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I’m
hopeful
Adopt Gravatar support
Will you implement Gravatar (http://gravatar.com/) support? At present this is yet another site that users have to upload their avatar icon to. In addition to the OpenID support that I hear you're planning, that would be really great.
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6OK, lets try like this. If don't want to fully support Gravatar, you can at least support it partly. For example, you can display Gravatar if user didn't upload one here. I don't know how your system works, but I can't believe that it would be that hard to add one if function which would check if user has avatar and if not add URL of Gravatar for that e-mail address.
Recently, Gravatar added more support for better development of solutions that use it. Now you can add &d=404 on the end of URL for avatar, which will return 404 header if there isn't an avatar, and 200 if there is an avatar. Another feature is that you link to signup page pre-filled with users e-mail address (like http://gravatar.com/site/signup/test@... ).
How this can be used? I'll explain with plugin I developed for WordPress. It checks if user has an avatar (via &d=404 option) and if there isn't, it shows a message to user that it can add avatar on Gravatar with link to signup page that is pre-filled with it's e-mail address. So user just needs to click on submit button to register on Gravatar.
One more feature they added is XMLRPC API so you can manage account on Gravatar remotely, from, for example, Get Satisfaction.
More code examples for implementation of Gravatar find here.
I don't understand why after more then a year after is suggested you didn't do anything about this, and instead pay bandwidth to Amazon for avatars here. If that is cheaper for you, than pay it.
Many websites are now using Gravatar, like UserVoice, Github, StackOverflow (and it's sister sites), TinyPic, OSNews, not to mention blogs because Gravatar is default option in WordPress, and forums powered by bbPress or IP.Board where it is also default option. Plus small social networks powered by BuddyPress, another Automattic project. -
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5I added GetSatisfaction to my website yesterday and the first three complaints were about having to upload yet another avatar. Support for Gravatar.com would be awesome. I've implemented it on multiple sites and it takes 5 mins. It's frustrating to see a good idea proposed over a year ago ignored! -
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now going to figure out how to stop getting emails from this topic because i don't care anymore and they come like once every month
5It's never going to happen. It's like 2 lines code in a rails helper, and if they were going to, they would have by now. -
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3I also think this should be implemented, the more websites that support Gravatar the easier and less hassling the process of switching avatars is globally. If you wouldn't exclusively add Gravatar support, may I suggest letting us use URLs for avatars instead of uploading? You'd be saving space on your servers, and also we'd be able to use Gravatars by specifying their URLs. -
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frustrated
7To me, Gravatar support is an indication of internet goodwill. It means that you care about putting your users first, and making their lives easier. The silo mentality of forcing people to add a whole bunch of data to every single website they sign up to is a complete time waster, and leads to old and inconsistent data. If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem. -
4I'm not sure I understand the case you're describing. Gravatar doesn't cache the default URL you provide - it does a 302 redirect. GSFN would (still) have control over both the URL of avatars, and the associated caching policy.
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5Urr... or you could just add ...?default=(user's gsfn avatar URL) to the Gravatar URL to redirect to the user's GSFN image if they don't have a Gravatar.
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I did some research and found out that supporting Gravatar is not part of our roadmap for the imminent future, partly because the third party logins currently provided by Get Satisfaction include avatars. We are actually more likely to add additional third party login methods and would like to hear from you if there are any additional login methods that support Gravatars that would satisfy your needs?
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sure we'll add this at some point
You're the first person to request support for Gravatars. I have one myself and I know they are useful, but I can't comment on how adding support would fit into our development schedule. Thanks for the idea!Comment -
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Earle: Great question! I love the idea. We'll have to look into this and see how easy or hard it might be.
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+1 for Gravatar support. Having implemented them on sites I manage I have to say it's pretty easy to do. And you can specify a fallback image so you are not dependent on the Gravatar service. -
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in a zenlike bliss
FYI, if you're curious about how Gravatar support has been accepted by our users, check out:
http://forums.zenbe.com/topic/84
Probably best summarized as, "cautious skepticism/enthusiasm" :)
(BTW, Gravatar support combined with OpenID would make for an unparalleled seamless login/identity experience for our users as they move from our service, to our blog, to GSFN forums. Very, very cool.) -
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1It's pretty easy, wordpress and stack overflow have done it ;) -
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1You can add support for it in 5 minutes. -
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Not quite that simple Luis; That works fine when you only use gravatars, but we would need to meld gravatar with our current avatar system.
That said, while it would be a fairly simple task to add, perhaps a half day of work to go through the places we leverage avatar data and add a fallback onto gravatar data, I'd wager to say that my time could be better spent in any hundred of other more meaningful ways. I think it would be great to add, but to be honest, IMO that wouldn't get time devoted to it until Gravatar support reaches some critical mass. -
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feeling persnickity
5Urr... or you could just add ...?default=(user's gsfn avatar URL) to the Gravatar URL to redirect to the user's GSFN image if they don't have a Gravatar.
