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Once more for the BIGGEST problem and the GREATEST defect and flow of Hubdub
I've said this in several occasions, but I will not be tired to repeat it until the problem disappears.
The BIGGEST problem and the GREATEST defect and flow of Hubdub is the late settlement of the questions, when the settlement is due.
It is normal and understandable the delay of some settlement to be 2-3 or even 4 and more hours, especially if this is in the middle of the night where admins (or editors) are.
But it is NOT normal if the delay extend over 8 to 10 to 12 and more hours (and sometimes a days), which is a heavy relapse in many occasions.
This is not normal even when the settlement requires some profound or time-eating research or reading.
But this continue to happen and in various categories.
With the growing of Hubdub and the growing community of users, this will become more and more problematic.
There must be editors on permanent duty and working on a shifts. A full interchangeability may also help.
We are invited to participate and play. We are promised of a prompt in a reasonable limits settlement. We are in the rights to expect this.
The delay in the settlement eliminate a great part of the pleasure of all of this.
Something - whatever it is - should and must be done. And - wishfully - quickly.
The BIGGEST problem and the GREATEST defect and flow of Hubdub is the late settlement of the questions, when the settlement is due.
It is normal and understandable the delay of some settlement to be 2-3 or even 4 and more hours, especially if this is in the middle of the night where admins (or editors) are.
But it is NOT normal if the delay extend over 8 to 10 to 12 and more hours (and sometimes a days), which is a heavy relapse in many occasions.
This is not normal even when the settlement requires some profound or time-eating research or reading.
But this continue to happen and in various categories.
With the growing of Hubdub and the growing community of users, this will become more and more problematic.
There must be editors on permanent duty and working on a shifts. A full interchangeability may also help.
We are invited to participate and play. We are promised of a prompt in a reasonable limits settlement. We are in the rights to expect this.
The delay in the settlement eliminate a great part of the pleasure of all of this.
Something - whatever it is - should and must be done. And - wishfully - quickly.
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Inappropriate?Hi Orlin, having spoken to many of our regular users we realize that settlement problems are high on the list frustrations. We've since placed the improvement of this process at the top of our priority list.
1. We're currently working on a feature that allows trusted users to suspend questions when they send in a settlement request. This will prevent other users cashing in their incorrect predictions before we settle.
2. We want to allow the same trusted users to settle questions, subject to some contraints still being worked out. This will enable far more rapid settlements, as they will be more settlers available in a number of time zones.
We're looking forward to releasing these improvements and seeing their impact on the timeliness of settlements. In the meantime, I'd ask you to be patient and accept our apologies for any settlements that you feel should have been performed sooner.
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Inappropriate?This is not satisfactory and is far very general.
I speak on when the result of the settlement is clear, but the settlement is not given for an uncomprehensibly extended period of time.
Here are only two examples.
The question is http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_M...
Regardless the suspend date, according to the rules, time applied should be local time, because this is a strictly local event and very well covered by all the world mainstream news sources especially in England, BBC has an everyday story on these elections.
The local time in Zimbabwe is GMT+3 which means that the question is not settled for more than 19 hours by now. What we are waiting for? Everything is clear and a simple "NO" must be given, not so much time I suppose. Even with the PST suspend date, 8 hours of delay for settelment of this question is far too more.
And another example. The question -
http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Pope__...
is reffering to an event which happened almost 24 hours ago, Sunday afternoon in New York. Not enough the question is not yet settled, but it is even not suspended and is with an open date. And it is choosen to be one of the 'representative' questions which appears at the top of the front page. And it appears - a full day after everything is clear and long after the question should be settled and already forgotten. Of course, I can still cash in, but it wouldn't solve the problem.
This is not a problem of lack of time or not yet power users implemented.
Btw, in my opinion this is not a good idea and will only drastically increase the dissatisfaction. The "Spitzer" story will be a game of children in comparison with the storm of disagreements on who is right then. -
Inappropriate?I'm not sure the trusted or "power" users group is such a hot idea. I think there are a lot of trustworthy users, but if anything is settled in a way that appears to be questionable everybody would be up in arms. Maybe a group of users could be defined as Junior Admins (or whatever name) and they as a group collectively settle a question, sort of a check-and-balance system where if there is a disagreement an admin ultimately has to settle. Also, the junior settlement group would do it not knowing who the other junior admins are so as not to affect the outcome, and maybe it's a random 25% of the group settling. I know it seems complicated but would provide the hubdubbers a feeling of trust while still settling questions as fast as possible.
I’m sticking my tounge out, duh!
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Inappropriate?I have been very vocal in my calling for the power user system to be rolled out. I however do not think that power users should settle questions. We have rules in place that don't allow category editors to wager on questions in thier category, so I don't think we should allow power users to settle questions. I think the settlement issue can be sped up by allowing power users to suspend and send questions to category editors for settlement. I think giving a very small group of users the power to suspend questions, approve questions before they go live, and send questions to category admins for settlement will greatly enhance the playing experience.
I also agree that all questions in which a settlement request is sent should be alerted to admins, and that admins should have shifts when they monitor those requests. As the number of markets increases and the amount of questions needing settlement increases, we are going to have to expand the number of category editors. Having category editors spread over different time zones would greatly enhance this experience.
I’m confident things will improve
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this solves the problem
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Inappropriate?I agree with Destry. Also, Orlin's point about the potential to unleash the power of a thousand thousand Spitzers is right on target.
I think, as the number of questions increases, you may need more admins or editors.
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this solves the problem
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