HP Pavilion DV1000 should be recalled - won't somebody help us?
Hello, all.
I bought an HP Pavilion DV1000 2.5 years ago. I customized it and it was my pride and joy. I was so excited - it was the first laptop I ever bought for myself. Everything else I owned was a hand-me-down. Therefore, I wanted all the bells and whistles, and decided to go with HP because my previous hand-me-down was an HP and it lasted forever. Well, after 2.5 years...and of course, after the warranty expired...it fell apart. The computer switches from AC to battery, back and forth - then stops acknowledging the power altogether...then it shuts down. Please note that all of this happens WHILE its plugged into the wall. And no, its not the electrical socket. It's definitely the computer. If you do a search on the web for "DV1000 No Power Up", you'll see what I mean. I'm not the only one with this issue, and HP is not acknowledging it AT ALL.
To add insult to injury, I moved to Canada temporarily for my husband's job. Did you know that you CANNOT call HP US from Canada? It is absolutely impossible. I can't even call HP Canada and ask for a direct number to the US...or to be transferred. It's like they don't want to have anything to do with each other. They don't give a darn about their customer...its all about keeping them separate entitites!!
So, what have I done to fix this problem? 1 - Called HP Canda for help 2 times. They could do nothing but give me a list of authorized resellers. 2 - went to an HP authorized reseller IN CANADA. 3 - They said it was the power cord. I replaced it. That's $50. Didn't help. 4 - Then they sent me directly to the guy they would have sent it out to themselves. The guy had it for 5 days the first time - thought he fixed it when he didn't. 5 - I went back again, left it with him for another week. Thought he fixed it, but he didn't. That's $200. 6 - Then I replaced the battery. But I had to call my brother in the US and ask him to buy me one and ship it to Toronto because there was no way to get the battery here. That didn't help. That's another $200. We're up at $450, folks...and the problem is still not fixed. I'm 1/3 of the way to a new laptop by now. 7 - Last ditch effort, I do a search on google for problems with the dv1000. I get mega results. I realize its not worth pouring anymore money into the thing, and I give up.
Now, I'm without a laptop. I blew $2400USD for this laptop, then an added $450 for repairs that didn't help...that's $2850 for this thing...that doesn't work. What a disappointment. I can't believe that no one wants to help.
And to think I was considering buying another HP after this debacle...but then I got smart. I did another search for their DV6000 (6500) laptop out of curiousity since it was getting good reviews...and found a whole new mess of complaints about the model and its wireless issues. That's when I said no way.
HP will have to do some serious apologizing and replacing for me to ever consider giving them a thumbs up again. I used to recommend them to EVERYONE. I was their biggest fan. Not anymore. No way.
I bought an HP Pavilion DV1000 2.5 years ago. I customized it and it was my pride and joy. I was so excited - it was the first laptop I ever bought for myself. Everything else I owned was a hand-me-down. Therefore, I wanted all the bells and whistles, and decided to go with HP because my previous hand-me-down was an HP and it lasted forever. Well, after 2.5 years...and of course, after the warranty expired...it fell apart. The computer switches from AC to battery, back and forth - then stops acknowledging the power altogether...then it shuts down. Please note that all of this happens WHILE its plugged into the wall. And no, its not the electrical socket. It's definitely the computer. If you do a search on the web for "DV1000 No Power Up", you'll see what I mean. I'm not the only one with this issue, and HP is not acknowledging it AT ALL.
To add insult to injury, I moved to Canada temporarily for my husband's job. Did you know that you CANNOT call HP US from Canada? It is absolutely impossible. I can't even call HP Canada and ask for a direct number to the US...or to be transferred. It's like they don't want to have anything to do with each other. They don't give a darn about their customer...its all about keeping them separate entitites!!
So, what have I done to fix this problem? 1 - Called HP Canda for help 2 times. They could do nothing but give me a list of authorized resellers. 2 - went to an HP authorized reseller IN CANADA. 3 - They said it was the power cord. I replaced it. That's $50. Didn't help. 4 - Then they sent me directly to the guy they would have sent it out to themselves. The guy had it for 5 days the first time - thought he fixed it when he didn't. 5 - I went back again, left it with him for another week. Thought he fixed it, but he didn't. That's $200. 6 - Then I replaced the battery. But I had to call my brother in the US and ask him to buy me one and ship it to Toronto because there was no way to get the battery here. That didn't help. That's another $200. We're up at $450, folks...and the problem is still not fixed. I'm 1/3 of the way to a new laptop by now. 7 - Last ditch effort, I do a search on google for problems with the dv1000. I get mega results. I realize its not worth pouring anymore money into the thing, and I give up.
Now, I'm without a laptop. I blew $2400USD for this laptop, then an added $450 for repairs that didn't help...that's $2850 for this thing...that doesn't work. What a disappointment. I can't believe that no one wants to help.
And to think I was considering buying another HP after this debacle...but then I got smart. I did another search for their DV6000 (6500) laptop out of curiousity since it was getting good reviews...and found a whole new mess of complaints about the model and its wireless issues. That's when I said no way.
HP will have to do some serious apologizing and replacing for me to ever consider giving them a thumbs up again. I used to recommend them to EVERYONE. I was their biggest fan. Not anymore. No way.
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Inappropriate?Same Here. Same Machine Faulty Heat Sensor. Can't use any an control software because Bios Locks down Sensor Access.
I’m Frustrated
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I am convinced the DV1000 Shutdown Problem is not caused by overheating. Mine was running at only around 38C degrees and still had random shutdowns. I have taken it apart so many time I think I could do it blindfolded now. Before it gave up the ghost permanently it would shutdown, and after a five minute rest it would start up ok, other times it would not fire up until the next day. I have even taken the motherboard out of the case completely and with it sitting on my bench have plugged it in and it works fine, all lights etc. were working. But as soon as I put it all back together inside the case it refuses to start, no lights, nothing. I am convinced that something is shorting out somewhere on the board when it is screwed into place. HP are having people go to more expense by giving them wrong information. It is not a heat problem nor is it to do with the power cord, battery or power connection jack.
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Inappropriate?I pretty much have the same issue with my DV1000 (dv 1300 CTO to be exact). HP fixed my fan under warranty (Jan 2006) and now I'm thinking when the fan died it probably caused some heat damage that is just showing up now.
The issue started showing for me a few weeks ago. I thought I had a bad hard drive -- I actually do now -- but once I replaced it the random shutdowns started to occur more frequently. I'm now thinking the shutdown issues are what killed my other hard drive. I'm sure there's a cracked solder joint, board trace or .20 cent diode that is causing all these issues (google "DV1000 random shutdown" to get a sense for the problem) and HP needs to step up and fix these things.
Consumerist notes how someone is trying a class action suit. I'm not a fan of these suits because I think they only benefit the attorneys, but on the other hand I'd like HP to experience some pain. Lots more comments in the consumerist post thread: http://consumerist.com/tag/lawsuits/?...
I’m fustrated, irritated, and disappointed
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hey tim - you can add dv5000 to that list too. -
BIOS & Driver updates ?? -
Inappropriate?I also have the same issue. DV1000 just wont start! 2.5 years old as well.
I’m frustrated, irritated, and disappointed
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Inappropriate?I had the same problem with my HP dv1000 notebook. Within the first 6 months the system board was replaced, eight months later the computer shutdown. HP said it was an operating system problem, but it freezes when a non- Windows operating system was used to diagnosis the problem. I was my first laptop. HP customer serivce was horrible! I will never buy an HP product!
I’m frustrated, irritated
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Inappropriate?Hi,
Yeah Ive got the same problem with my Dv1000. Random shutdowns till finally it wouldn't fire up at all. Did all the usual things like clean the fan and heatsink etc. but it's definitely not an overheating problem. I replaced the motherboard and it ran fine for another 6 months then got the same symptoms all over again. Now it just sits in the corner sulking.
What cheeses me off the most is that - 1. I paid nearly AU$2500 for it and after just 18 months I can't use it. 2. The problems begin just after the warranty runs out. 3. HP have not taken any interest in the problem.
There are so many people having the same trouble with the DV1000 model that it is clearly a faulty product yet they won't come out and admit it. I think it stinks and shows what they really think of their customers. I'll shy clear of HP brand products in future.
Cheers
Baz in Oz.
I’m frustrated, Irritated and pissed off!
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Inappropriate?You know...HP is supposed to be ON this site, yet none of us have heard a peep out of them. What a joke. I thought the whole purpose of this was to improve customer satisfaction. It says that there are 2 HP reps on this site, but yet...nothing. What gives???
I’m pissed
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HP isn't on-site.
