Ubiquity accessible outside Firefox browser
The possibility of using Ubiquity in a manner similar to Google Desktop Search Bar (pressing CTRL twice) would be more efficient and easy-to-use and would give a boost to its popularity.
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Ednolith, I want Ubiquity itself to be accessible outside of Firefox, and I do not want ot fir my whole OS, I just want it for the web. I want exactly what's in Firefox, I just don't want the requirements of having a browser window open before I use it, or that window having focus. I just want to use it no matter what I'm doing.
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Inappropriate?I believe the Ubiquity Devs work on Enso as well. I would love for Enso to become more akin to Ubiquity. I was an avid launchy user, but have moved to Find and Run Robot recently. Enso never clicked with me, but Ubiquity sure has. Long live Ubiquity!
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Inappropriate?Heh. Agreed :)
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Inappropriate?it would be great
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Inappropriate?Yeah it'd be awesome to be able to use Ubiquity in multiple applications as if it were a part of the OS itself. It's amazingly powerful and yet brilliantly easy to use!
I could even see it as part of an interface for a smart phone/PDA. It seems like it would be a real time saver as compared to navigating through a lot of different menus and applications, especially when one considers how limited the inputs of smart phones/PDAs are in comparison to a full blown PC or laptop.
I’m excited
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Inappropriate?The word Ubiquity means that it is everywhere, so it would be a big step in the right direction to have it on the desktop, phones, and integrated to every program on the computer, like this "command": googleearth to newyork do screenshot
I’m confident this will happen
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Inappropriate?You don't really want Ubiquity itself to be accessible outside Firefox; you want a program that does the same thing as Ubiquity for your whole OS instead of just the web. There are lots of launchers and language-based interfaces like this already. We need a standardized cross-platform version that can be extended as easily as Ubiquity.
This is how I imagine the future of open source software. What's supposed to happen is that users download software, modify it for their own use, and then redistribute the changes, and "free software" is supposed to be important because it protects our ability to do this.
But 99% of people can't code at all, and consequently don't care a bit whether their software is open source or not. There are lots of users, and very few developers.
I imagine that in the future, we'll have much higher-level languages and (interactive) programming interfaces, almost like plain English. Instead of a complex process of filing bugs, making patches, etc, the commands that people create by combining other commands will be uploaded back to the central repository for others to use immediately, with trust metrics in place to keep people safe and maintain high quality of the routines.
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Inappropriate?Ednolith, I want Ubiquity itself to be accessible outside of Firefox, and I do not want ot fir my whole OS, I just want it for the web. I want exactly what's in Firefox, I just don't want the requirements of having a browser window open before I use it, or that window having focus. I just want to use it no matter what I'm doing.
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Inappropriate?This would be the ultimate quicksilver style application for PC. I love quicksilver on mac, and would love a similar application that integrates itself into the web. That's a limitation that quicksilver has yet to overcome. And having UB integrate with other applications too?? That would be phenomenal.
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basically you want UB to be your browser?? If UB becomes a desktop app within itself, I dont believe that FF would have to be open to use it, however, if you wanted web functionality (like emailing using gmail) you would need FF. When you execute a command, like google search or wiki search (anything other that paste), Ubiquity would most likely open up FF (or your default browser[which should be FF ;)]??)
I want the ability to incorporate UB with any desktop app. While that incorporation would most likely be cut and paste, I would love it to be compatible with outlook or entourage...etc.
I’m happy
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Inappropriate?Agreed, this would be an awesome external app to extend firefox. My first thought is something like gnome-do, or quicksilver, but based on ubiquities abilities. quick key combo and it brings up the interface, typing a url would launch firefox, etc etc.
only prob is that it is outside of the firefox box, so that adds LOTS of development time for the different platforms, but it would make a sweet app.
I’m excited
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Hmm. Ideally, I'd like one app for all my needs as opposed to one for local apps and another web apps. Would it be possible to implement Ubiquity as an extension for the apps you mentioned? If so do you think it'll help solve the problem you mentioned? -
Inappropriate?I think it should be possible to build UBIQ into a small frameless firefox window, so that it's still in firefox, but in its own, custom window.
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I have to disagree. Ubiquity needs to be built in to the firefox window. If you're browsing full screen and UB is in another window, you arent going to see it anyway...and even if you arent full screen, most websites are built for 1024x768 and most laptops run at 1440 so unless you can fit ubiquity into the difference (which you cant) the content would be covered up to the point where you would still need to either alt-tab to it, or use your mouse to get to it.
You're adding steps to get to ubiquity, which is taking away from the simplicity that it is trying to achieve. -
Gustavo, couldn't the Ubiquity window just always be on top in Nicolas' proposal? -
How often do you browse the web with a window over your browser? that just takes away from website real estate. This is my personal opinion but if it was a window that was always up on top of the browser, i would definitely not use it at all. too intrusive. -
I assumed that Nicolas implied that the window would disappear and reappear with the press of the key combination. -
how is that any different from what happens now? you can reposition it?? -
also, thats different from what the title of this thread implies... -
While I can't speak for Nicholas himself, I think that is what he was trying to say. -
no worries. if thats the case, then my previous comment still stands :) -
As for it being different from this threads title, I think it is relevant. I think Nicholas feels that it isn't warranted to make Ubiquity a separate application, but could behave as a separate window as a part of Firefox. -
Inappropriate?i see what youre saying. Personally i think ubiquity would be phenomenal as a separate application and worse than it's current state if it was a pop up window rather than the keyboard combination. i think nicolas doesnt like the fact that if he clicks off the ubiquity window onto the web page after running the ubiquity command, it closes. making it a separate window would solve this issue but would make it more intrusive, IMHO
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I'm done playing Devil's Advocate. See my reply to Aaron's comment for how I would like to see Ubiquity implemented outside the browser. -
i agree with you. if you could make ubiquity a global plugin for several different applications instead of just firefox, that would be fantastic -
Inappropriate?This is something like what i meant

Not instead of the nice idea of having UBIQ as a standalone outside FF, but since that will take time to come up with, just do some tricks with FF.
Then maybe add a hot Key to launch the UBIQ window
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Inappropriate?heh, love the wallpaper. also, thinking about it a bit more, yeah, that would be cool. but how about instead of a window (i dont know why but i hate having a bunch of windows open) how about a growl type interface like quicksilver or launchy, that isnt a part of firefox?
I’m happy
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That would, of course, look prettier, but that would be much harder than putting it in a window -
Inappropriate?if it's worth doing, it's worth doing right. why half ass something because it's faster? you'll lose client base because the product was released too soon...
I hate it when software gets released too soon (final versions)
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