Proposition 3-17 - only 757,000 more signatures needed!!! but not according to Hubdubpro

Hi Tisha.. it's midnight now here in Tokyo, and I just hopped online, signed the peitition, and that site listed 243,915 signatures. (so its going up as I type this...) I guess its possible the servers handling asia for this website haven't been updated this weekend hence the difference. Still... something seems wrong. If proposition 3-17 did get a million signatures, wouldn't it be a news item by now? This means St Paddy's day would go before the Congress to be considered as a legit public holiday. The site lists the number of people who have signed it - I think it's only necessary to sign in the birthdate to access the page that lists the number of people who have signed. It shouldn't matter where you access the website - the information should reflect globally the same information, unless of course there's been a local hack (which won't reflect globally).

Tisha, can we leave this open for a few days? Something isn't adding up - perhaps the servers need to "update" my end (but I doubt this is the problem). Wouldn't it be news if it was successful? Could we have other sources verifying this outcome?

What do you think?

I mailed a friend in Texas, he checked online and it now lists 249,481.

I'd like the questioned resettled as "no".

http://proposition317.com/stpats.html

do I detect a whiff of the "google server type of question" difficulty here?

Hell, there's a good little story in this for sure! 1.7M?

Thanks Tisha! Let's see how that pans out - appreciate your efforts on this - I'll keep an eye open online myself for any further relevant info.

Only as FYI, I just looked and there were 251,153 signatures, with access from the East Coast US.

Here's one non-main stream news site (college newspaper), dated Friday, March 14, 2008, but no time stamp. [emphasis added]:

"Supporters can visit Guinness’s web site devoted solely to this endeavor—proposition317.com—and sign the petition. The company is hoping to gain one million signatures, but it is shy by almost 900 thousand. Even if it does reach this goal, Proposition 3-17 would still need congressional approval."

<http://www.uecrescent.org/articles/st...>

Every time the counter reaches 1 Million, Guinness starts it over again. I've observed it hit the 1,000,000 mark twice now but there's only room for 6 digits. My guess is that Guinness does this to keep people signing on past the first million. They will probably have 10 million or more to submit to Congress.

It's now 264K or so. 15 hours ago it was 250. This works out to about 1000 or so an hour signatories. To reach a million signatures, it'll take roughly 40 days. At that rate, it'll take 13 months to reach 10 million.

This March 4th article suggests there were about 94,000 signatories at that time (906,000 needed)

http://www.bostonmagazine.com/blogs/b...

Possibly the extra signatories were from a count done from pubs.. and added online - who knows? Guinness does, and I'm sure they'll publish final figures one they submit the petition in a day or so, US time.

http://www.silive.com/newsflash/index...

Hey Fingers of Fury, can I rename you Fists of Fury?

http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/sh...

Tisha, this case lacks mathematical logic in addition to evidence from a online news source that indeed they didn't reach a million signatures.

Get it was gamed eh Fists of Fury? Who would've bothered hacking
the site to produce insane figures? Let's ask Diaego, who are sure to
confirm they were f""""ed over locally by a hacker to produce a false
result. I'm kidding of course. Just a joke! How on earth can we confirm that a corporate website was either hacked or deliberately gamed by Diaego to produce PR hype?

Anyway, can we settle for "No" - I'd like my $303. BTW Fists of Fury, how much did you have staked on this? A thousand? How would you receive if the outcome was indeed a million signatures? just for the record. Or did the jump on the graph from 30% to 90% indicate a bigger stake? i should've jumped in them with my no eh?

I'd just like to say that I am actually drunk as a skunk hence the spelling errors. My dog has IBD, my girlfriend left for a vibrator salesman and I've got white ants in the floorboards.

well the white ants wasn't my fault but I'm not sure about the vibrator thing. The dog ate some vindaloo curry the other night left on the table by a hooker so I'd like to think I wasn't responsible.