They require you to bring the system to a HP Facilitation Place who send it directly to them. -
Inappropriate?Welcome to the club. I have a DV1000 Pavillion laptop as well. Bought the extended warranty for almost $400. frustrating to say the least. Most of the time calls are routed to foreign non English speaking countries and the customer dissatisfaction agent asks you to repeat yourself. After waiting over an hour numerous times I decided to call back. Just before the 3 year warranty was up a foreign agent promised to send me (overnight per the contract) a box to send the machine in for repair. Never arrived and the machine still doesn't boot. Now out of warranty. Have used Compaq and HP for 30 years and still have the dead 1000 and one dv8000 and dv9000 (the last 2 are under extended warranty plans).
Just purchased my first Mac. Hate learning the new system but it amazed me more each day. Installing windows XP allows dual operating systems and I can use my windows prgms.
After owning in excess of 40 HP/Compaq computers over the last 30 years I give up. The only saving grace if you are lucky enough to get a Canadian or American on the cust svc line - Otherwise hangup.
Moving on to Mac and planning to convert 30 HP stations with Macs. HP may not want to fix my computer under the warranty as they promised and they will win the battle. Guess who wins the war! Join me and move on
I’m disgusted but now thrilled to escape HP
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hey, jk - the first computer i ever bought was a mac - used one for years, but finally had to move to "the Dark Side". the only PCs i've ever bought have been HP, so like you i have had experience with HP computers for a long time. i'm sure you have noticed as i have how the quality has steadily gone downhill. i don't intend to get political here but i clearly remember when carly fiorina was the head of HP - she was a strident proponent of outsourcing - in fact she made a famous comment to the effect that anyone who sits at a desk can have their job outsourced, and added her approval to that concept. how much happier i would have been if when the HP board gave her the boot they had outsourced HER desk job. anyway, as outsourcing continues its cutthroat pace with each successive foreign country outbidding its neighbor by offering slave labor at slave wages to corporate multinationals the products produced will continue on the path of quality degradation. and as long as our government - and i include both parties in this - continues to give TAX BREAKS to "American" companies who outsource their jobs, we will all be stuck with shoddy products. -
Inappropriate?Ditto...mine began shutting down about 6 months ago. Got really bad for about 3 weeks then all problems stopped for close to 2 months. Recently started back again, and now wont fire up. after a little research the real victim here is the people who trusted and valued my opinion when I told them performance/cost etc, go HP. I just want to thank HP for ruining my credibility! Guess you get what you pay for, im sure HP sold out to crappy parts and obv by reading all posts, crappy support. I bet you anything they will answer the phone immediately to assist you if you call them and press the number to purchase new equipment!!!
I’m blah
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Inappropriate?My sister just gave me her dv1000 that has the same problem. She had it just over a year, then held on to it for a year trying to get if fixed. Then she gave up and gave it to me for the autopsy.
I’m annoyed at HP.
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Inappropriate?Still have yet to hear a peep from the HP crew that is supposedly 'participating' in this site. Nice.
I’m still pissed
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Inappropriate?lol jewdy... i've wondered about that message at top of page:
" 3 employees of HP are listening and participating " LMAO ... oh, really? is it the same 3... do they "listen" in shifts? earphones? headphones? are they 24/7? how much are they paid to "listen"? is it a full time job? are they required to have hearing tests as a prerequisite?
are they here at all? or is that just something that this site's owners added to help inspire our venting?
i say to the " 3 employees of HP " - "stand up now! show yourselves! prove you are not just a figment of the site owners' imagination!"
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Inappropriate?Feck that stuff, from Ireland and have a dv6500 and i have the very same problem, everytime i try and convert a AVI in DVD format (or anything CPU intensive) the thing just turns off after about 30sec into the conversion, even if you feel the bottom of the laptop it doesn't even feel that hot, there must be a senor fault, fan sounds fine. Is there any HP techs going to reply to this tread or ?
I’m frustrated
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"Is there any HP techs going to reply to this tread or ?"
Sorry Liffeyman, I doubt it very much, I think the 3 HP employees referred to above are the cleaning lady, the tea lady and the boy who takes the lunch orders!.
Baz in Oz. : ) -
Inappropriate?I found a HP disassemby document and stripped the dv1000 down to the motherboard, but I don't see anything obvious. Since I had it apart I checked ebay for replacements. There are several, but I also found this http://cgi.ebay.com/HP-COMPAQ-DV1000-... . I might give it a try. Apparently this is a common enough problem where someone can make a side business out of it.
I’m keeping expectations low so I'm not easily disappointed.
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Inappropriate?Hi karlthetruth,
I pulled my DV1000 apart several times and hunted around for another mainboard. At the time there was one for sale in the UK, one in Guatemala!! and 24 (yes that's right 24!) in Hong Kong. So I purchased one of the Hong Kong boards for 140 Australian dollars thinking I'd just thrown my money away, but I was wrong. Two weeks went by then the motherboard turned up in the mail, in perfect condition. I installed it no problem and it worked fine for about six months then the same shutdown trouble started all over again. Now I have a laptop with two motherboards, and neither of them work.
That repair offer on the link you posted seems a bit to 'iffy' to me, but perhaps I am being too skeptic. I find it difficult to trust anybody these days after having my fingers burned by HP.
Let us know here how you get on. If they fix your Dv1000 or if the NO FIX, NO PAYMENT offer is genuine then there might be others keen to take a look.
Cheers,
Baz in Oz
I’m still pissed off, but hey, I'm not dead yet so that's something ay!..
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Inappropriate?Is this for real? a lawsuit against HP?
http://www.sfmslaw.com/pages/cases.ph...
and here is an interesting twist re: laptop video chips
http://mobile.slashdot.org/article.pl...
I’m undecided
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Inappropriate?My dv1000 has died FOUR times within the first two years of purchase. Luckily, I bought the Circuit City service plan, otherwise I would have been in really bad shape. I am very very disappointed with my HP experience, especially because of their lack of response to what is, obviously, a wide-spread problem.
I’m pissed
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Inappropriate?I was working with my DV1000 Pavillion last Friday and right in the middle of a project, with absolutely no warning, it died, shut down, kaput, never to be resurrected. It was 3 y/o. I took it to Best Buy (thought I had bought it there-oops) and was told by Geek Guy that it wasn't my power cord (darn) but probably my "motherboard" was fried. Then I found out I hadn't bought it from them. Went to Circuit City and found out that I had bought it there but my warranty had expired June of "07 but I sure don't remember being reminded of that last year. Bottom line is my laptop is deader than a door-nail (whatever that means) and no way to retrieve my info unless I send to HP and the cost will be as much as buying a new computer. I absolutely loved my HP and was very proud of it but now that I am hearing that there is history of this problem I am definately not inclined to ever buy an HP product again!!!
I’m sad, frustrated and disappointed!
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There IS a pretty easy way to retrieve your info. You can take your hard drive out of that computer, put it in an external enclosure with USB and access all of your files. I just shipped my sister's hard drive back to her in an enclosure that I got at CompUSA for $9. I can give you more info if you want, but if you have a computer savvy friend that can help you they can do it pretty easily. -
Inappropriate?Thank you for the info. I actually must have had a premonition because last week I backed up all my info on DVD's. I had never backed up my info before! :-)
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sad story, susan, and unfortunately too common. karl is right about the hard drive. and even if you have your info backed up...why not take out the hard drive before you trash the computer? placed in an external enclosure as karl mentions it can serve as extra storage for another computer. it's real simple to remove from laptop and real simple to put in an external enclosure - in fact most external enclosures come with instructions. it would be nice to salvage something from your investment! again, sorry about your misfortune. -
Inappropriate?Here's the reply I just got from HP, via email:
Thank you for contacting HP Total Care.
I understand from your email that your HP Pavilion dv1000 Notebook PC is dead and non functional.
Susan, I regret for what has happened. I have checked for your notebook model and there is no such defective motherboard for your notebook model. I apologize for the inconvenience caused. I wish I was in a position to assist you. I hope you understand my limitations. I suggest you to contact any local Authorized Service Provider (ASP) as enquire as to what can be done.
My sincere apologies to you.
If you need further assistance, please reply to this message and we will be happy to assist you further.
I’m not surprised
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Inappropriate?Hey, Susan. What exactly does that email MEAN? I can't even understand the point of it. I mean, I get the fact that they don't want to help you. (surprise, surprise) - but what do they mean 'there is no such defective motherboard?' Wouldn't you know whether or not there is a defect with your own computer? Is this person saying they don't believe you? And...given the replies I'm getting to this thread, alone - nevermind the loads of info out on the internet...I'm guessing that there IS a problem with this particular model and that maybe they should...um...I don't know...INVESTIGATE IT????? Do I need to do their jobs FOR them???
I’m still pissed
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Inappropriate?Exactly what I was thinking. Here's how I responded back to them:
Thank you for responding so quickly. Obviously no one has informed you of the following site: http://getsatisfaction.com/hp/topics/..., which documents several people with the same problem I encountered with my HP PAVILLION dv1000. I have been told by Best Buy & Circuit City techs is that the best thing I can do is buy a new computer. I will never buy another HP product since appears you do not stand by your products. I do understand your limitations but you must understand my position. I loved my HP laptop and was very proud of it, and then one day it just went dead, never to be resurrected. Imagine my frustration, no support to be found and a waste of my money. I will contact your HP president, if need be, to apprise him of the very unsatisfactory non-solution of your answer, which I know is through no fault of your own, except you work for a company that does not stand by their products! I would not want to admit that.
