PvP Arena

go cleric its that simple :)

I've heard this response time and time again. Cheats are being exploited and constant pvp barrage is forcing players out of the game. For one thing you have to use a stone of change to change to cleric it isn't an option at the point of initial character creation. And quite simply stated cheats and pvp exploits should not be determining what character a player can and can not use. Personally I'm about fed up with the game. So if the developers want a few thousand accounts set up by a hundred or so players they can have at it. But the game will always be screwed and cheating power gamers will always chase honest players out of the game if it stands this way forever. Sorry Dave, you had a chance to correct this crap. You said you had. I say we fair players create a boycott and withhold any further funding as well as discouraging fellow gamers from sending funding until this is addressed.

@ Lee
Honest? If you put your time more in game than in forum MAYBE you can be a great pvper too. You not a player, you are just a whiner. You can't master the game that is why you whine in forum. And certainly your not even qualify to comment in forum with your gaming experience in gear quest. You are just a nobody, no contribution, no skills, nothing! Even Omegaex is able to exploit the bug to get Grandmaster which shows he has a brain and which you do not even possess.

In all MMORPG people are getting PVPed all the time. DEV is already considerate enough to put a class which is not interacting in PVP activities. More players will be quitting when they do not see any fun in PVP arena if there is no1 active in it. If you do not wish to be hit go cleric, it not get out from the forum and master the game.

Gosh, you people really talk more than play. If you are able to master the game and complain in forum i will be the 1 to STFU. But too bad your PVP rank and Level and just jokes.

Me no understand you engrish.

You no understand, me no want to play pvp. Me fine not using exploit. No cheatie cheatie. You go have fortune cookie and shut the fuck up.

Then bloody go cleric and STFU. Your level in game suck to the core, loser

Wylin makes a good point. There really isn't any mastery in attaining the grandmaster title with the way things are set-up atm.

Perhaps a pvp arena would allow for better pvp dynamics -> permitting some skill/timing/dedication to be incorporated into winning pvp battles.

Going Cleric is an obvious choice for players who like to quest and not be bothered with attacks - I don't want to see a pvp arena just so people can choose a time and place for pvp - rather I feel a pvp arena could enrich the game immensly.

PvP is the biggest load of bullshit there is. It's just that simple. I don't want to be a cleric and i dont want to spend $10 to do it. Dave, fix PvP issues because PvP is a fairly large reason for people leaving. I fight a boss i get attacked i sit around i get attacked. I'm sorry i don't want to sit around with 10 energy and 800 def. i want to sit in energy or attack gear. Turtling is retarded. You don't get killed from PvP big deal, meanwhile you don't save up any energy and if you get attacked you automatically lose... not my idea of fun.

If there is no PVP there is no fun in the game at all. People will get bored eventually when there is no challenges at all.

Get your facts right, people are start leaving as there is no more fun in PVP anymore. There are no new attack gear to advance to is also another main reason people left the game.

If you cant take the heat of PVP, either turn cleric or you can go play maple story.

Defense gear are made for such reason and that is why people tend to hunt for the best or purchase it to stay alive. There is no such thing as turtling. If you can't manage your character well then you are just another retard and stop complaining in the forum!

damn all u guys do is winge winge

how a bout an item which gives the same effect as cleric pvp conditions that way u could choose which ever class u wanted to be an still lvl quick if thats how you wanted to play the game ie. be a rogue but dont want to pvp but still want the big attacks . just an idea

I like lee's idea better to a point but I believe either way you might as well say pvp is going to be a dead issue...Like Lee says you will never please everyone. It's to bad things have to come to this I hope when the pvp area is introduced there will be a good reason to interest more people in pvp at that point....some kind of reward system not having to do with rank would be nice maybe team battles as opposed to one on one or ganging.....(I believe this is hard issue without a clear and perfect answer to all...) Just my opinion...

I think first anyone under level 10 should not be able to pvp, then a pvp quest(with a reward of some type of bonus to stats/skills/spells/something) could be added(optional to complete) at level 10.

If someone completes the quest they would then be in the pvp game, but I also think at certain points they should be allowed to opt back out, and lose whatever bonuses they had gained. And the person should be able to chose to be able to go back and forth but maybe always make them stay with what they picked for like 3days or a week.

Also, if the game implemented pvp rules similar to the pvp rules the top guilds have in place (no killing the same person more than once per 24 hours, limiting the amount of attacks on an individual per 24 hours to a stamina load, no gang attacking) this would also help people not feel like they are being targeted.

