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istockphoto or other micro stock photos in publications on issu
I am wondering about the use of istockphoto photos in publications on issu.
Istock says that one can only put things on the net in a fairly low resolution size
(3.on–line or electronic publications, including web pages to a maximum of 800 x 600 pixels for image or illustration Content or to a maximum of 640x480 for video Content)
for fear that their images are stolen.
If I use the no download option then I guess that users can still do a screen capture
but I also guess that this may mean that such users can not get hold of the image at
a size that falls fowl of the istockphoto licence? What will be the resolution of capturable
images?
Is anyone using istockphoto photos (without an extended licence) on publications
here?
Do you use the "no download "option?
I am talking about the use in a derivative work and not (of course) just posting
istock images to issu which would be clearly in breach of copyright.
If istock images are not usable then is there a similar cheap stock company with
TOS that allows publishing to issu?
Ideally I would like to allow download of my derivative works (a textbook). Years
ago I had istock agree to my use but I have lost the email and now they are part
of Getty.
The below is not an istockimage but it shows the sort of derivative work that I am thinking about.
Photo by Johny Li on Ami Harikoshi's photostream.
Tim
Istock says that one can only put things on the net in a fairly low resolution size
(3.on–line or electronic publications, including web pages to a maximum of 800 x 600 pixels for image or illustration Content or to a maximum of 640x480 for video Content)
for fear that their images are stolen.
If I use the no download option then I guess that users can still do a screen capture
but I also guess that this may mean that such users can not get hold of the image at
a size that falls fowl of the istockphoto licence? What will be the resolution of capturable
images?
Is anyone using istockphoto photos (without an extended licence) on publications
here?
Do you use the "no download "option?
I am talking about the use in a derivative work and not (of course) just posting
istock images to issu which would be clearly in breach of copyright.
If istock images are not usable then is there a similar cheap stock company with
TOS that allows publishing to issu?
Ideally I would like to allow download of my derivative works (a textbook). Years
ago I had istock agree to my use but I have lost the email and now they are part
of Getty.
The below is not an istockimage but it shows the sort of derivative work that I am thinking about.
Photo by Johny Li on Ami Harikoshi's photostream.
Tim
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Inappropriate?It seems that are a lot of images are being used here on issu, and I guess that a lot of them will be stock photography.
It could be argued that if a photograph is in a pdf magazine page then that is different from it being part of an internet page, so the limits on the size do not apply? Hence it might be argued that downloadable pdfs fall within the bounds of the istockphoto (and other micro-stock) licences. I don't think so since it says "online or electronic publications," in the TOS and issu, downloadable or not seems to be an "online or electronic publication."
Well...with stock companies with these sort of (draconian?) rules, I am not sure that I will ever be able to publish online, till I have taken all the photos myself.
Tim -
Inappropriate?Hi Tim.
Our Terms are clear on that. You cannot upload something you do not have permission to use or copyright over http://issuu.com/about/terms
I suggest you ask the different stock photo sites for permission. I'm sure some of them are OK with your using their material, possibly with a link back to their sites, but it's not for Issuu to decide.
Taking your own photos also sounds great.
Happy publishing.
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The company says
this answers the question
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Inappropriate?Dear Martin
Thank you for your response.
Yes...one can not upload things that one does not have copyright to use.
All the same the micro-stock companies are:
1) surely what many of Issu users are using
2) not entirely clear about where we can use their wares and where we can not.
I agree that this is an issue that I should take up with istock/canstock/
bigstock/shutterwhatever but...
I am interested to hear what other Issu users are doing, and what interpretations they have made and what agreements that they have reached, with which micro-stock companies.
I feel sure that not everyone is taking all their own photos. I think it is very likely that other Issu users are facing the same issue (no pun intended - nor sure how to pronounce issu).
While the onus is on us to find out where we can use what, it might also be in Issu's interests to find out, and negotiate on our behalf. For one thing you have much more negotiating power. You can say "If you accept use of your images on Issu (non-downloadable?) then you will have lots more people paying for your images".
Issu is in a special situation since the flash (I presume) reader provided protects the content to a large degree, especially in the non-downloadable mode. On the face of it web publication is prohibited but I think that "Issu-web-publication" falls into a different category, very different at least to the use of jpg image on an html page.
Tim
I’m still interested to hear the experiences of others.
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Inappropriate?Answered!??
I find it sad that this question is marked "answered" when really the answer is very much up in the air.
Does Issuu really think that this question is answered?
It is not at all answered. It is a major issue for issuu, no other way of saying it.
I feel sure that many if not the majority of publications on issuu are using microstock photos and, while I do not mean to point a finger at anyone, to demostrate this fact I looked at only *one* publication (it happened to be on the right as a related publication to one of my own)
http://issuu.com/travelplan/docs/trav...
and picked the first generic looking, micro-stocky photo and searched for it on my favourite micro-stock site using the key words "baby" & "globe". And low and behold I think that I may (I would like to leave that up in the air too) have found the original image
http://www.istockphoto.com/stock-phot...
I really really don't mean to suggest that there is anything at all nasty, strange nor illegal about the publication in question. It was a random *first click*. If you dare to be so mean as to take them down then I am going to click all over your biggest users and find out where they get their micro-stock from! Please do not pretend that this can be solved by deleting this publication. Your site is rife with the same. It merely goes to show the extent to which micro stock rights are a critical issue, that issuu should surely, for the sake of its clients, be looking into and negotiating on our behalf.
A related company, Youtube, does this negotiation. Youtube is rife with all sorts of things but they have many rights holders on their side because they both reward rights-holder cooperation (offer links to the place of purchase), and arbitration processes that protect the uploader (rights holders can immediately demand removal or a link without ever taking the uploader to court).
"You publish", you say, but how can one publish here if the contents' rights holders do not allow publishing here?
The solution is good and bad news.
Right now visual non-moving 2D i.e. image rights holders do not quite, strickly speaking, allow publication to Issuu. But if Issuu were to negotiate then I think the the rights holders will play ball and Issu will become the place where you, we, can publish. Like Youtube (with the same You/U catch-phrasey metaphor) Issuu offers the protection (the difficulty of download) and could offer the cooperation (links to places like istock - with of course profit sharing for Issuu too) to create a synergy of creators, viewers, and facilitators.
You know it makes sense. Just tell me, "We are onto it. We will get back to you." And not pretend that, as it stands, this is a problem solved.
Tim
I’m sad you say this is answered
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