Delta and NWA merger settlement

I have no money on this market and I feel it should be settled when announce that the merger has taken place, contrary to skipper's position.
Lot's of mergers, takeovers, etc., are announced, but some don't get done.
So, the question is "will (they) merge", not "when will they announce", with all good intentions, etc.

So, when the pictures are flashing, and another stock ticker bites the dust, that's when they are merged. jmho

I think we would have to apply whatever outcome is decided to this market as well ...

http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Who_wi...

the problem with spitzer was he announced his resig but said it was official on the monday..if they announce it then it should go through but if they say it is going through pending the approval of the pilot situation then it should not until the pilots approve..if mergers announcements arent going to be enough to settle these then people wont bet on them because now we are saying mergers are announced but may never be actually done or they shouldnt bother putting suspend dates...this is just my opinion but i think these should be settled unless there is a stipulation attatched and then that stipulation would have to be met for settlement..if there is not a mention of the need for pilot approval then they are proceeding anyway..whatever the outcome i hope it is resolved quickly and doesn't linger and will be consistently applied across the board

I can announce I'm going to the moon tomorrow - doesn't mean I'll do it.

Mergers in this environment are not guaranteed to be completed, especially with the way the airline industry is going. Unless it's announced as complete by June 1, this should settle NO.

if the boards and the companies are announcing the merger what more guarantees do we want?..what if there is a merger and then somebody sues like the shareholders or something?..the merger of a company could always have something come up...not only in this case but others..if they said we are merging in may then i would say no i guess if we are spitzering (is that what we established?)..these questions continue to cause problems because there is always a "what if" attacthed..we cant plan for every contingency and this is the type of thing taking away the fun and the purpose of this i think..it should be a fun game with common sense settlements and if something changes then settlements can change..whatever the ruling is as i said b4 whoever the rep is just decide what u think is best asap and lets move on with a way for these things to be settled without relying totally on the question creator because if they are new they may not undestand all these specifics we r asking for in the details..with 5,000 users there are bound to be different versions of common sense which is y the establishment of a protocal is important but we seem to be working on learning from past episodes and working on eliminating or at least cutting down on repeating them..i hope..)

Announcing an event officially should settle all questions. Things can ALWAYS change in the future - but we can't wait 3 years for delta and northwest to complete a merger. Settle the question as a Yes and if someone wants to post a new question saying "will the delta and northwest merger fail" then do that. It's a different question,

http://www.kutv.com/content/news/loca...

Delta Air Lines Will Take Over Northwest, Become World's Largest Carrier

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A Delta Airlines jet departs Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport in Atlanta Monday, April 14, 2008. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)
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A Delta Airlines jet departs Hartsfield Jackson Atlanta International Airport in Atlanta Monday, April 14, 2008. (AP Photo/John Bazemore)
SALT LAKE CITY - Delta Air Lines has reached an agreement with Northwest Airlines to take over Northwest and create the world's biggest carrier.

The boards of both companies gave the deal the go-ahead Monday. Delta said the combined airline will be based in Atlanta and will retain its name. Delta CEO Richard Anderson will head the combined company.

The announcement comes a year after the two carriers emerged from Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection. Both carriers are losing money again but are in much better shape than the four much-smaller airlines that have filed for bankruptcy or gone out of business in recent weeks.

The joining of Delta and Northwest, if approved by regulators, will result in combined annual revenue of $31.7 billion, vaulting it ahead of American Airlines for the top spot in the U.S.

Delta would be the biggest carrier in the world in terms of traffic, before any further domestic capacity cuts and any divestitures that might be required by antitrust regulators.

Salt Lake City mayor Ralph Becker on Monday expressed great enthusiasm toward the merger, saying that Delta has been an important company in Utah for many years.

