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Is a editorial considered a report in a newspaper?
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I've recently received a settlement request on this market: http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_a...
The problem we have is that the "Montana secession" thing was reported, but it was reported in a editorial by a reader of the paper and not a writer for the paper. Here's a link to the editorial:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/p...
So what we have to decide is what we consider a report and what we don't. For context we should remember that comments on a story on CBS from users aren't reports but postings from the individual users not employed by CBS. But in opposition to this point, the Washington Times decided to publish this letter in their paper, so is it considered a report?
Thanks for the help in the settlement, this one can prove to be tricky. Also cheers to dieseldog for sending me the settlement request.
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Ryan
Hubdub US Politics Content Editor
I've recently received a settlement request on this market: http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_a...
The problem we have is that the "Montana secession" thing was reported, but it was reported in a editorial by a reader of the paper and not a writer for the paper. Here's a link to the editorial:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/p...
So what we have to decide is what we consider a report and what we don't. For context we should remember that comments on a story on CBS from users aren't reports but postings from the individual users not employed by CBS. But in opposition to this point, the Washington Times decided to publish this letter in their paper, so is it considered a report?
Thanks for the help in the settlement, this one can prove to be tricky. Also cheers to dieseldog for sending me the settlement request.
Regards,
Ryan
Hubdub US Politics Content Editor
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I can't even believe this got escalated. An editoral is not a news report. My paper will print editorials from anyone that can send one in, regardless how idiotic they may be. That doesn't mean they are reporting the news of the upcoming proposed event. Common sense would support that editorials are not news reporting.
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Inappropriate?I can't even believe this got escalated. An editoral is not a news report. My paper will print editorials from anyone that can send one in, regardless how idiotic they may be. That doesn't mean they are reporting the news of the upcoming proposed event. Common sense would support that editorials are not news reporting.
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Inappropriate?Since anyone can submit an editorial, that shouldn't count as news- it's an opinion, not fact. I trust you to do well by all this.
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Inappropriate?Yea, an editorial =/= (does not equal) a report
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Inappropriate?Ok seeing as the respondents are wanting to let the market run. I'm reopening it. I will also talk to other Hubdub staff about how editorials are used for settlement.
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Inappropriate?late to the party and there's no beer but... editorial are not "mainstream news sources" or generally to be considered as factual sources. News of course isn't a factual source either sometimes, but in order to run the boat we gotta agree on something. In fact, I think the racism exit polling question could have been settled with mainstream news sources, but nobody was interested and that interesting question was voided. It should have been allowed to run, and mainstream news sources should have been allowed to decide its outcome.
As usual, everyone decided to debate in comments what should have been decided by the media, which is the original mandate of the site. I don't give a shit what other people on Hubdub think about a question, I just want the media to decide it. My answers are predicated on what the media will report, not on what I think. If the world did what I wanted, then everyone would be wearing pyjamas or a bathrobe and drinking morning coffee at 1pm.
Stick to mainstream news sources, and all will be good. Start accommodating other sources, and your in a dark place with no phone, lighter, ciggies or fresh underwear.
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Inappropriate?I got an email that this concerned the question I created as well...
An editorial sent in by a reader is not a report. An editorial written by someone one staff and published as an article or column is, as it will at least be fact checked before printing (hopefully). Anyhow that's what i say. -
Inappropriate?I agree with the above people on this. Editorials are not reports.
I don't know if anyone else has seen the recent NYT article "Behind TV Analysts, Pentagon’s Hidden Hand" on the weekend. It basically shows how a significant number of "military experts" who appeared as commentators on most of the major networks and cable news channels during the earlier phases of the Iraq War were actively guided in their positions by the Pentagon.
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/20/was...
They are retired armed forces people (independent from the military and not subject to rules about speaking to the media, but "expert" in that they have served, know the issues and entities involved, and possibly have active connections and information sources within the forces). Their job, for which the media organization pays them an appearance fee, is to put the news in perspective from a militarily knowledgeable point of view, and this point of view is implied to be their own (and not their former employer's).
Turns out the Pentagon had an expensive program to guide these commentators in talking points and angles, giving them high-level access (to Rumsfeld and Cheney) in exchange for putting out the Pentagon's ideas or spin as their own.
Why did so many go along with this? Well it turns out that most of them are lobbyists for or owners/employees of companies intending to do business with the Pentagon. The access to the Pentagon and White House upper-levels was effectively the way that they were paid by the administration for putting out White House-approved talking points as their own expert opinion.
It's a really interesting (though long) article, and I highly recommend it.
It illustrates exactly why ANY editorial comments, even by the staff of the media organization, should not be construed as reportage.
That doesn't mean a person here can't ask a question about an editorial. Just that printing an editorial is not included in the list of things that are understood to be "reporting".
I’m disturbed by how many freedoms we have to give up to defend freedom
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