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Inappropriate?awesome, indeed... but I'm guessing even more impact may come by sending the same to the CEO of Hewlett Packard AND the Board of Directors. and guess what? here is a link to an HP site page with the EMAIL LINKS for BOTH!
http://h30261.www3.hp.com/phoenix.zht...
p.s. i'm composing my emails right now and adding a link to this site - still don't believe any HP staffers ever look at this site, but at least i can attempt to let the CEO and the Board know of its existence.
I’m undecided.
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Inappropriate?I am SO GLAD you guys have joined this thread!! When I write to them, I'm also going to provide links to other sites which have threads similar to this one. Just do a simple google search on: dv1000 power issue. I guarantee you won't be disappointed. ;-) OH, and if you really feel like wasting some time, try a search on dv6000 and dv9000 wireless issues! have a ball!
I’m ready for a smackdown
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Inappropriate?Boooo to HP. I have to say, it's getting harder and harder to find a laptop that doesn't totally suck. At least now I know to stay away from HP for sure!
I’m annoyed
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Inappropriate?Here is another addition from another frustrated guy. My customized dv1000, 2.7 yrs, no extra service plan, pretty good till an week back, started this phenomenon of random shutdown. It starts up again though, but can go off anytime. I'm not a hardware guy, may not even try disassembling. And after reading so many posts in so many forums, I'm sure HP not gonna / can't help.
I got another (office) laptop, but my wife uses this one regularly. So we got to cough up good money for a new one, surely not another HP. Yeah, they're happily loosing customers, hitherto loyal and satisfied ones, too. Thanks Jewdy7 for starting the thread and to all who replied. Don't know how many of us it'll take them to notice, if they ever.
I’m sad, irritated, frustrated etc etc
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BIOS and Driver updates ?? -
Inappropriate?Same here, i'm a repair store in southern california. I have 2 with identical problems!!, Wont turn on. One chip i can see looks or appears to be browned (burned). Due to overheating i guess.It is labelled, 'Ultramedia pci74II'. Please let me know if anyone else sees this 'Browning'.
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Inappropriate?My DV1000 died just a couple days out of its 1-year warranty. It always seemed to run hot (sometimes too hot to put on my lap). If I remember correctly (it was a couple years ago), it had been randomly shutting down on and off prior to shutting down permanently one day. I talked HP into fixing it as if it was still under warranty. Had the same hard-to-understand service reps others have mentioned.
It was a melted motherboard and speaker gasket. They sent it back to me fixed, and it's been okay ever since, but I'm really careful with it now. When it's on the desk, it lives on one of those metal racks used for cooling cookies, and when it's on my lap, I make sure the fan is never blocked.
When I asked about it, they said they had never seen this problem before. Well, I guess now they have...sounds like it won't help much though. -
Inappropriate?Ok folks, hang on to your hats...I actually got a call from an HP case manager yesterday, due to the email I sent to Mark, the CEO of HP, after getting such a poor non-response from an HP online tech. The case manager is offering to split the cost of repair and S/H (if it's just the motherboard, it would be $398 but could be more if other things found wrong), so my cost would be $199, or half of the final cost. I'll also get a 90 day warranty (better then nothing, I guess). It's not too bad of a deal since my warranty ran out over a year ago and I never had any problem with it until the day it died. The rep is giving me 30 days to respond to her offer. Since I just bought a new computer (not an HP), I wanted to think about whether it's worth it to me or not. It's better than nothing, which is pretty much what we have been getting up to now. I would advise anyone interested to contact the CEO of HP and see what happens. I just went to the HP site and found the link to send an email to the CEO but someone above also had a link to use (see Claire's response).
I’m thankful & happy
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Hi Susan,
Good on ya', that's a good result going on HP's past performance. I guess you need to weigh up what you've already spent on the dv1000, then decide whether it's worth spending another $200. I might dash off an email to the CEO tonight and see what happens.
Cheers,
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I would fight for them paying everything. Then again, I have a working computer (at the moment) so I can afford the attitude! :) -
I would fight for them paying everything. Then again, I have a working computer (at the moment) so I can afford the attitude! :) -
Inappropriate?hey susan... that "someone above" was me. the link i provided includes an email link to the HP board of directors AND a link to the CEO.
i'm so glad you contacted the ceo and that you got a response. i would urge everyone to follow the same example. if enough people do... their will be more than adequate documentation.
I’m thankful.
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Inappropriate?Ah Well, I kind of agree to Laura. Its their problem with faulty heat Sensor. So why on earth should I split the cost ?
But then mine is still going on at least. I took the advice from one of the other forums and bought a Cooler Pad off of Amazon.
http://www.amazon.com/Powered-Efficie...=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1219932801&sr=8-1
I also use 18KFANGUI to watch the temperature. Between the two of them, they have stopped the random shutdowns.
I feel bad for those of you whose mother board packed up. I guess from your point of view, $200 is probably worth it out of warranty.
I’m Undecided
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Inappropriate?I am having the same exact problem. My dv1010us started to shutdown randomly just after it got out of warranty. I tried a lot of things, nothing worked. Some say need to change the motherboard, well I would rather buy a new one
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Inappropriate?Hi,
Now this is really wierd!. As I have said in my earlier post I bought a secondhand motherboard from Hong Kong and used it to replace the original board in my dv1000 which had died. It ran for about six months then the same shutdown symptoms appeared so I just threw the whole thing back in it's box and forgot about it.
Now here's the wierd part of the story. My notebook and spare motherboard have been sitting in the cupboard now for about 12 months and this morning I got them out and plugged in the notebook and, as expected, nothing happened. But when I plugged in the spare motherboard and pushed the start button..... ALL THE BLUE LIGHTS CAME ON!!. This is just the bare motherboard, on it's own (not fitted in the case), with no cpu, cmos battery or anything else attached to it. What's going on? The last time I tried this 12 months ago it was in the case and definitely would not fire up.
I still cannot see how this could be related to a heat problem unless it is due to expansion of the board itself as it warms up. It was summertime when I last tried it unsuccessfully and now we are just coming out of winter and the room in which it has been stored is fairly cold. I will try it in a warmer part of my house to test this theory
Tonight I will reassemble it all in the case and see what happens. I will keep you all informed.
Baz in Oz
I’m frustrated Confused and genrally pissed off.
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Inappropriate?I just purchased a second hand HP DV1000...at first it worked fine. After only a few days the fan started to make a minor clicking sound intermittently. After a few more days the fan began clicking more and more for longer periods of time...each time I would try to shut the laptop down within a couple minutes and leave it off for an hour or so. After a few more days I turned the laptop on and after using it for maybe 30 minutes the fan kicked on and made a very loud whirring sound. It made this sound for few seconds then stopped for a few minutes then made it again... A few days ago it began making that whirring sound constantly and after maybe an hour to would just turn itself off. NO warning-nothing-just shut off. Today the whirring sound happened again after I turned it on but this time it stopped--it seems like there is now NO FAN and it only stays on for a few minutes before it starts to respond extra extra slow then I have to turn it off because it overheats if I don't.. After leaving it off for a long time and turning it back on still no fan sound and from looking at it it seems like the fan is not even working at all.. I am so angry!! The girl I bought it from is a friend and she said told me before I bought it that sometimes it made a little clicking sound after being on for a very long time but besides that it worked perfectly. I'd like to think she is not deceiving me and that because of all the other responses and other sites with people complaining about the same problems that this is a flaw in the computer. HP really really needs to do something...not only about this but about the rest of their products as well. We have purchased HP: home computers, printers, office computers etc and each time we end having a lot problems within a short amount of time. We are currently saving up for a MAC computer for home...we have decided we'd rather go without a computer for a while than afford another HP computer right now only to be DISAPPOINTED, FRUSTRATED, ANGRY, AGGRAVATED AND RIPPED OFF by HP EVER AGAIN!!!! I have to hurry and end my complaint before my laptop shuts off and I loose the above written content and have to start all over again...
Very Unsatisified HP Customer and Complete Non-Believer In HP's
I’m FRUSTRATED!!!!!
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Inappropriate?damn i wish i'd have known about this thread, this site, this problem... before... i bought this "in great shape" HP dv1000... 3 days later... pfttt it wont turn on... i suspected the powercord (it was not "in great shape") so i bought a new one... it arrived today and i excitedly went to boot... still nada. i was about to look online for a new battery, when i ran across this site, info, and ALL the many pages of HP dv1000x complaints.
crap. so... if i want this damn POS to work, a new motherboard MAY be necessary... and MAY only last another 6 months?
craptacular.