Congratulations to Delta and Northwest on this new chapter in their history. We have appreciated Delta's presence here in our capital city," Becker said in a statement Monday.
Northwest Airlines planes dominate the runways at the Minneapolis St. Paul International Airport in Minneapolis, Monday, April 14, 2008. (AP Photo/Andy King)
Northwest Airlines planes dominate the runways at the Minneapolis St. Paul International Airport in Minneapolis, Monday, April 14, 2008. (AP Photo/Andy King)

"I am hopeful Salt Lake City can continue to partner with Delta to enhance our historically strong relationship and address concerns of the airline employees and our airport that may arise during the merger process," he added. "I see this as a great opportunity for Salt Lake City to further share our great resources, from our beautiful natural setting to our increasingly cosmopolitan city, with the rest of the world."

The agreement comes after several months of merger discussions between Delta and Northwest and at one time between Delta and United Airlines. Analysts believe a Delta-Northwest combination will stand up better to regulatory scrutiny because the two carriers have less overlap, even though a Delta-United combination could create more scale and have greater synergies.

Years of mounting losses forced Delta and Northwest to file for bankruptcy protection in New York on Sept. 14, 2005. Both emerged from bankruptcy as leaner carriers last spring, after shedding billions in costs during their reorganizations.

While in bankruptcy, Delta fended off a hostile takeover bid by US Airways.

Delta said its plan to remain on its own would create more value than US Airways' $9.8 billion bid, which Delta argued would not pass regulatory hurdles.

Northwest and Delta overlap relatively little in the U.S. — which could actually help them gain antitrust approval. Delta's routes are strongest in the eastern U.S. and to Latin America and Europe. Northwest would complement that with its near-lock in the Midwest along with flights to its Tokyo hub and other points in Asia.

99.9..what does that mean?..if there is one group out of all the groups involvd in this deal not agreeing to it does that mean 99.9 are?..are we saying that less than 99.9 of these mergers get done?..once again 99.9 means something different to everybody...to me settling the swayze question didnt make sense days b4 but it did to somebody who thought that was 99.9 despite a fast moving cancer type and a situation where any info released could have been misleading..i dont know but i would have thought we had a way of answering this by now i guess

@scottay ...
"but we can't wait 3 years for delta and northwest to complete a merger. "
we don't have to. We only have to wait until June 1st, 2008. Then, if the merger has been completed, we have a 'yes'. if not, we have a 'no'.

Pretty simple, eh?

I cashed in and took my gains - which were much less than expected.

You have a serious problem here. Common sense is not being followed.

The question was will they merge by June. Clearly the person who made the question was referring to an announcement and not a completion.

That's how the question should have been decided.

Once again you have let the "spitzer" group convince you of something that is against the total grain of common sense.

FYI you should have settle this based on what I said above and THEN made a new rule.

I disagree completely. The questioner wanted to know if there would be a merger by June. He meant announcement.

I am a mind reader. You've found me out.

Common sense. Why would you create a question with a timeline for a merger to be complete without SAYING that THE MERGER MUST BE COMPLETE.

Actually I have a blog http://icantseeyou.typepad.com/. I started it with a post about HubDub a few months ago. If you want my advice you can send me an email to icantseeyou@comcast.net. I'll decide anything you wish :>

Hello HD...

I have no wagers on this market.

But I do have 20+ years experience in the airline industry and have been involved, personally and professhionally in multiple airline mergers, acquisitions, marketing linkages and dissolutions of ties between airlines, these are my points of reference.

Although I infer that the original author was speculating between a couple of potential merger partners for Delta; Northwest and United Airlines... the exact wording of the short question has lent itself to a variety of considerations. My personal opinion is that to settle for a yes there will need to be a suspension of stock trading by either Delta or Northwest Airlines stock prior to 12:01am on July 1st. United+Delta will not happen during the month of June.

Although many airline mergers are imagined, some are announced, less actually occur; various work groups and Congressional oversight have the ability, and history has proven, to disrupt this process.

Perhaps a better, more precise way to create these kinds of questions would be to say something like: "Announcement from boards of airlines X & Y w/ intent 2 merge within a 24 hours period by 7/1/08?" or "Will stocks of airline X or Y no longer be sold due to merger by 7/1/08?".

Those are my thoughts.