New LinkedIn Group Issues
LinkedIn just changed (translation: "broke") many things about LinkedIn Groups
There is no longer a way to click over to a group's external website from the list of your groups.
There is no longer a way for group managers to sort the list of group members by name or by date joined.
There is no longer the management option to view/approve 50, 100, or 500 members at a time - now there is just a default view of 20 per page and no matter how many members the group actually has, a group manager/owner can now only see a management list with a maximum of 100 members?!?!??!?!?!
There is no longer a way to search your member list by email address?!
There is no longer a way to see the members the manager had previously removed from the group (and thus to have the ability to add them back as appropriate).
There is no longer a way to see which group members withdrew from the group.
There are also new management "options" which are not defined:
* If someone is requesting to join a group, what the heck is the difference between "Decline" and "Block" (yes I can guess, but why doesn't LinkedIn make it clear what the difference is?)
* Similarly, if someone is already a group member, what is the difference between "Delete" and "Block"?
* As mentioned above, the old "Removed" and "Withdrawn" lists have disappeared and have been replace by a "Blocked" list which is also undefined.
And all of that is just upon a first glance at the changes.
Nice "upgrade"
Arrggh.
There is no longer a way to click over to a group's external website from the list of your groups.
There is no longer a way for group managers to sort the list of group members by name or by date joined.
There is no longer the management option to view/approve 50, 100, or 500 members at a time - now there is just a default view of 20 per page and no matter how many members the group actually has, a group manager/owner can now only see a management list with a maximum of 100 members?!?!??!?!?!
There is no longer a way to search your member list by email address?!
There is no longer a way to see the members the manager had previously removed from the group (and thus to have the ability to add them back as appropriate).
There is no longer a way to see which group members withdrew from the group.
There are also new management "options" which are not defined:
* If someone is requesting to join a group, what the heck is the difference between "Decline" and "Block" (yes I can guess, but why doesn't LinkedIn make it clear what the difference is?)
* Similarly, if someone is already a group member, what is the difference between "Delete" and "Block"?
* As mentioned above, the old "Removed" and "Withdrawn" lists have disappeared and have been replace by a "Blocked" list which is also undefined.
And all of that is just upon a first glance at the changes.
Nice "upgrade"
Arrggh.
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Inappropriate?Quick note: I started a new thread specifically for the New LinkedIn Groups "Discussion Feature" Issues - please click here to go that thread...
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Inappropriate?I guess this is a final, lonely comment on this topic - though it has not been resolved, IMHO. The topic seems forgotten or ignored, like the wisdom of grand parents, but it needs to be repeated clearly: the sort by date was one of the most useful features in organization management..
1 - The sort feature is still broken, and it is the bestest broken I never saw.
The sort now works by degree and connections. None of this alphabetical or chronological filing: 52-pick-up is the new organization. This sort holds all the excitement of watching a Florida dog race from a retirement-home rocker and less of the pay off.
There is a Search Members feature to help me welcome new members. Putting the words "new members" into the search fields does not help me but hey, I tried it just in case it was a joke. (Yeah, the promise was that it would be restored.)
At the "Requests To Join," which usually acts as a holding cell for the many requests that do not quite make the grade at the moment, I can watch the same dog race as these names jostle for first position in their respective categories: Show (or 2nd Degree) and Place (3rd Degree). They move according to the number of connections they have.
2 - The "Joined On" information is spotty. I have no idea why this function does not work uniform and I have no idea when it happenned. All I know is that I have no idea when some people joined and why some people get a date stamp and others do not Weep for the loss of data integrity.
The "Requested On" is uniform. I mean in a good way.
3 - The "Members Withdrawn" list was useful. I used it once after 1% of members withdrew, sending them an email to them asking if all was well. This good feature had the potential to provide an early warning flag because, had these withdrawn members been harrassed by current members, I could have improved the group.
Under the current sort/random shuffle function, I can no longer even note who withdrew. Running a forum, which holds conversations in the open in case someone does not know what is a forum/BBS, I have seen some laughable breeches in Nettiquette like when a new member spammed people using Private Message. The new member had just joined and spammed everyone with a question rather than post it once on the forum board. So, nothing would surprise me as to give cause to leave a group.
And the surprises that this topic has brought out have not been pleasant or entirely resolved.
I’m disappointed by the change.
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Inappropriate?It's been 2 weeks since Allen posted his bug fix timetable. Two of the "this week" or "next week" issues remain.
1) I still have group members with null joined dates
2) I still only get 20 members per page, with no option to increase this to 50-1000.
And while the new member function seems to be working, those users that thought they joined when it was broken still don't show up, and probably don't realize that their join requests got lost. Is there any way to notify these users that they have to try it again.?
I’m less grumpy than before but still not happy that LinkedIn made me look like a jerk to my associates
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Inappropriate?Have I missed it?
Is the sort feature off the table?
Search is not Sort. Not even sorta.
I’m disappointed by the change.