I’m another consumer idiot.
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Inappropriate?Hi folks,
Here is an update to my last post regarding my secondhand motherboard. As I said earlier all the lights on the board lit up when plugged in after 12 months of disuse. I decided to reinstall it in the notebook case to see if it would boot up.
After each step I would plug the powercord in and hit the start button. So here is the order of assembly and the results -
1. Screwed the M/board into place in lower half of notebook case, (it still lit up ok).
2. Connected the several white ribbon type leads, (it still lit up, then went off but then came back on but lights were flashing on & off).
3. Installed the USB/S video controller board, (lights flashing on & off still).
4. Installed CPU, (it still lit up, but lights still flashing on & off).
5. Installed Heatsink and Fan (no lights, nothing!).
I have taken the board out again and tested it but it does not fire up at all now. I have written to the CEO of HP but have not had a reply from them.
My conclusion here is that it is time to dig a hole and bury my DV1000, I should have just buried my AU$2000 in cash, I'm sure it would have been less stressfull.
HP has lost me as a customer/victim for good.
Cheers,
Baz in Oz
I’m frustrated
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Sorry to hear that. :( But thanks for sharing. It is a shame because there are so many working pieces that are now useless I feel guilty about getting rid of it. But, I guess I'm not the one who should feel guilty. *cough*HP*cough* I'm off to find a shovel. ;) -
Inappropriate?hope all of you are aware of this thread:
http://getsatisfaction.com/hp/topics/...
it covers the same problem.
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Inappropriate?Same problem here. I'm really dissapointed since at work we have dozens of HP servers, top quality and reliability!!, but these random shutdowns had me lost hundreds of hours of work!! (they're PRICELESS!!!!!)
Recommend buying a Lenovo instead
I’m sad in Monterrey, Mexico
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Inappropriate?I beg to differ with Diego and agree at the same time. I have had HP Servers at work. Top of the Class reliability. Nary a complaint.
Won't recommend Lenovo either. Have equally bad complaints as DV1000 on those too.
I might lean towards Dell. But then one person's treasure is someone else's trash.
I’m unsure
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Dell is the worst choice that there is-never buy anything Dell. They are much worse then HP and the hardware they use is all garbage. They will not back up anything they sell. I know because I have been a computer tech since 1986 and have seen it all. Dell is junk. -
i have never used any but HP laptops until November when i go a great deal on a Toshiba... i know it is way too early, but it looks and feels more substantial and i like the placement and size of the cooling vents. i'll keep my fingers crossed. -
i have never used any but HP laptops until November when i got a great deal on a Toshiba... i know it is way too early, but it looks and feels more substantial and i like the placement and size of the cooling vents. i'll keep my fingers crossed. -
I got a hand-me-down Toshiba Portege that I loved, but it finally bit the dust. It had been owned by a business, so it may have been higher end than a consumer model, but it was a fabulous machine. Thanks for reminding me of them....that may be my HP replacement! -
I got a hand-me-down Toshiba Portege that I loved, but it finally bit the dust. It had been owned by a business, so it may have been higher end than a consumer model, but it was a fabulous machine. Thanks for reminding me of them....that may be my HP replacement! -
Inappropriate?I too have just encountered the demise of my dv1000. I was using it yesterday morning before I left for work and then last night when I went to use it before I went to bed, I noticed that it was turned off. I went to turn it on and it would not start up. I immediately logged onto my dv9659? and started to google search for an answer to my dilemna. After only a few hits Im saying "OH GREAT!". So I've spent $2000 on my dv1000 about 2 years ago and another $1500 on my dv9659 about 6 months ago and now I have one dead and maybe one just sitting there waiting to die? I plan to call hp customer care today but i really hate to because the last time I called I ended up getting someone I couldn't understand and who couldn't understand me and spent HOURS (LIKE 10) resolving a nonworking remote control issue. GREAT@!#!@.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Elaborating a little on this problem, there seems to be two different scenarios:
1.- Bad fan. Clicking, chirping, stuck fan or whatever is a mechanical problem and VERY common in the industry, that's why industrial servers have a lot of fan redundancy and hot swapping fans. Tha only solutions is to put a new fan, don't try to repair it (cleaning it, putting oil, etc), it will fail shortly.
2.- Bad design. HP should make a recall or serious BIOS enhancement, see below.
One thing that pikes my curiosity is that this problem seems to be spreading with time; almost all people that report this problem began experience it after more than a year of use, which usually refers to a mechanical problem (warping, toasting, cold solder, aging circuits) more than a software or hard disk failure (BTW, some people report changing the hard disk for a new one without success)
After reading the same problem in many forums, the problem seems to point to a defective heath sensor or a faulty fan driver circuit, not the fan itself.
I have learned thet the sensor is located below the CPU, and that repair is out of reach for mortals, the only solution offered everywhere is a motherboard replacement ($$$).
If it's the driver circuit (toasted or aged), this may mean to replace a surface mounted integrated circuit (first you'll have to get a new one!), a task not recommended even for intermediate users.
Alternate solutions:
1.- A external powered fan tray (maybe USB powered), as suggested elsewhere. You should be careful to select one that can push a lot of air into the fan opening at the bottom left where the fan screen is. If possible, I'd suggest to remove the internal fan and rely exclusively on the external tray. This may eat the battery a little, but that's better that to lose all your work in progress.
2.- To alter the BIOS so the fan is always on. Somebody with expertise on BIOSes can analyze the POST code (since the POST routine turns the fan on for about 10 seconds, it may be easy to identify the register settings that control the fan) and generate a small program to turn on the fan permanently, or maybe better, on and off every so and so seconds, even better at user's command.
3.- Less elegant, bus as effective as number 2, is to rewire the fan to a place that has proper voltages always present. This may also eat the battery a little, but that's better that to lose all your work in progress.
Another possibility may be a faulty power supply circuit that shortens under "pressure"... IMHO not very probable, but possible. I have replaced the battery and the AC adaptor, and the problem remains the same. Still, it can be an internal power supply problem.
I’m encabronado that for HP the solution (BIOS update) may be very easy but they don't seem to care
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Inappropriate?I have been experiencing this shut down thing for a good year now on my 3 yr old HP Pavilion 1000. It first posed as shutting down in the middle of using it. It gave no warning just BAM. Then it appeared like the battery was not being charged. So we forked over another 80 bucks to HP for a new cord. Still the same BS shuts down without warning and now it won't start or turn on at all. I now have a useless 1500.00 doorstop.
I’m Frustrated
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Welcome to the club Judi,
Many people outlay money on new batteries before realising the problem is more serious. The dv1000 does a better job as a doorstop anyway,
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Inappropriate?Hello fellow HP victims,
Here's an update on what's happening at my end.
I wrote to the CEO at HP and he put a case manager on the job who has tried to ring me a couple of times but unfortunately I've not been home on both occasions. The case manager also sent me an email and I replied to him with a lengthy email explaining my dv1000 problem and how cheesed off I was etc., and how HP was losing it's customers through their inaction over this faulty product. I also included links to this website to give him an idea of the extent of the problem. The following is part of his response to my email -
>>>>>>"It is our pleasure to be of service to you and thank you for choosing HP as your preferred vendor...... I have reviewed the case history as provided by you, & I apologize for all the Inconvenience caused. In order to assist you better, I would request me the following details:
1. Unit Serial No & Product No which there at the back of the unit.
2. Dt of PURCHASE OF THE UNIT.
3. Month when the unit failed again.
4. Previous Service details like service report, Dt of service.
Once I get these details I would need to check with the concerned team and see what the best can be done from our side.
In regards to Issues reported in the below links, there were no Major Issues reported by customers for the product during the warranty period of these units and it’s been some time that this model is completely OUT of production. Hence cannot provide an authorization immediately and would require proper approval.
Should you have any further problems please call 13 10 47 option#3#4
Please give your reference number to the agent that answers your call, so we can continue to work together to resolve your issue...."<<<<<<
Did you see that bit... "there were no Major Issues reported by customers for the product during the warranty period of these units".
What the ......!, this guy must be on a different planet!!
Anyway, I did ring ring the number given, and as expected got through to a call centre lady somewhere in India, but it is was impossible to discuss the problem with her because I could not understand a word she said. This is all so frustrating and I'm about to throw in the towel, but I'll send them the required information and see what happens. I'll let you know how I get on.
Cheers,
Baz in Oz
I’m Not a happy chap.