I think Multi-accounts are also totally ruining the game, and they really need to be dealt with. PvP is a major area that alts come into play. Some days lately I've been so disgusted/frustrated with what is let slide that I haven't really been playing anymore.

I also do agree with Lee's idea.

Dave, there is no armor that impossible to be pierced, i pierced a 1012 armor before and if i am capable to do it, i believe other are too, depends on how much effort you calculated the stat of your character.

If gear switching is modified what is the point of having def gear available in the game, they will be useless. Every MMOPRG do introduce attack/defend gear. This is for players to master in owning and surviving. What is the point of no survivability for a PVP player. More will leave as they find PVP is made to satisfied a certain number of people.

By the way, lot of player left the game as lack of update and new gears introduce to the game. As i am a lv43 now, what i log in everyday is just to hit Agamemnon and i have already obtain a max multi layered chest, which means other than blind leveling there is nothing much for me to accomplish anymore. This is the main reason why hardcore top level player left the game, professional players do not complain of being getting hits, only sissy do. They will find ways how to enhance themselves to get a revenge and not whine in the forum

Cleric class was made perfect for players that do not wish to PVP, If a player choose not to be PVP and not to be a cleric this is their own bloody problem, I am sick of listening to people keep on complaining about being hit. So if they choose to be stubborn then they should face the own consequences. Dave why do you need to comply to these selfish group of people.

Wylin, no offense, quite a big number of your brute do not even cap lv10 and tons more are not even lv20. Besides that quite number of active players from Brute left and new smaller guilds are created that is why the active number drop severely. Some players might create alt and place them into Brute, which will make the number larger.

Please do look at players like Kevin, Keldon, Aurore, Lee, Crysasis, Sausage and many more high level active players we played with or way cap our level left. They left with the reason I mention.

Quite a number of players are still in 1st map like Aegon and Eilisy which make Underworld boring and no challenge at all.

So Dave the main point is please get updates to attach more people and not wasting time bother issue of small number of selfish players.

How about we keep this DAMN discussion on topic and to the point. I am really sick to death of all of you wingeing and whining and constantly making personal attacks on other players here in this pitiful excuse for a forum. For god sake Kramaley get a properly MODERATED forum, like 99% of other games use.

I have been gaming for over 20 years and NEVER have I seen so much rudeness, childishness and unacceptable behaviour as I have seen in this forum.

Grow up the lot of you and start behaving like adults.

Damn. Now that crud is off my chest...

Yes PVP is an issue for some players and needs to be addressed.

No questers should not be forced to play a cleric just to avoid PVP. That is a cop out.

The issue raised near the top of this page is that questers are sick of getting into a attack run against a boss and getting hammered in the middle of it by a pvper often when they have taken a few hits from the boss and are already at low health. It's frustrating as all hell AND IT"S NOT PVP. It's getting stabbed in the back and any decent pvp player knows it's a weak kill without skill or honour.

The hammering of new players by alts for pvp ranking is also a major problem in this game and the fact is IT"S COSTING KRAMALEY PLAYERS AND MONEY. It needs to be addressed URGENTLY. I have mentioned it in previous threads and offered possible solutions (Wylin has offered another in this thread). At the very least new players need to be protected until AT LEAST level 10 and educated by the the game as to how pvp works and the fact that they will need to expect it and prepare for it. Often players quit before they have joined a guild and gotten advice and assistance or it's too late and they are already having negative thoughts about the game.

Kramaley of your new players are negatively affected too often early in the game then kiss them and their cash good- bye. FIX IT.

Here is a thought in regards to Shawn's issue re backstabbing while in Boss fights.

Block it. If a player is involved in a boss fight then he is automatically immune from PVP until that fight ends.

BUT and here's the important part if a player INITIATES a PVP attack at any time he is IMMEDIATELY marked as wanted and cannot be immunized for 24 hours. Questers can get on with questing which is what they enjoy. Players who do both will know the risk they take and serious PVPer's deal with it cos they tough guys and can handle it right. :)

As to the topic that started this pitiful excuse of a thread (yeah I'm still a little pissed) Dave has said that it's a major job so fair enough. Personally I would prefer to see more varied content for the middle and upper levels. More mini quests, apothecary, blacksmith and additions that have already been mentioned in other threads but can't be grouped easily, stickied, made Official, moderated or even edited in this... here we go again... wait for it lol. Pitiful excuse for a forum.

A paid quality forum costs less than a Gold Membership. Come on Kramaley give Dave a break, get a real forum. Hire/appoint proper moderator(s). NUFF SAID.

