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We're Error: We're sorry, but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application
After a while, google starts to deny loading of tiles, and gives the message: We're sorry, but your query looks similar to automated requests from a computer virus or spyware application. How can I prevent this from happening?
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Thanks for digging deeper, cole.
Just so you know, this Galileo thing is something we (current modest maps maintainers at Stamen) have looked into and we decided that keeping up with Google's tile servers isn't a game we're interested in playing right now. We'd rather improve the performance and quality of the tile display engine itself, and work on our own tiles if we have to.
That's not as insane as it sounds, see www.openstreetmap.org for an Open Source approach to how that could look, www.everyblock.com for an example of a company doing it now with free US data sources, and www.pushpin.com for a commercial company who can render tiles you can use with Modest Maps.
We'd also be interested in hearing from someone at Google about an official way to keep the tiles working, and possibly about getting the API licensed for Flash developers to use as freely as Javascript developers can today.
Incidentally, does anyone know if the problem goes away if you include the Google Maps javascript and run your swf from a page with a valid API key?
In the meantime we'd be happy to implement patches and bug-fixes from you if you manage to get the Google tiles working again, of course!
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Inappropriate?Could it be that modest maps sends it's tile image requests in batches of 5, separated by 100ms? Maybe a random division in time is better?
I’m confused
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Inappropriate?According to people I've talked to at Google, they limit almost entirely based on raw throughput. So it's not a pattern matching thing, so much as a too-many-tiles thing. I've had this happen a lot in testing MMaps as well, and I'm not sure if there is a definite solution. I am trying to add a few requests that will make MMaps' interactions with Google look more like requests from Google's own API, including the API key.
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Inappropriate?It seems that in the last 24 hours, we have been getting this error with a bit of frequency. For me, it only seems to be affecting the aerial tiles. I request a tile, and instead of a JPG, I get back this error message which asks for a captcha to continue. Entering the captcha allows me to continue, but this only after loading the tile urls in the browser via firebug after encountering the missing tiles in my app.
Has anyone else seen this problem?
Sample: http://tinyurl.com/2g2hzm
Michal, I had the same thought as you about trying to make the tile requests more like those from Google's API. Have you found anything more about this issue? Once this error comes up, it blocks all similar requests from your computer, even if those requests are coming from Google's own app. It appears to be a flag of sorts, but you're right that maybe that flag is triggered by the format of the tile request url. Any more ideas? -
Inappropriate?David, I think it might just be the volume thing again. If you're in the middle of actively developing an application, and you're loading gobs of tiles all day, it may be that your testing behavior is looking like too-many-requests from Google's end - the fact that http://maps.google.com persists this behavior (and off-the-record comments from people inside Google who deal with service abuse) makes me think that you've just crossed a simple throughput limit. Can I suggest switching to a different provider for development purposes, e.g. Microsoft?
I’m hoping this helps
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Inappropriate?Unfortunately, this problem is also being reported by some test users. The volume thing definitely makes sense to me, but it looks like bugs to them. I will tell testers not to test so much. :) Thanks.
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Inappropriate?I get this error when using Firefox 1.5.0.4, but not when using other browsers, during the same session. Has only started a few days ago with firefox. It can happen on the first time I google something for a browsing session. -
Inappropriate?Has anyone found a solution to this? I have tried turning the throttle way down so it only loads a few images a second and i still have google blocking the requests after a few minutes of panning and zooming.
Looking at what google's own app is loading, there is a 'cookie' parameter in the query string for the tile request.
example:
http://kh2.google.com/kh?n=404&v=24&c...
I am not sure if 'cookie' is required or how that is generated. Maybe it is the key to solving this problem??
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Inappropriate?I just noticed this problem as well. I found the cookie parameter in firebug and wondered if that might be the issue. Has anyone figured this out? Maybe there is some way to get a legitimate cookie using the api and then use that in modest maps.
I also noticed that roads and terrain append a new parameter ('s') that contains a substring of the word Galileo. I found the following javascript <http://www.google.com/intl/fi_ALL/map...> (which appears to be the actual maps api) which helped me decipher the formula:
e=(a.x*3+a.y)%8,f="Galileo".substr(0,e)
Just search for Galileo on the page and you'll find it. It is based on the tile x and y values, so is very easy to compute in modest maps. I've never noticed any problems with not having this parameter, but I added it just to be safe.
Now if we could just figure out the cookie for imagery.
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Inappropriate?Thanks for digging deeper, cole.
Just so you know, this Galileo thing is something we (current modest maps maintainers at Stamen) have looked into and we decided that keeping up with Google's tile servers isn't a game we're interested in playing right now. We'd rather improve the performance and quality of the tile display engine itself, and work on our own tiles if we have to.
That's not as insane as it sounds, see www.openstreetmap.org for an Open Source approach to how that could look, www.everyblock.com for an example of a company doing it now with free US data sources, and www.pushpin.com for a commercial company who can render tiles you can use with Modest Maps.
We'd also be interested in hearing from someone at Google about an official way to keep the tiles working, and possibly about getting the API licensed for Flash developers to use as freely as Javascript developers can today.
Incidentally, does anyone know if the problem goes away if you include the Google Maps javascript and run your swf from a page with a valid API key?
In the meantime we'd be happy to implement patches and bug-fixes from you if you manage to get the Google tiles working again, of course!
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Inappropriate?FYI I have tried to include the Google Maps javascript and use a valid API key and the tiles still stopped loading after a while. I even tried appending the key to the copyright calls in copyright.js (example: http://maps.google.com/maps?spn=24.76...,104.62485915308869&z=3&vp=38.27267803388666,-61.52343462673009&ev=p&t=h&key=[mykey] ) which didn't seem to make a difference.
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Inappropriate?There fortunately other search engines. I got fed up with it and switched to Yahoo using http://uk.search.yahoo.com/ which gives me results instead of the "Were sorry" script. I don't know about you but I don't have time for a search engine that doesn't search.3 Comments Add a comment
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>>I don't know about you but I don't have time for a search engine that doesn't search. <<
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What does giving you image tiles (outside of their intended use) have to do with searching? I'm looking for a solution too, that's why I'm at this thread, but they have every right to limit the access to their tiles.
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rjcarr - Allan probably found this post through a search. Google also gives the same error message on other services, not just the tile server, when it thinks you might be abusing its servers.
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Inappropriate?Google have released an Maps API for Flash.
http://code.google.com/apis/maps/docu...
Is there a way to tie in with the new API and make valid Google tile requests from Modest Maps.
Be great to get proper Google support in Modest Maps which is still a superior way to implement maps with multiple providers.
I’m optimistic
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