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hey all...as the rest of you ive had the same problems w/my dv1000 i am typing to you on this very laptop now....the only reason my 3yr old one still works is because i guess i realized it was a heat problem rt away and have made a small honeywell turbo fan(normally for room cooling not laptops) as my permanent stand for my laptop...as i have tried all the things you have to no avail. also the laptop usb fans are no way cooling enough for this beast they dare to call a laptop....hell if i sat this on my lap id've been castrated by the heat for sure...what apain in the arse this laptop has been..not to mention hp themselves(whole other oprah show in and of itself)....it has worked for me for the last 2 yrs so as long as you put it on a small /.....well big enough to cover the whole bottom of the laptop...fan you will find that it may last a long time... but will never again be able to be called a laptop....i prefer to think of it as the newest generation pc "a piece of sh_t fan top pc"...lol well this is definately a class problem with this laptop and someone with a little time and a few good attorney friends should file a class action lawsuit against this most enept company that chooses to dare and call itself my once beloved HP.... to all my fellow pissed off friends of the dv1000 i hope that this might save a few of you out there some money and time...dont waste anymore money on trying to fix it just go to homedepot and buy you a flat faced turbo indoor fan that you can place it on and a very large duffle bag if you plan on still using it as a laptop to carry your newest and worst invention from HP to date ..."the fantop pc" -
Inappropriate?teeedoff - brilliant! you sound like the perfect visitor for this website i recently found with home made project instructions - www.instructables.com . perhaps you could embarass HP by posting instructions on how to make the HP Fantop PC - that would be a riot.
I’m amused.
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thank you claire it was a moment for me! i was on one of those rolls. =
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ut as with all of our letters of greif and dispair he will laugh his way=
all the way to the bank...oopps if there are any left after Bush leaves=
office( ohh nooo see you are getting me all fired up) but that is for a=
nother big O show..best to you all and i'll keep you informed if i do m=
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thank you claire it was a moment for me! i was on one of those rolls. =
And look now you got me all fired up again i'm going to check out that w=
eb site sounds like a hoot i just might do it...lmao....and send it to t=
he CEO you know thats short for (Customer service Executioner Of hp)...b=
ut as with all of our letters of greif and dispair he will laugh his way=
all the way to the bank...oopps if there are any left after Bush leaves=
office( ohh nooo see you are getting me all fired up) but that is for a=
nother big O show..best to you all and i'll keep you informed if i do m=
ach up some plans for that....lmao again -
thank you claire it was a moment for me! i was on one of those rolls. =
And look now you got me all fired up again i'm going to check out that w=
eb site sounds like a hoot i just might do it...lmao....and send it to t=
he CEO you know thats short for (Customer service Executioner Of hp)...b=
ut as with all of our letters of greif and dispair he will laugh his way=
all the way to the bank...oopps if there are any left after Bush leaves=
office( ohh nooo see you are getting me all fired up) but that is for a=
nother big O show..best to you all and i'll keep you informed if i do m=
ach up some plans for that....lmao again -
thank you claire it was a moment for me! i was on one of those rolls. =
And look now you got me all fired up again i'm going to check out that w=
eb site sounds like a hoot i just might do it...lmao....and send it to t=
he CEO you know thats short for (Customer service Executioner Of hp)...b=
ut as with all of our letters of greif and dispair he will laugh his way=
all the way to the bank...oopps if there are any left after Bush leaves=
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nother big O show..best to you all and i'll keep you informed if i do m=
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Inappropriate?Hello fellow victims , (or should that be Lemmings!)
Here is an update on my efforts to get HP to "come to the party" . Having written a letter of complaint to HP's CEO. I received a reply that they had put a case manager on the job. After several terse emails back and forth between myself and the said case manager, he informed me last night on the phone the HP have agreed to help me get my DV1000 repaired.
HP's offer is that they will forgo the cost of labor etc. and I will be CHARGED ONLY FOR PARTS!!. They have given me the address of a computer repairer not too far from where I live and if I take it to them they will assess the problem and advise HP of the cost of repair. I will take it to this repairer on my next day off to see what they think it will cost for parts. So then, like Susan (above) I need to decide if it is worth spending more money on or just consider it junk and throw it in the recycle bin.
Cheers,
Baz in Oz.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?Ok. I now have a functioning dv1000. But it cost me $210 to get it fixed. The first thing you need to do is to contact hp support about the problem. I know that they wont do anything but you still need to contact them and get the reference number so you can prove that you talked to them already. Next, when they tell you that they are sorry but your dv1000 is out of warranty and the only thing they can do is to give you the address of the service center so you can send it in for repair (and you will have to pay around $400 if you do this at this point). Next, contact the CEO of the company via hp's website email and politely inform him of your issue. They will assign you a case manager and they will contact you in a day or two. Inform them of your issue(s) and see what they will do. All the while, remaining calm. It's real easy to blow up and that won't get you anywhere. Ask them if they can at least meet you half way on the repairs. When you think you have come to the end of your rope, ask nicely to speak to the persons manager. This is how I ended up getting mine repaired for $210. They even sent me a prepaid shipping box to send it out for repair in and prepaid shipping stickers to put on the box when I sent it out for repair. So all in all, I paid $210 to get my dv1000 fixed. The repair paper said that they replaced the motherboard and the heat sink fan. I think the biggest thing you have to know about any laptop is that they create a lot of heat so keep the fan airway cleaned out occasionally. Yes you probably have to take the laptop apart to get this done but there are "how-to" video's online of how to accomplish the task. Hope this helps.
Tony
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?As in TonyT's situation, once I had written to the CEO, a case manager was assigned to me. Although she was very curt, to the point of rudeness, I finally got my hp laptop repaired at half the cost, thanks to the generous offer (cough-cough) made by hp, since my laptop was out of warranty, for only $196, which was half the cost. So, it's been fixed and according to the repair sheet, they fixed my motherboard and the CPU (no extra charge). The hp now resides on my dining table and is accessed only to retrieve info from Outlook or as backup to my Dell (the new computer I bought after hp died), which is very rare. So, that's my story and I'm sticking to it :-). Susan
I’m indifferent.
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Inappropriate?I too own a DV1000. 8 months after purchase it began to overheat. I discovered the CPU fan was not working. Called HP and they said it was under warranty so send it in and we will repair at no cost. I did and all was fine until 8 days after warranty expired and the same thing happens again. It gets so hot it will burn you. Come to find out it wasn't the fan that went bad but a heat sensor I guess was built in on the motherboard. Their solution, replace. the board at my cost for $450. NO WAY!!! I purchased a new Dell Inspiron a few months ago and I love it. I will never buy another HP product, ever!
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Inappropriate?What a Thread! I wish i'd found this website before taking on this computer! I've recently repaired a DV1000 for a friend. It had suffered from random shutting down just after the warranty had expired. So fed up was he that he gave me the remains of this crap notebook to do what i want with. I'd repaired desktops before but never a notebook so i thought i'd give it a go. I got the manual from the internet and got going. I did find that the motherboard had some minor cracking just to the right of the CMOS battery. it didn't look like heat had caused it but it did look like the motherboard had been flexing causing fatigue.I suspected that the internal wireless may not work because of this damage. I was to be proved right. Maybe this notebook is a bit too flexible! I put in a new cmos battery, ditched
the harddrive and put in a pata 160gb one. Loaded in windows and everything worked except the wireless. Eventually i fitted a pci wireless card which sorted the problem. Its been 4 months since the repair and its running faultlessly. i use it everyday with no probs. My friend is not that happy as it was never reliable when he owned it! My advice would be dont throw away your motherboards just yet. Check them for cracks and broken tracks. It may be possible to solder jumper wires to bridge the breaks. Also if your computer is still working dont use it on your lap! It gets too hot. I
may attempt a solder repair to my motherboard to resurrect the on board wireless just to see if it works, the meantime i'll keep you posted on how it performs. I hope you all have some luck with your disappointing purchases.
I’m Steveo
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Inappropriate?K-riste, I can't believe what i'm reading. Are you telling me there are this many people having the same problems as me with this P.O.S. computer? Mine just took a complete crap on me about two weeks ago. Did i forget to mention this is the second time it's happened? Just working away and phhhht, no lights no camera no nothing. Same story from HP, only this time it's $400 instead of the $300 i had to pay the last time to get it sorted out . Or they generously offered to custom build me a new one to the tune of $700 because i qualified for an upgrade? WTF does that mean? Does that mean they recognize there is a problem with this F'd up $1500+ pos computer and they don't want to own up to it so they're gonna try and make it go away by offering to let YOU pay for fixing your problem with an UPGRADE at your own expense? WOW that's mighty white of them i'll tell ya. Anyone had any luck at making enough noise to get them to foot the bill completely on a repair? As they say, the squeeky wheel.
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Inappropriate?SOoo, I wish i found this site sooner.... I spent about 450 dollars on parts to repair it and the time spent... sigh hopeless I see.
I’m FRUSTRATED!
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Inappropriate?jewdy I cannot help you directly with your problem but if your only source of HP assistance is here at getsatisfaction.com, then you should read the note I left at the end of my query. http://is.gd/6b7k
By the way, I was able to visit HP online and submit my models information and spoke in live chat twice until resolved. Very good service and follow up.
PS. bad service from Hp at getsatisfaction.com does not reflect on GS. Unless you report it to GS and the COMPANIES at GS continue to misrepresent their customer service. The only option then for GS to keep it's magnificent reputation would be to delete their service account.