What about giving all classes the same ability as the cleric? If they attack other players they are vulnerable to attack for however long. Then only players who take part in pvp or at least have attacked another player can be attacked. And likewise if you attack you can only choose players who have pvp'd within said time frame.

And Lee Wicks, I can't speak for every facebook app but almost all adventure games with pvp abilities protect new players from pvp for at least ten levels.

First off - well said desimator. I feel the same as you regarding forum conduct and have posted as much many times before.

I agree Newbie protection is key. More protection = more players = more fun for all = more money for devs.

A small semi-related note -> It seems to me that it was only when the "accomplishments" were added that people started up multiple new characters to get the 1000kills. I like having accomplishments around, however it just goes to show you that people will always take any idea or new game aspect and find a way to abuse the system to meet some new gaming need.

Hi guys this is Noltan from H C i did read every comment posted here and simply know that everyone is right ,,, as far as pvp opinion it is like arguing on different foods and why one is better than another ,everything is based on personal taste.having said that!!! this game as far as graphics is no where near the games out there like pc games however!!! THE RAW FACTS OF BEING A WARRIOR AND WHINGING IF U DIE IS PATHETIC THIS GAME HAS SUCH REALISM OF COMBAT IN BASIC GRAPHIC FORMAT THAT ITS UNIQUE AND A GREAT GAME....ITS MINDS AGAINST MINDS ITS EGOS AGAINST EGOS WITH ALL THE STRESSES ASSOCIATED WITH FIGHTING AND WAFARE JUST LIKE IN REAL BATTLE AND ALL WARS FROM THE BEGGING OF TIME . so if you dont understand the true warriors way go play something like skoobee doo goes to war shoot em up gallery games...the only true enemy of this game is multi accounts ,,,,,,,and my main point IN GUILD WARS SOME GUILDS PRACTICE GUILD DESTRUCTION BY HARASSING WEAKER PLAYERS AND ASKING THEM TO LEAVE THEIR GUILDS OR DIE AGAIN mostly done by experienced second account players preying on the unexperienced starters,,if there were no second accounts it would be a level playing field as designed by only fighting ur level range AND INSTEAD OF LEAVING A GUILD THEY LEAVE THE GAME AND GO INACTIVE,,,THAT PRACTICE SHOULD BE OUTLAWED AND PUNISHABLE BY BANNING.

Just popping in to see what's up... I have no opinion on PvP either way... I doubt that pvp is causing many if any to leave the game. Some of the people here have it correct that it is probably the lack of variety/content at the low/mid levels.

As far as unmoderated posts go, I like it ^_^ Sensorship is for commies!

Bane really burst out big time. I think he got a point there, The game is an MMO so PVP is unavoidable. The name of this game speak itself. GEARQUEST.

For me its more on gears that we are wearing. The basic element for this game (for me) are only 2 that is attacking and defending. So, banning PvP or the PvPing can only done on a certain place is out of question. THis is a text based game, its not a physical apperance game that use physics as core. They use math and probabilities for the game formula.

First of all, i want to state that, if the DEV actually pull out the PVP system from this game or make a place where people can PvP (or should i say arena), it will remove half of the purpose on making this game.

I have read all the post. Almost all the reason are the same.

1. I don't want to change to cleric
- Here i want to state that, the DeV generously make this to give you an option so that you can/will never have a problem with PvP yet you say its waste of money. I hate to say this but alot of people who actually pay to play this game loves to battle. You hardly saw a GM who get less than atlease 20 kill(I say hardly not none of). Plus, a game need money to run.

2. I like to turtle around without changing my gear
-This is GEARQUEST, my friend. The purpose of the game is that people change gear throughout the game. The designer actually thought of this as the game element, if he remove it from the game, how will this game turn out to be?

Enough on that.

~Desimator point~

I do agree on protection for noobs. That is a must. Even normal 3D MMO games give protection for noobs. Even WoW make it. Not that we saw it, but the game flow itself tell us. A neutral territory quest has been set for level 10 and above.

I also agree with the opinion on blocking any outside attack while players currently battling bosses. And like he say, imunity need to be given if the player are currently FIGHTING the boss. This can be done easily. When the player been ATTACK(miss is counted) by the boss, he will immune by any attack from other players for at lease 8 minutes. But, if the player attack the other player, the immunity will break.

But I don't agree with the point when a player attack another player, they will lose their immunity. I don't want to elaborate because this will bring more bad things than good in the long run. Please believe me on this. Even if I tell, you guys wont believe me but it will happen eventually.

p/s: Sorry for the broken english. I kind of sux on it. I hope everyone understand. ><