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Design issues with ask/share/report/praise/reply and login requirement.
Howdy folks,
We are getting killed by our customers on the post and reply box and the login requirement, and what I'd consider to be a design issue that's causing our customers data loss.
We have two groups of customers, one for a public site, where we don't have the concept of an account for the site (we aren't even collecting an email address anymore, except for certain functions) - and a set of internal customers that do have accounts. Those internal customers have an OpenID enabled account - and we encourage them to use their "eXtension" provided OpenID for third-parties, including Get Satisfaction.
Both sets of customers - but particularly the internal set with the OpenID's are getting frustrated when they go to post a new topic (or reply to an existing one) - enter all of the information, and then use the OpenID login, only to lose everything they entered because of the OpenID round-trip/redirect requirements.
It's even happened to me when I go to reply, forget I'm not logged in, and have to go copy/paste my response before I dare click the OpenID login.
I didn't think this was happening to the folks just "signing up" with an email/password - but we had this problem report today:
http://getsatisfaction.com/extension/...
and from what I can tell that should have been an "email/password account" person - unless they used a third-party OpenID or Windows Live or something similar and shouldn't have had data loss, but they sure reported one. And when we are getting feelings like SUPER FRUSTRATED - that are probably as much or more about this data loss issue as they are the actual problem report.
We have some design issues ourselves, we've integrated links to GS and the widgets in a way that it's not clear that the person is leaving a extension.org-managed property and off to a third-party - we have this dual-customer issue - and others.
But this data loss on post/reply due to login is really getting us - and we are likely going to dump Get Satisfaction after our current Basic Year is up because of it (and perhaps because of our own failure to integrate GS well), we went to Get Satisfaction because you guys offer an experience/tool set we couldn't easily develop ourselves, and none of the off-the-shelf packages have.
But maybe you can do something/anything to help :-)
1) Save the posted information with session or keyed cookie and let it survive the OpenID login.
2) Don't show reply or post *at all* until they login
2a) Or give me a "company" setting to where I could set #2 for my company.
3) I know you are pimping your "integrated login" for premium users - but heck, that's why we do OpenID in the first place. Per company controls for OpenID or just dealing with the data loss issue would be good - we'll still take the heat for the usability of OpenID.
Help us out a little or point me in a direction to where I can minimize this, on our current plan, for my customers.
We are getting killed by our customers on the post and reply box and the login requirement, and what I'd consider to be a design issue that's causing our customers data loss.
We have two groups of customers, one for a public site, where we don't have the concept of an account for the site (we aren't even collecting an email address anymore, except for certain functions) - and a set of internal customers that do have accounts. Those internal customers have an OpenID enabled account - and we encourage them to use their "eXtension" provided OpenID for third-parties, including Get Satisfaction.
Both sets of customers - but particularly the internal set with the OpenID's are getting frustrated when they go to post a new topic (or reply to an existing one) - enter all of the information, and then use the OpenID login, only to lose everything they entered because of the OpenID round-trip/redirect requirements.
It's even happened to me when I go to reply, forget I'm not logged in, and have to go copy/paste my response before I dare click the OpenID login.
I didn't think this was happening to the folks just "signing up" with an email/password - but we had this problem report today:
http://getsatisfaction.com/extension/...
and from what I can tell that should have been an "email/password account" person - unless they used a third-party OpenID or Windows Live or something similar and shouldn't have had data loss, but they sure reported one. And when we are getting feelings like SUPER FRUSTRATED - that are probably as much or more about this data loss issue as they are the actual problem report.
We have some design issues ourselves, we've integrated links to GS and the widgets in a way that it's not clear that the person is leaving a extension.org-managed property and off to a third-party - we have this dual-customer issue - and others.
But this data loss on post/reply due to login is really getting us - and we are likely going to dump Get Satisfaction after our current Basic Year is up because of it (and perhaps because of our own failure to integrate GS well), we went to Get Satisfaction because you guys offer an experience/tool set we couldn't easily develop ourselves, and none of the off-the-shelf packages have.
But maybe you can do something/anything to help :-)
1) Save the posted information with session or keyed cookie and let it survive the OpenID login.
2) Don't show reply or post *at all* until they login
2a) Or give me a "company" setting to where I could set #2 for my company.
3) I know you are pimping your "integrated login" for premium users - but heck, that's why we do OpenID in the first place. Per company controls for OpenID or just dealing with the data loss issue would be good - we'll still take the heat for the usability of OpenID.
Help us out a little or point me in a direction to where I can minimize this, on our current plan, for my customers.
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Inappropriate?Hi Jason,
Really sorry to hear about all the frustration. We are aware of this data loss issue with Open ID accounts and do plan to address it. I will do my best to escalate this.
We'd hate to lose you so please let us know what else we can do to meet your needs. Can you point me to the spots on your site where you've integrated GS / embedded our widgets? Perhaps I can offer some suggestions. -
Inappropriate?Pushing an escalation would be very nice :-)
This particular problem report came from our public site (that wider, public user base) - which is just a mere link:
http://www.extension.org/main/contact_us
Our internal "about site" is similar:
http://about.extension.org/contact/
Our wiki environments don't currently have links. Our "internal account application" (People) is this:
https://people.extension.org/help/con...
Our FAQ application - which is where People needs to be changed, as well as two other of our applications that work like People, and maybe at some point the About and "Public" site.
http://faq.extension.org/help/contact...
Usually that's reached via an authenticated path (the page itself won't require authentication, any other link in the site will though) Here we've tried to put in more text (and there may be a bug with our OpenID display)
The verbiage is there, and clearer than the other sites, whether it's read or not is probably a "not"
So that's how we "integrate" GS into our sites. A contact landing page - in some cases a widget from GS, links to GS, links to internal contacts, etc.
We have so many sites and services (itself a problem) - and by doing a directed OpenID with a single whitelisted provider (ourselves) has taken most of the confusion out of OpenID internally, but raises it again when we direct them to a third-party - only it's not always clear to them that they clicked a third-party link. We may have to do an interstitial page to make that more clear. (Or go full-branded, I'm not sure our budget and need is at that level though ;-)
I’m undecided
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Inappropriate?Hi Jason,
Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I think you guys have actually done a great job of integrating AND being very clear about the fact that we are a 3rd party site. You're right, though, not everyone actually reads the words you present them with. But I really don't have any additional suggestions there for you.
And, as mentioned, the log in issue is slated to be worked on. In the meantime, we a really apologize for the frustration your users are experiencing! -
Inappropriate?I don't know why this thread is marked as solved, when I think it's a (roundabout) duplicate of this thread:
http://getsatisfaction.com/getsatisfa...
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