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Inappropriate?Is anyone out there running a group who is not paying Linkedin membership. I don't and up until now hadn't thought about it. Now as of a day or two ago I cant see my "requests to join" profiles. How as a group manager can I ascertain the validity of my members if I cant see their profiles? Cant Linkedin modify their software to allow group managers to see profiles of the "requests to join?"
I’m concerned for my group --- once again
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Luke, can you sort your list? I thought the sort feature was going to be a part of LinkedIn. I cannot sort. There is no alphabetical listing. This is more than unhelpful to me - but I am guessing I am the only one with this problem. -
Luke, can you sort your list? I thought the sort feature was going to be a part of LinkedIn. I cannot sort. There is no alphabetical listing. This is more than unhelpful to me - but I am guessing I am the only one with this problem. -
Inappropriate?I manage 2 groups and am not a paying member. I can still click on prospective members and see their profiles.
But it's been TWO MONTHS since the "great linkedin group fiasco of 2008" and we still don't have most of the functionality that we lost in the changeover, despite the commitments that were made to fix these issues.
I still can't select the number of members to see on a page. I still can't sore the member list by date joined, by member name, or by email address. The default sort order, by connection to me and total connections is totally useless for managing a group.
linkedin's customer support was always worthless. Now I'm losing faith in the employees that participate in this forum.
I’m being lied to
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I'm not saying this fixes the problem, but, it is a reasonable workaround for the time being. You can export your entire member list in a spreadsheet format easily imported to your spreadsheet editor of choice where the member data can be sorted as you would like. I have resorted to this for now. -
I'm not saying this fixes the problem, but, it is a reasonable workaround for the time being. You can export your entire member list in a spreadsheet format easily imported to your spreadsheet editor of choice where the member data can be sorted as you would like. I have resorted to this for now. -
Hi Bob. Its Luke here - It would seem that part of Linkedin do feel that we should as non paying members see the profiles. I have had a response from them:
Dear Luke,
Thank you for following up with details. This should be available, and I've filed a correction request. We appreciate your patience while this issue is being resolved.
Regards,
Sarah
LinkedIn Groups Team
Customer (Luke Grange) 10/20/2008 11:25 PM
With this much information how can I determine if they are right for the group or not. I need to see an expanded profile and as a group manager this information is being withheld? -
Inappropriate?Let's face it. LinkedIn does not care about 25 Million users. We are thirteen people, none of whom is Bill Gates Jr. or Warren Buffet: not even Jimmy Buffet or even Allyoucaneat Buffet. Who are we kidding here?
I’m disappointed that the first problem still isn't solved and we are onto the next problem.
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You are so right, Aneta. I am not sure if this has all come about as a result of a failed Linkedin revenue model to stuff your face right now and run later. Doesn't bode well. Where can we take our groups to now it probably a good topic to start up. -
You are so right, Aneta. I am not sure if this has all come about as a result of a failed Linkedin revenue model to stuff your face right now and run. Doesn't bode well. Where can we take our groups to now it probably a good topic to start up. -
Inappropriate?Hi Luke. Depending on the group make-up, it might be worth to show it around to major media outlets - the ones who are slow to respond and left in the dust by LinkedIn's initiative. They would be the first to welcome the disgruntled. Our group got onto CNN's "vision of Poland" radar last week, because of our demographic make-up. CNN is also trying to promote the citizen journalist idea so access to polling groups is as important to them as they are to MSNBC. LinkedIn was not mentioned - it is not user friendly to group I have to manage "off-line" anyway.
If a tree falls alone in the woods.... does the LinkedIn marketer hear it?
I’m dissatisfied by the silent treatment.
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Inappropriate?I lost another member from a group. Contacted him - because this is LinkedIn's advice to me every time this happens with a contact or a group member. In large groups this would be impossible because of the alphabetical sort feature downgrade. He has no idea why the group left him. Bad showing for local networking. (Plus he is an open networker with fewer than 50 groups.) So we are both dissatisfied not just me alone.
Again, another tree falls in the woods.... we have openned a Plaxo profile to explore another "forest."
With Internet networking platforms, there really is no intellectual reason to associate Plaxo with Europe and LinkedIn with USA any more than there is a reason to associate electricity more with a toaster than a washing machine. Emotionally it may be difficult on some but so are continuing problems.
I wonder how elastic loyalty is when it comes to Internet-based networking platforms?
I’m on Plaxo.
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Inappropriate?FUCK LINKEDIN AND THEIR SHIT RULES I AM NOT HAPPY I OWN ONE OF THE TOP 20 GROUPS ON THE SITE AND WENT TO CREATE A NEW SUBGROUP TO BE TOLD THAT I OWN TOO MANY GROUPS???? WHAT TOO MANY GROUPS??? OK SO I JUST DROPPED 4 AND TOLD MY POOR MEMBERS TO WRITE TO THEM TO COMPLAIN AS IT WAS NOT MY ISSUE AND STILL I COULD NOT CREATE THE ONE EXTRA SUB GROUP I WANTED TO CREATE SO NOW I HAVE UPSET MANY PEOPLE AND STILL NOT GO ANYTHING BACK IN RETURN.
I’m PISSED OFF
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