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OpenSearch search engines should Just Work in Ubiquity
OpenSearch search engines should work in Ubiquity by issuing "(Search engine name) (query)".
A Ubiquity command has been added that works to issue "Search (query) with (search engine name)" (http://theunfocused.net/moz/ubiquity/...). Useful, but not the ideal verbiage; it tries to fit everything into "Search ____" when the default search engines (e.g. Google, Amazon) already do not fit that mold.
This was reported before (in a mass report): http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla/to.... This topic specifically addresses the OpenSearch idea.
A Ubiquity command has been added that works to issue "Search (query) with (search engine name)" (http://theunfocused.net/moz/ubiquity/...). Useful, but not the ideal verbiage; it tries to fit everything into "Search ____" when the default search engines (e.g. Google, Amazon) already do not fit that mold.
This was reported before (in a mass report): http://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla/to.... This topic specifically addresses the OpenSearch idea.
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Inappropriate?Andrew, I want only to address your last sentence because it's so important: mass reports are bad, because it is impossible to keep the thread focused on a topic. Thank you for making a new thread on it, and I would suggest posting a message in that thread letting people know there is a topic on this single issue.
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Inappropriate?I like that idea. I don't think there's a way to build a command like that in Ubiquity now, but maybe in the future - this goes hand in hand with the exploration of what's the best way to use the Ubiq command line so that it is both easy to lean ("discoverable"), powerful, and grows with you (i.e. you can make it terse).
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Inappropriate?Desperately needed guys! Sad it's not been addresses so far! -
Inappropriate?I came up with a reasonable workaround using the Search command and a Firefox extension to add any site. More details on my blog: http://andrewski.net/2008/12/ubiquito... (sorry to link to my own blog, but I haven't seen this covered elsewhere).
I’m reasonably pleased with the workaround
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Inappropriate?as I dont already have a massive search list in the seeach bar I used the create-new-search-command thing. I had to tweak it in the command editor everytime afterwards but works pretty nice.
I’m well chuffed
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Inappropriate?I like both Adam and Andrew's solutions here. Making it automatic would be nice, but involves some major guessing and introduces some potential namespace issues. Even if you use the open search URL as the name (eliminating conflicts), URLs aren't really verbs, which takes away from the natural language ideas that underlie the Ubiquity interface.
I’m glad people think about how to improve Ubiquity.
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This is one of the best points
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I'm not sure what you mean; "search [term] with [site]" fits pretty well with the verb structure and is pretty natural. You can even do "search with [site] [term]" which is actually easier to do repetitively since you just delete the term to start a new search. -
I was responding to your original suggestion to change it to (search engine name) (query). That syntax makes more sense to me on some primal level, but I think "search (query) with (site)" is going to stay due to the namespace/verb issues. I was mostly thinking out loud. :)
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Oh, I see. Yeah, I don't have a great idea about the syntax, but I don't agree with my initial feedback on that point anymore. :)
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Inappropriate?I believe the user should dictate what his/her Ubiquity commands are. Integration with the browser's existing search plugins is a step forward. Don't try to come up with a new solution for something that's not broken. It will create more clutter and further confuse the user.2 Comments Add a comment
This is one of the best points
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IMO one of the strengths of Ubiquity is how much is under the hood specifically *without* cluttering the UI. Adding search engines doesn't really clutter too much, especially once you "teach" Ubiquity how often you're using various commands.
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IMO having two separate systems *is* a clutter, especially when Ubiquity gets integrated into Firefox.
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