I’m venting!
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i believe that most of us that have come here to get satisfaction to complain have already jumped through many hoops with HP but to no avail. This was our last resort. So, no...I'm not going to 'live chat' with an HP rep as the issue is obviously unresolveable. They should have recalled this product and cleared their name. Everyone makes mistakes. But they have yet to own up to it. Even when you call HP customer service, they say, 'no one has complained about this problem before.' YEAH RIGHT!!! -
Inappropriate?I have the same problem too, I have had the motherboard replaced twice under warranty and then it died two weeks out of warranty, it was escalted through various chanels untill some one at HP called me and said they will fix it as a goodwill gesture. Problem is this is only buying me a few more months untill it dies again . last time I will touch HP gear and will not recomend it to friends
I’m sad
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Inappropriate?Same deal as everyone else. Computer ran well for about almost 2 years... only had to replace a HDD 6 months back, but it ran like brand new after that again, well, at least for awhile. The computer started to lague really bad, and then basically froze. I blew into one of the fan ports and saw a plume come out... so, did a tear down and via compressed air, removed a platoon of dust bunnies from the fan. Put the computer back together and now, click - power down. Let it sit for a bit, powered up... a few minutes go by.. boom, shut down. So.. went from running hot as lava and stalling, to fan running and shut downs.
I probably won't go through anymore heartache or the hassel that you have all gone through for a fix. HP is garbage, and the customer serivce and manufacturer responsability are pathetic. Unless there's a recall / fix of some sort available for these HPs... I've got a Dell Inspiron 2650 that's run without fail for almost 7 years now. Dell is the way to go.
I’m resolved
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Inappropriate?this is rediculous i have not one dv1000 but two that dont work....HP needs to man up and do something about this
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Inappropriate?Hi Everyone,
I posted HP CEO's (Mark Hurd) email form a couple of days ago and I drew his attention to this site.
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/execteam/ema...
I think we should all continue to let him know how we feel about HP.
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Inappropriate?Hey everyone. We already have had 2 dv1000's in the store with this problem and another 1 today.
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Inappropriate?Hi,
Just logged in to give you the final chapter in my own Dv1000 saga.
I was given the option by HP to have my Lappy repaired by a local computer repairer, the deal was that HP would pay the labour cost if I paid for the parts, and they also offered a three month warranty.
The quote I received from them was for a new motherboard at AU$266 plus GST. I thought about this for some time and finally decided to go ahead with the repair because I just could not bring myself to throw the machine into the garbage.
My DV1000 problem was redressed only after I had written a serious letter of complaint to the CEO of Hewlett Packard. It seems as if this is the only way to get a reaction from them.
My laptop is now repaired, but you will most likely hear from me again when the new motherboard breaks down (in just over 3 months from now. You know, just after the warranty expires!)
Cheers to all.
Baz in Oz.
I’m unsure
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Inappropriate?My DV1000 died when it was barely 2 yrs old. It was running till that moment when it abruptly turned off. I removed the battery, power adapter and left them disconnected for a while and then reconnected and powered on and it came back up BRIEFLY before quitting again, never to turn on ever. I bought a replacement motherboard on Ebay and swapped with mine. That fixed it for 6 months! Yesterday it died again with the same exact symptoms as before. Last time I had the problem I had contacted HP and they had quoted me $380 for replacing the mainboard including labor. These days you can get a better laptop for that price. I have another HP a L2000 thats almost the same age but (touch wood) has worked since. When I bought my L2000 my DV was still working fine and I was convinced about HPs. That incidentally was my last HP purchase. Since then I have convinced many of my own clients and my company to avoid buying HPs by narrating to them my experience. This is unacceptable from a $1200 laprop. I WILL continue with my crusade against HP brand on a personal level. My company now mostly buys Lenovo and Dell.
I’m HPNeverAgainEver
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Inappropriate?well, i took advantage of Black Friday here in the states to buy a replacement laptop - my first non-HP laptop - and i 'm glad i finally am able to move on. lol.
got a fantastic deal on a loaded toshiba satellite... hope my experience with that brand is better.
I’m happy to be done with HP!
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Inappropriate?Wow, I have the same issue and it is getting very annoying. I am down to my final option. Buying a new computer. Most likely not a HP.
I first thought it was a heat issue after reading about it online. Then i took the computer apart cleaning the fan and heatsink out, bought a cooling station and.....BAM it still shuts down randomly and often, making a loud static noise when it does.
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Inappropriate?Yep, I'm at the 2.5 year mark, just outside of my 2 year warranty and my hp dv1000 has been switching to battery power even though it is plugged in. It is extremely frustrating especially since I am a college student and I need my laptop to do research and write papers.
I’m very frustrated
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Inappropriate?Hello all,I just found this site and was beginning to think I was the only one with the dv1000 problem. Mine finally died 2 weeks ago and I had to buy a new PC.I have filled out info for a class action alternative to HP's bait and switch Bull>?:"... I would encourage all of you to stay on HP"s ass ...
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Inappropriate?hey, add two more to the list of bad dv1000's. I have one and my sister has one... both have the intermittent shut off issue (though hers was so bad and so frequent that she went out and bout a mac, only to donate her old 1000 to me for parts). HP you have two more unhappy customers. Never buying HP again. Next computer will be a MAC.
I’m fucking angry
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Inappropriate?Same problem for over a year on Pavilion. This is a manufacturer's defect and should be dealt with by HP. Two and a half years ago I too paid a lot of money for what I was assured would be a superior machine for years to come. Computer switches back and forth from ac to battery for no reason. Shipped off to warranty company numerous times. Replaced battery. Replaced ac cord. Blah blah. Warranty is pretty much over so recently took it to an independent computer repair shop who charged me $50 bucks to tell me that something is wrong with my computer and he doesn't know what (innumerable problems with this HP machine by the way, never again). I'm attempting now to diagnose the problem myself. I removed the battery about 30 minutes ago to see if the thing will run solely on a/c without getting all balky again. So far so good. I'm curious to know too if this has something to do with the machine overheating. It seems to happen most often after it's been used for some time. Certainly HP could spend a few days figuring out a solution for this issue.
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Inappropriate?I recently got a hp dv1000 battery from hp dv1000 battery. It work fine. Most of my friends like hp laptops. :)
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bs! or very lucky... i tried it almost everything. replace charger, replace battery, replace fan in the machine, etc. gave up.... if it hasnt happen to you... you'll be back here.. sayin " omg my laptop keeps shuttin offf!" follow up by . " OMg my laptop completly died!" -
After spending several days researching ways to fix my hp dv1000, I finally found this site. I'm sick! Without getting into my story, I can tell you that I have had the exact issues that I hear from everyone else. The question that I have now is, can I ever retrieve my info from my harddrive now? I don't even want to take anymore time trying to figure this mess out, it is causing other issues besides just a computer problem. I will now spend my time researching a new pc and you can believe that it will not be an hp!! Any suggestions are welcome. My main thing is that I need my photos off my hp. All my pics of my kids are on there. I'm just sick about it if it is not possible. Could someone please advise me on what to do from here. Thanks! -
jenn - computer stores sell usb hard drive enclosures for laptop hard drives. you will be able to remove the hard drive from the laptop, put it in the enclosure then connect via USB to another computer. -
jenn - computer stores sell usb hard drive enclosures for laptop hard drives. you will be able to remove the hard drive from the laptop, put it in the enclosure then connect via USB to another computer. -
batteryfast2033 - i promise you that your battery will once again deplete and you will be left with nothing. The reason it works ok now is b/c when it switches from power to battery, it has the battery there as backup. but when your battery dies again, you will surely be disappointed! Keep an eye on the bottom right corner of your screen - if you see that you are switching from power to battery, your problem has NOT been solved. -
Thank you Claire, I can breath again. I haven't started my search for a new laptop yet and not really happy about it either but does anyone have any suggestions that could make the search a bit easier? -
i got a great deal on a toshiba satellite and i'm loving it - as i've already commented the actual fan opening is larger and is placed in a better position so i have had NO overheated problems and i am heavy heavy into CPU intensive apps. no problem with power re: battery/AC either. -
Inappropriate?I too have the same problem with my hp dv1000 lap top. I have tried to contact HP and it is impossible to understand the call representative in the call center. Even though I know I also have the battery that was recalled when I contact the call center I am told it is not one of the batteries recalled.
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Inappropriate?Mark another down for faulty dv1000. My laptop has overheating problems and constantly cycles between DC and on Battery power states and occasionally the random shutdown due to overheating. This has been going on for around 2 years now probably. I remember reading somewhere it was due to overheating and the DC power jack solder melting and could be fixed by soldering a new jack onto the motherboard. Before I realized this I ordered a new battery in an attempt to fix the problem at the price of 70$ which was absolutely no help. By this point I see no reason to dump anymore money into this piece of junk machine or in HP in general. Once I get fed up with this or the machine finally dies im going to do some serious research into a decent netbook as a replacement.