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And then when the user inevitably changes their avatar and the gravatar caches the original, we have to make sure the url changes so that the actual change happens (well, I'd have to investigate that given it is undefined behavior in their dev docs). That conflicts with our our goal to make avatar paths durable on our own side so we can more aggresively cache html fragments that have avatars in them.
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4I'm not sure I understand the case you're describing. Gravatar doesn't cache the default URL you provide - it does a 302 redirect. GSFN would (still) have control over both the URL of avatars, and the associated caching policy.
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Ah, which is exactly what I couldn't find in their developer documents.
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LiveHttpHeaders Firefox plugin - picks up where developer docs leave off. :)
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1I have no interest in uploading a photo to this site. But if you were to use my gravatar one, then that'd be nice.
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1Either grab the gravataor (or similar services) from my email, address, or let me just enter a URL for my image. But I ain‘t uploading. -
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Gravatar support would be appreciated. You could always have a failover to the cupcake icons you so love with a "d=http%3A%2F%2Fexample.com%2Fimages%2Fexample.jpg" query string appended to the gravatar url. You could even randomize that cupcake URL if you wished.
You could also have the default redirect back to a script which determines if the user has uploaded a local graphic and transmits that inline. Then, you get support for all of the above (gravatar > local image > default cupcake). -
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Any 'official' word from Get Satisfaction about this Eric?... lol
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I like this idea a lot (a whole lot), Alex, but I'll be honest and say that it's not at the top of the list. I'll keep being vocal about it internally at Get Satisfaction, but we really do have a huge list of things to accomplish. But, I bet we can do it at some point, and I definitely look forward to it.
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2Gravatar support would be great. I dont understand why more sites just dont leverage gravatar and advertise it and not waste time server space with their own avatar system. One question though how does gravatar meld with open id hmmmmm -
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1There is an OpenID alternative to avatars: www.openvatar.com
However, I would love Automattic to support OpenID in the gravatar service - perhaps, instead of referencing an MD5'd email address in the Gravatar URL, they could have an MD5'd OpenID URL...?
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OpenId's (at least mine) has one embedded, but I'm not sure how "standard" it is. The api could request the email from the openid service in order to create the has that way.
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I’m
confident
1Gravatar support would be great. I hate having to go to many sites to update the same resource... in this case, an avatar. Gravatar, Pavatar (like Gravatar, but hosted on one's own server), or any other service that would give me more control over resources that identify me would be beneficial to me. -
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Eric and Scott your responses are ridiculous. You have a forum where your own users can request a feature they feel passionately about and you've failed (miserably) to use it to your advantage. Said feature will take you all of one whole day apparently to implement but of course you've "got a huge list of things to accomplish". Good for you. I wonder how many of those "things" were requested so passionately by your users.
And I hope you geniuses don't think this is something wanted only by the ten users that have bothered to post here, 'cause that would just be tragic.
Well what do I know, satisfaction is apparently optional and certainly not guaranteed. Gee, thanks Eric!-
I'm proud of what we've accomplished as a very small team. It's always sad to hear anonymous posters react with such anger.
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Eric, you have every right (and possibly, reason) to be proud. Yours may be a small team but (and correct me if I'm wrong) this is a for-profit business after all - heck you're VC funded and all.
You can refer to my post as an angry anonymous post or simply a user's comment, its up to you. Some organizations will gladly accept every user feedback they receive (angry or not) and some won't - it's a free world. -
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I’m
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I would love to see this
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7To me, Gravatar support is an indication of internet goodwill. It means that you care about putting your users first, and making their lives easier. The silo mentality of forcing people to add a whole bunch of data to every single website they sign up to is a complete time waster, and leads to old and inconsistent data. If you aren't part of the solution, you're part of the problem.
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using a consistent profile image
Yes yes yes! Adding Gravatars is super easy too, just a special URL based on the user's email address. -
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thinking about how easy OpenId + gravatar is!
Would love this, and am seeing it pop up in a range of places. Very nice to see a common image, and saves time in creating a profile on every separate site. -
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I’m
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3I also think this should be implemented, the more websites that support Gravatar the easier and less hassling the process of switching avatars is globally. If you wouldn't exclusively add Gravatar support, may I suggest letting us use URLs for avatars instead of uploading? You'd be saving space on your servers, and also we'd be able to use Gravatars by specifying their URLs.
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I’m
excited
+1, we would love Gravatar support also.
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now going to figure out how to stop getting emails from this topic because i don't care anymore and they come like once every month
5It's never going to happen. It's like 2 lines code in a rails helper, and if they were going to, they would have by now.-
Hi, topic starter here. I have to agree with you. It's extremely disappointing.
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I’m
frustrated
5I added GetSatisfaction to my website yesterday and the first three complaints were about having to upload yet another avatar. Support for Gravatar.com would be awesome. I've implemented it on multiple sites and it takes 5 mins. It's frustrating to see a good idea proposed over a year ago ignored!
