irony that the biggest users of tags would have the worst experience with the Suggested Tags feature!).
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Inappropriate?Who sorts the bookmark tags - you or Firefox? Maybe someone needs a different sorting algorithm?
Considering that tags could be saved as already sorted when Firefox exits, then each new launch of a Firefox session should be sorted in the beginning and new bookmark tags are added at the end of the tag list. According to http://www.sorting-algorithms.com/ , that is an 'already nearly sorted' initial state for the sorting algorithm and that situation all but screams using the insertion sort algorithm. Run some tests on the site I linked.....
I’m amused
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Inappropriate?I have a similar problem. Firefox was going slow and using way too much CPU. I tried disabling each addon individually unitl i found disabling xmarks fixed it. however the problem is the same after disabling all web discovery options and automatic syncing. I guess I have to live without it for now
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Inappropriate?I'm going to mark this as solved but really I'm just abandoning it. Tags aren't going to go away, and there are bigger fish I want to fry.
I’m frustrated, sad
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I complained in another post about poor Xmarks performance. I later discovered that disabling all web discovery options got my performance back. So I have this problem too. Its worked-around. not solved.
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Inappropriate?No one seems to have mentioned it in this thread, so...
There was a bug in Firefox 3.0.x that caused access to tags perform extremely slowly -- this could cause noticeable delays in both sync and when opening the bookmark add/edit dialog.
The bug has been fixed in Firefox 3.5, so if you're seeing this problem with versions of Firefox prior to 3.5, please upgrade. -
Inappropriate?I don't use tags, so I'm not convinced. I won't be upgrading to FF 3.5 for quite some time. (too much getting burned on updates lately. I'm rebelling).
But thanks for the reply. disabling Web Discovery options is fine for me. I don't use them.
I’m indifferent
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