I am seriously hoping for some form of action from HP though I doubt we will see any considering the age of the product. I hope the class action lawsuit has some results because HP is at extreme fault here and they are taking no responsibility at all.
This is just another example of a scumbag corporation being run by scumbags looking out for their scumbag corporate interests. I am sorry HP but you have lost not just me as a customer but I sincerely hope many more until you address this problem earnestly and not just offering ridiculous discounts on over priced repairs.
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Inappropriate?this does not make any sense. I have been working on my daughters DV1000 for three weeks. We noticed that when we boot up the lights all work fine on the keyboard but nothing on the screen BUT after 15 minute or more it start to boot into windows other times it could take a day or more.
Maybe it is time for a class action law suit? There is a battery recall I haven't tried to get a replacement yet but I will so it will at least cost them something for this lack of customer service and very poor product support.
There is not one word of this problem on the HP support website I think they hope everyone will just give up. We will and never by HP again.
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Inappropriate?My HP DV1000 custom ordered, upgraded laptop, over $1600, died for good months ago. Before this, it did the same as most others with the same complaint and shut down constantly, sometimes doing nothing. I only traveled with this laptop once, over two years ago. It sat on a desk as my home computer. I tried using cooling fans to no avail. What really irks me is to find out that this is due to a manufacturing defect and that HP is not stepping up to the plate. I found all this info about HP's bad faith by accident, looking for possible solutions to the problems.
I did sign up for the Class Action also. I am with all of you who will warn all consumers to beware of HP products on review sites of HP products, because they will not fix their mistakes, and often make them from what I have read. I can tolerate a mistake, but not a company who does not step up to the plate and act honorably to fix them.
To charge to fix a problem, only guarantee that iffy fix for 3 months, and to still ended up with a LEMON is really unconscionable of HP. HP has burned these people twice. How can anyone trust them?
I should think that HP would want to make good on all of these failed products. In the end, it will be much cheaper than the bad Public Relations they are creating.
It's time to pay attention to why DELL has good customer service ratings. I was fooled by some report that HP had improved. Wish I would have bought the DELL, like my friends, whose computers still run just great.
My mom's $250 E-Machine is seven years old and has never had a problem. I learned that it was their company policy to build solid machines so they didn't loose money on problem computers. What a concept!
So HP, what say you?
I’m frustrated
I’m frustrated
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I also came across this site by accident while searching for a solution for my LEMON. Would you please post the information to sign up for the Class Action so that I don't have to go through these infuriating messages again. Thank you! -
Hi Jenn,
This is the link I found for a current potential Class Action. I think this is the lawfirm who won a previous Class Action against HP. I enrolled but have not had confirmation from this law firm. I am guessing that they need many applicants to move forward on this. Please sign up. And if anyone here has better info, please post! Also, I think everyone should keep these dead lemon computers in the hopeful event that a lawsuit moves forward. Unless, of course, HP accepts accountability for their disposable, short-life, laptops.
http://www.sfmslaw.com/pages/cases.ph...
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Hi again Jenn,
Are you the Jenn who needed to try an adapter for your harddrive? I'm going to try the same thing. I was lucky, because my cousin told me she had backed up her pics on two external harddrives, but one had failed. Due to the increasing shutdown of my computer, I thought I better get all my pics backed up on an external harddrive. I am so glad that I did. In the future, I highly recommend you have your precious photos on two external harddrives. I'm also making CD Backups kept at another location for extra insurance. My child's life is on them! Oh, I recommend CD's versus DVD's because they have a much longer archive life. Even though it takes longer and you will have more CD's. But, it's worth it! Let me know if you've been able to save your photos. I read your earlier post when I first found this place, and I really felt sick to my stomach for you, since I can totally relate!
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Yes Manny, I'm the same one. Sorry it takes me awhile to reply but because I don't have a working computer at home (thanks to HP), I am only able to access at work. Thank you for the information, I will login to that site as soon as I get a chance. I haven't bought that adapter yet because I am waiting to save up the money for a new laptop so I can have something to transfer my files to. Because my computer doesn't turn on at all, I hope I still have a chance of saving my pictures. Anyway, I will start researching that again when I get to that point. I will also take your advise on saving my pictures on an external harddrive. Right now I'm just trying to be patient while I save up a little bit more for a brand new one and I can gaurentee that it won't be an HP! -
Yes Manny, I'm the same one. Sorry it takes me awhile to reply but because I don't have a working computer at home (thanks to HP), I am only able to access at work. Thank you for the information, I will login to that site as soon as I get a chance. I haven't bought that adapter yet because I am waiting to save up the money for a new laptop so I can have something to transfer my files to. Because my computer doesn't turn on at all, I hope I still have a chance of saving my pictures. Anyway, I will start researching that again when I get to that point. I will also take your advise on saving my pictures on an external harddrive. Right now I'm just trying to be patient while I save up a little bit more for a brand new one and I can gaurentee that it won't be an HP! -
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Inappropriate?i have the same issues with the people posted above, I EMAILED ALL CEO'S stating that their product SUCKS ASS! i feel a little better now... I'm gonna smash this sucker when the sun comes up. This is going to be the last HP product i'm buying!!!
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KEEP THE EVIDENCE! Use the dead, disposable laptop for a doorstop or something. In the meantime, sign up for this Class Action Lawsuit. I'm guessing this law firm needs many complaints to prove this is a product defect. Here's the link. Check back here in the event there is more info on the progress of this. Thanks HP SUX!
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Inappropriate?PLEASE FILE YOUR COMPLAINT WITH THIS LAWFIRM! (They also show up as a paid advertiser when you google HP DV1000 + lawsuit) I want to also let this lawfirm know that I do not agree that any credit toward another HP Laptop is acceptable compensation with a company who has a pattern of not correcting it's product defects without a court order. Shame on HP.
Stay vigilant everyone and check back on this page. We can complain, but to actively protest HP products on product review sites will deter some from taking a risk with a product that might not work a year or two years from now. I don't think HP discloses that it is a coin toss that their products might be disposable, not built to survive long, and that any defect will be denied. Potential consumers need to be informed of the risk that if their HP product develops a defect shared by many, that HP will not step up to the plate and be accountable for it. Therefore, they cannot count on any longevity of their major purchase and should know that in two or three years time that they may become yet another one of us HP Burned Consumers. Remember the good reviews you found on the DV1000 before purchasing it?
Once again, I can tolerate a defect but not a company that doesn't act honorably and with integrity when that defect is so blatantly brought to their attention by so many. I'm fighting back. If you google "HP DV1000" + problems, you'll get over 340,000 hits!
HP Pavilion Class Action
Do you want to file a complaint
concerning your HP Notebook?
www.sfmslaw.com
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Thanks for posting this!!! I just filled out the info for the lawsuit. Keep us posted when you find out! :) -
Inappropriate?I've had the same problem with my fully loaded dv1000 laptop ($2,700). HP's history of poor service, coupled with an inferior product and reputation will not let my good conscious purchase anything further from this company.
I had a 3 year full coverage warranty on my HP, and had to send it in for the same problem at least once a year. The last time I sent it in was right before the warranty expired, and 3 months later the entire thing completely quits on me yet again (it won't turn on anymore). The problem is that HP only guarantees their supposed "repairs" for 3 months. Their customer "support" was useless, and I spoke to a supervisor/case manager who was even less helpful than the call center in India.
To anyone reading this, I'd be highly suspect of any "customers" trying to convince you to give HP another chance. In this economy, a business that treats their customers as second rate will not succeed. I forgive you for your ignorance HP, but I will not buy another inferior product from you...and neither will any of my friends, neighbors, co-workers, business associates or anyone I come into contact with. Apparently, there are too many players in the game and HP is ensuring one less.
I’m frustrated at HP's inferior product & service
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Inappropriate?I'll just go ahead and check in with you guys. I bought mine about 4 years ago in Costco. It must have been sitting around a while because when it messed up the first time I had to fight to prove it was in warranty. I loved HP and always used their product but I will never do it again. I am in the Philippines now as a missionary. Last year the hard drive crashed. Okay, you live with it. Now I have this shut down problem which really isn't a problem anymore as it quit working entirely.
Perhaps someone who has a law degree should start a class action suit against the company. What frustration.
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?I'm having the same problem as all of you. I bought my dv1000 3 years ago, 1 year of it has been spent with this laptop in the corner as dead weight. I bought a new laptop since then, but I decided to open it up today to see if I could fix the problem. I've isolated the issue to a power problem with the motherboard. Someone in a previous thread had pointed out that there is a pending lawsuit against HP rescheduled to June 2, 2009 claiming that they hid information about a faulty motherboard. It is DEFINITELY related to the DC power and a faulty soldering job that prevents the power from being passed through. Well if my surgery doesn't work, I managed to salvage a few memory sticks, a hard drive, a CD/DVD ROM and a perfectly good working LCD screen!