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6OK, lets try like this. If don't want to fully support Gravatar, you can at least support it partly. For example, you can display Gravatar if user didn't upload one here. I don't know how your system works, but I can't believe that it would be that hard to add one if function which would check if user has avatar and if not add URL of Gravatar for that e-mail address.
Recently, Gravatar added more support for better development of solutions that use it. Now you can add &d=404 on the end of URL for avatar, which will return 404 header if there isn't an avatar, and 200 if there is an avatar. Another feature is that you link to signup page pre-filled with users e-mail address (like http://gravatar.com/site/signup/test@... ).
How this can be used? I'll explain with plugin I developed for WordPress. It checks if user has an avatar (via &d=404 option) and if there isn't, it shows a message to user that it can add avatar on Gravatar with link to signup page that is pre-filled with it's e-mail address. So user just needs to click on submit button to register on Gravatar.
One more feature they added is XMLRPC API so you can manage account on Gravatar remotely, from, for example, Get Satisfaction.
More code examples for implementation of Gravatar find here.
I don't understand why after more then a year after is suggested you didn't do anything about this, and instead pay bandwidth to Amazon for avatars here. If that is cheaper for you, than pay it.
Many websites are now using Gravatar, like UserVoice, Github, StackOverflow (and it's sister sites), TinyPic, OSNews, not to mention blogs because Gravatar is default option in WordPress, and forums powered by bbPress or IP.Board where it is also default option. Plus small social networks powered by BuddyPress, another Automattic project. -
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I’m
anxious
1I've seen some sites offering both their custom avatar system and gravatar. I'm sure it could be implemented here.
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come on what is this? why is gravatar still not supported here? get to it. -
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whats the benefit of gravatar-
You silly goose!
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I’m
disappointed
1Still no change? Aww...
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IdeaScale does supports Gravatar
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I’m
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IdeaScale does supports Gravatar. These guys are awesome with unique features
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Cool feature! No I'm a cupcake :( -
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Apologies that there hasn't been an update on this topic for quite a while. I'm going to check and see if there's any new information we can pass on. Thanks for being patient!
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I did some research and found out that supporting Gravatar is not part of our roadmap for the imminent future, partly because the third party logins currently provided by Get Satisfaction include avatars. We are actually more likely to add additional third party login methods and would like to hear from you if there are any additional login methods that support Gravatars that would satisfy your needs?
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2There sure is, it's still called gravatar.com. I don't know how after all this time and all the comments and suggestions you couldn't implement this little feature.
Even though you are using third party login methods: when I go to my profile, there's still the "your icon" file input.
And when I registered, I had to upload an avatar, it didn't pull it from the third party sites. It could then check on gravatar if I have an avatar there and pull it in.
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I’m
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Look, the issue with gravatar is that we want to have an option to use their services. It makes avatar management easier, since you can change it in one place and the changes appear in all sites which use it.
You could even consider adding support for Twitter and Facebook avatars too.
About logins, I think the JanRain offers options enough. Google, Yahoo, Twitter, Facebook, Live, WordPress and OpenID seems to cover it all. I had, though, a issue using Google to login, since it uses the GMail address and doesn't stick with my account: it creates another.
By the way, offer merging accounts. -
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not impressed at all.
You have no idea how disappointed I was when I looked at the top of the page just now and saw that it's been over three years(!) since I originally asked for this.
It's clearly never going to happen, which is amazing for such a tiny little thing when you've done so very many other and bigger things in the intervening time. -
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hopeful ~~ We make our choices, then our choices make us.
Very disappointed. I agree, Gravatar is the way to go. It's very user-friendly and tech support is awesome (email and answers to your questions so fast that you don't have time to even try to figure it out on your own). I've had my account for years. Hex is right; such a small thing and would make posters appreciate the "bigger" things as well as the "smaller" issues. JMO.
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Gravatar allows me to upload a picture once and use it on many sites.
GS should support Gravatar for profile pictures.
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1Seem's like the GetSatisfaction team have forgotten about this great and simple idea. This was posted in 2009 and is still marked as under consideration. Surely it is not that drastic and addition. -
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I hate to be a party-pooper, but: please do *not* add Gravatar, at least without giving an option to disable its use. Enabling Gravatar on a site that doesn't otherwise expose email addresses is a privacy concern. Either by taking a username and trying variations on it with various popular domains or by a good enough rainbow table, it is possible to discover a significant percentage of users' email addresses. As an experiment, the former method was run in a fairly naive way against a set of stackoverflow users and more than 10% of their email addresses were discovered.
As an alternative suggestion, just making it easy for people to import their gravatar into their getsatisfaction profile would be nice.-
My spam filter already catches 1,000-1,500 spams per month, what's a few more? And if you're worried about exposing illegal activity, it sounds like you're bright enough to cover your tracks in other ways.
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Well, you make a case for just having getsatisfaction reveal email addresses - but that's not what they've chosen to do.
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