Confused on "Content Site" Defintion
Hi Jaxon, W_W, and Friends,
I've had a couple of links rejected for the same reason before (as content sites), namely:
http://gofugyourself.celebuzz.com/
http://pictureisunrelated.com/
Content Site : We link to individual content (games, animation, movies, etc.) so that each piece can be voted for on it's own merit. Select an individual page from this site and reply to this message with it's URL. We will update this submission for you.
But I have had these links approved:
http://uglyoverload.blogspot.com/
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/
I'm confused. They seem to me to be of the same ilk. And they all seem to me to be of the same ilk as Failblog and Cuteoverload or else I wouldn't have submitted them. And I think these would be really dull as individual pages. The fun is going in and getting a new page every day. I mean, one of the other rejection reasons is:
Single Images:
It's very rare that a single image is very interesting.
To me, if something is a collection of links very much tied to the same topic, but changes on the daily, sort of a dynamic image gallery, then it is appropriate for M&C.
Something I would consider a content site would be BoingBoing, where the entries are so unlike one another. M&C is another content site.
I want to be in line with M&C policy, though, so if I'm way off from what the other moderators are doing, tell me! I try to submit content that's beyond just videos to keep M&C varied, but I'm not a gamer. That leaves it to stuff like this. If it's out of scope, let me know, and I'll stop. Or let me know why some of these things are not like the others.
your pal
booge
I've had a couple of links rejected for the same reason before (as content sites), namely:
http://gofugyourself.celebuzz.com/
http://pictureisunrelated.com/
Content Site : We link to individual content (games, animation, movies, etc.) so that each piece can be voted for on it's own merit. Select an individual page from this site and reply to this message with it's URL. We will update this submission for you.
But I have had these links approved:
http://uglyoverload.blogspot.com/
http://www.passiveaggressivenotes.com/
I'm confused. They seem to me to be of the same ilk. And they all seem to me to be of the same ilk as Failblog and Cuteoverload or else I wouldn't have submitted them. And I think these would be really dull as individual pages. The fun is going in and getting a new page every day. I mean, one of the other rejection reasons is:
Single Images:
It's very rare that a single image is very interesting.
To me, if something is a collection of links very much tied to the same topic, but changes on the daily, sort of a dynamic image gallery, then it is appropriate for M&C.
Something I would consider a content site would be BoingBoing, where the entries are so unlike one another. M&C is another content site.
I want to be in line with M&C policy, though, so if I'm way off from what the other moderators are doing, tell me! I try to submit content that's beyond just videos to keep M&C varied, but I'm not a gamer. That leaves it to stuff like this. If it's out of scope, let me know, and I'll stop. Or let me know why some of these things are not like the others.
your pal
booge
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Inappropriate?One of the core ideas behind MilkandCookies is to feature content that can be voted on and shared. There is something inherently abstract about the work content, I know, so I will attempt to define it better.
First off, content doesn't change. It's source (YouTube, DailyMotion, etc) may change. It's filetype (MP4, Flash, etc) may change. It's quality may change (standard definition vs HD). Even it's dimensions.
Secondly, content is usually a single item. This could be a single video, an article or a webpage dedicated to a single simple thing thing (microwaving Peeps or the spray paint art of a street performer in Nebraska).
Finally, the content requires a fixed URL. If the link is someplace.com/today then tomorrow the content will be different on that page.
When each of these is met, then users and view, rate, share and comment on the content and everyone know what is being referred to.
We are not a website rating service, but a content service.
Now, all that being said: do we make mistakes? do some things slip through the cracks? do we make exceptions? yes yes and yes
I hope this clarifies things. Feel free to ask more if it doesn't. ;)
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Thanks, Jaxon.
Let me clarify what I said. I should have said a collection of images and videos dedicated to the same thing, not a collection of links. If one has to click from the landing page, then I wouldn't consider it a submission for M&C.
But I'm still unclear. I understand about exceptions, but am I going rogue?
I’m still confused
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Inappropriate?This is an example of a page of images that is barely considered as discrete content:
Peeps nearly indestructible!
http://www.milkandcookies.com/link/14...
This is not:
http://www.lolcats.com/
Both are about one thing (peeps or lolcats), but one is about a few experiments and the other is an ongoing projects that keeps changing due to new content being added.
If you are submitting and in doubt, submit it. If you are moderating and in doubt you have the option to skip it. Either way feel free to shoot me, or one of the other mods, a personal message.
Alot of what we do here is from the gut, which is hard to quantify. ;)
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Thanks, Jaxon.
Okay, I'm pretty much where I was when I started. I think I do understand what a content site is. After discussing with you, it has not changed.
I’m satisfied
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Inappropriate?Howdy BBS and any other readers,
First of all, just to start off with something off topic, as I'm wont to do, I notice BBS has awarded me a special status: Jaxon, W_W, and Friends she opened her question with. This could mean BBS thinks I'm a very important creature at M&C, someone who perhaps rules the site with an iron fist along with Jaxon, who's da Boss. Actually, I'm only a mod like you, BBS. I enjoy no other privileges (except being allowed to break all rules when I feel like doing that). Of course, I'm a talking wolf, which is actually reason enough to mention me by name separate from the others ... and to be honest I do always demand of people that they pay me homage OR ELSE! (options range from a permafrost sightseeing tour that ends rather abruptly, to stuff such as playing with leopard seals brought over from Antarctica, or milder entertainment involving romantic sled cruises with me holding the reins).
Okay, that said, we can now move to the business at hand:
I also asked myself a few times what defines a content site, and in the end I just continued to rely on my gut feeling when voting. I do want to mention that when I run into a link that goes right to a site that looks to be some sort of a portal to all sorts of videos (and what not) I flag it. If the site is dedicated to one subject (narrowly defined, so no site that has a trillion videos about animals, for example), I vote on it. I think it's hard for me to explain here where I draw the line. Certainly I can't remember having flagged your links, so I can't comment there. It's rare that I flag something. Dupes are reason #1 for me.
I actually like the variety, so I tend to vote leniently, knowing that that encourages people to keep submitting, and submitting better stuff over time maybe. This is also why I have recommended Jaxon to pay extra attention to new people. Give 'em a headline if they have submitted something that deserves some attention. And make sure the headlines are varied in subject: a game now and then, some light stuff (but not stupid), some politics, some of this, some of that. I think that is done well now, and the amount of headlines has been lowered drastically, but perhaps too drastically. I would think about ten new ones daily would be fine. Recycle some classics now and then, which is also done regularly, so no complaints here.
Take care,
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Inappropriate?I don't buy it. Content sites, self-promotion and blogs were specifically prohibited by rule. Yet some people can post them?
Bleh. Feh. Meh.
I’m unhappy
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