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Inappropriate?Alrighty Folks.... I repair computers for a living, I have seen many cases of these dv1010us systems shutdown, loose all button and touchpad function, loose the screen... I fix the shut down at random problem in a few simple steps.. open the computer, clean the inside with canned air, remove the heatsink fan from the processor... clean the grease paste off the heatsink with a razor blade. Apply NEW heatsink grease to the heat sink. Remount the heatsink and fan, put computer back together and Whala it will last you many years. The screen issue... remove the screen straighten the wire out really nice, take the 2 twists out of it, put machine back together, u should be good unless the bulb went out. As far as the over heating and shutting off or not starting up beleave it or not its just a pea size ball of grease bumming you out. This is by far one of the nicest older machines I get in my shop. Keep in mind this unit was assembled in a rush for black friday in 2005, It is my guess that the batch of grease they used was not thick enough or not applied properly in the assembly process as this is a common issue with the late november and december production dv1010us machines. I'm not trying to defend HP but --it happens with any black friday computer. The 1010us also was put on the market well before its time, try finding another machine from that period that was that thin. ( you cant ) Aneeways.. good luck and remember one thing out of all this... DON'T BUY BLACK FRIDAY PRODUCTS.
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Gotta say - I paid 2 bucks for a tube of grease at the local computer shop today to give trupatrio's advice a shot... 2 bucks, why not? I flipped the laptop over, removed the battery and then took out every screw facing up. The grey plastic backing came off with a tiny bit of coaxing. I unscrewed the fan and heatsink. Then, I removed a band-aid looking thing that looked like it was coated with dried grease from the base of the cooling fan, and also removed a small square of tin foil that had more dried paste - threw both away. I put a dab of grease on both contact points, and screwed the heat sink and fan back down. I can say that the computer has been up for over an hour now. I'll post back in a day or so for follow-up.*the fan still seems to come on and off completely at it's own desire... despire high heat and sluggish performance. Trupatriot any thoughts on that? -
Inappropriate?"Keep in mind this unit was assembled in a rush for black friday in 2005..."
Not 2004? I bought mine in 2004.
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Inappropriate?Well my DV1000 finally bit the dust the other day. The machine will not turn on unless it is plugged into a power source, and will then suffer random shut downs. I took the hdd out for use as an external and am shelving the machine.
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Inappropriate?it's definitely MORE stable so far... it did turn off over night. The fan seems to be the issue - if only I could find a solution to keep it turned on all of the time... hmmm. I'm going to look into a software solution... The heat sink on these things is really pathetic... and the tiny fan doesn't help.
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Inappropriate?Some more food for thought - System Bios version 22 caused my computer to immediately over heat and shut down. When I downgraded to Version 12 (Via the HP download page...) it became stable again. Though - the fan still seems to not be working. The system definitely produced more heat under the newer system bios... odd. Anyone else feel like giving that a shot and seeing if it makes any difference... the bios version I mean.
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Inappropriate?I've got the samp problem with my dv1000. What have you found out to date about yours? My laptop won"t power up and I have a bne battery and power cord. Is there a overheat switch inside. I was charging it up in my hospital room and it was real hot in the room, I think it could have got to hot. Please help, thanks ben
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Inappropriate?Hi Folks,
I run a small pc & laptop repair business in my area and this is what i did in an attempt to repair this what they call laptop.
....HP DV1000
Some time back i had one of these in for repair same problem(customer didnt want it back - who can blame him) - random shutdown - won't power up on mains or battery will sit for hours/days like this before restarting,so here's what i had done:
1.test power supply - ok.
2.tried to power on with battery & psu - you know the answer.
3.stripped the laptop(cleaned heatsink + fan - refitted) - to the top base with mboard,mem,cpu/hs/fan in situ - powered up no problem,refit,screw down,worked fine the bam went again.
4.updated bios - still the same.
5.stripped again - and again and again,this was getting beyond a joke ( all this in spare time) anyway yesterday i did the same thing all over this time removing silver heat pad and refit with thermal heat paste,result temparature very good 38 - 41 C.incidently this was not an overheating problem in this case anyway.
6.laptop was on for a good 2 hours just letting it idle,didnt screw base down,shut it off last night,this morning powered it on with battery - nothing - adapter nothing.
now comes the crunch,so i thought lets have another look,ok here's what i found,this may not be the answer (although the laptop has been on shutdown,powered on,shutdown etc for some time,it's still on as im typing this) i removed the base cover once more and sat back and looked at the motherboard now what i found was this,part of the motherboard was bent/warped the exact place was(turn laptop so that you are looking at the mainboard,there is right beside the RJ45 LAN/RJ11 SOCKETS a small metal/silver plate with 4 screws on this plate is a lip,this was actually sitting under part of the mainboard as opposed to holding that part in place causing it to lift coupled with this on refitting the base plastics would put more pressure on that part of the board,now i do not know if this laptop has been apart before,i do know the customer took it to the tech guys!!!!!!!!! great move...only for them to remove the battery(of course when fitting it powerd up,yes then died and they charged hiim for this...you gotta laugh.
At this point the laptop has been on for a good 30 minutes + i have restarted it a few times and now have decided to shut it down to which i will leave for a good hour or so then i will see what happens and i will get back to you with an update.good luck.
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Inappropriate?Hi just a quick update to the above,several hours later a few twists and turns,shutting down,restart and plugging in adapter etc ..no problems as of yet so it's looking good..i also left it off overnight and this morning powered it up and yep it started up so seems as though that may have been the problem in this case.
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Inappropriate?Hello, DV1000 victims,
http://www.sfmslaw.com/pages/cases.ph...
I have joined a class action action case vs. HP regarding this problem.
HP finally took my computer back a few months ago and claimed that
the problem was mine and isolated. They could fix my laptop for 4 or 5 hundred bucks.
This case has been filed and you may file online see link above.
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Inappropriate?Has anyone heard from this firm? I filed the class action case and I haven't heard a peep from anyone. I just got upset all over again when I got my laptop out of the closet just to see if by chance something may work on it but to no avail.
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Inappropriate?I have same thing with my laptop and did hear from them. I called into firm and got a call back. They said hold onto everything, paperwork, pc, even make a timeline of events that happened.
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Inappropriate?it could take a year or more before things are settled, so breathe easy, be patient. :)) !!!
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Inappropriate?Hello, My hp computer died just today. Turned it on hdd didn't light up. Couldn't get in bios. The service guy (Indian) told me it was a bad mother board. He also told me it was my fault it broke due to overuse.... I don't know what to do.... i wanna send the pc to get fixed but know the same shit is gonna happen again. I even spoke with a supervisor (Indian) He was a dick.
I’m Sad and confused
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Inappropriate?I had the exact same problem as everyone else. It just died; I wish I had seen this site before I sent it out for repair!
I’m pissed off
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Inappropriate?There is a pending class action complaint against various HP laptops, including the dv model. Go to the following site, read class action complaint, and enter your information: Law firm Shepard, Finkelman,Miller & Shah, LLP
www.sfmslaw.com
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Inappropriate?Meabe you should consider buying a Macbook or Macbook Pro from Apple.
They have international warranties and you can easily add an Applecare support for 3 years for very little money when you buy the product.
Apple has hundreds of Apple Stores all over the world and you can plan a meeting to any of there store to get help and repair via the Genius Bar.
I don't know of any PC vendor that offers that level of help. Dell as a quasy stores but they only sell products (to my knowledge) and I have known HP product for years and there is no concept of an HP store.
Have a peek at Apple they run very well (even better to many) Vista and Windows XP (if that is what you really want).
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Inappropriate?HI guys
i had the same problem with my dv1000
i removed the bios battery for 10 min and after i restart the laptop
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Inappropriate?Your computer is out of warranty. I'm amazed it lasted over twice as long as the warranty! Any computer made by a big company like HP is shit.
I have an HP dv5z CTO-1200 which overheats like mad. I sent 173 emails (back and forth) with HP and after a month and a half, got escalated to a case manager.
The case manager is ungrateful, but I got a replacement.
And it's in warranty.
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Inappropriate?Random shutdowns started happening to mine, too - about 3 years after new purchase in spring 2005. It shuts down sometimes after 10 minutes, sometimes after 10 hours. At first it only happened infrequently (weeks). In the last month or two, it happens 2-8 times a day if I'm using it.
Tried to mitigate it by blowing an external fan on it. It's inconclusive how well that works, partly because I was not always consistently blowing the fan on it. I'm not yet convinced it's a heat issue vs. a possible power problem (voltage drop or similar).
As for the lawsuit, I'd say that it's probably unreasonable to expect HP to repair 3+ year old laptops that are out of warranty at their cost. What I would expect is that they do a little research, isolate the bug, document it publicly, and publish a fix (if a reasonable one is available) that repair shops or individuals could apply. If a lawsuit gets them to do that, the
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