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Do crowds = people?
I know there's a "no people" rule, but what about a noticing that isn't about the people in a photo?
for instance, this pic was taken out of play:
http://noticin.gs/noticings/3912107812
but the noticing is the fact that someone in the audience is sitting on a toilet as a chair.
for instance, this pic was taken out of play:
http://noticin.gs/noticings/3912107812
but the noticing is the fact that someone in the audience is sitting on a toilet as a chair.
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Inappropriate?Hmm, I would think that could count as a noticing if it were specified that the toilet-seat was a permanent feature of the room. My criteria is something like "Could a random stranger find this same thing if she or he came by these geo coordinates tomorrow or next week?" -
Inappropriate?britta- that seems like an arbitrary rule. if I notice a really nice sunset or cloud formation you are by no means guaranteed to see it again the next day.
but at any rate, the photo in question was of a presentation hall during a week long furniture fair. all of the seats in the hall are different pieces of furniture, except one which happened to be a toilet. so it would satisfy your suggested test.
this discussion brings up another issues: there should be a notification when a noticing is DQ'd. I had no idea this photo was out of play until I happened to notice it a couple month later. -
Inappropriate?Yeah, it is an arbitrary rule. :) It's just my interpretation of the spirit of the game. Something like this sun-related coincidence is bending my criteria, but I figure it could be reproduced at the same time of day.
That fair sounds cool! I wonder if it would have counted to take a picture between presentations (if possible), with fewer people around, so the photo focused more on the chairs.
I think this relates to Some kind of gentle way to say "that doesn't look like a noticing"...5 Comments
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For what it's worth, I think that's my definition as well - I like the idea that the pictures can inspire other people to search around and find the same thing, if they look hard enough. Didn't the website used to say that noticings were non-transient? -
Yeah, I remember something on the site about a parked car being OK, but not a car in motion.
Hmm, I just saw that my noticing of the local Free Box got taken out of play, and I don't know why. It's a static object, clearly visible in the photo... -
Britta, I think that one was pulled because I wasn't sure what the photo was of, from either the image or the title.
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I see how that makes sense. I choose to keep default filename titles for idiosyncratic aesthetic reasons, so the explanation of the subject is in the less-visible photo description. It's OK with me if my noticings get disqualified sometimes for that. :)
If you're curious, the photo description links to an article with context: the brown thing in the photo is an open box, in the center of a neighborhood, where anyone can drop off useful unwanted items and/or browse to gather items. ends up supporting the local community both practically and through random box-browsing conversations across the usual socioeconomic lines. I'm fond of it. There are a few similar installations in other places with radical pasts. -
Thanks Britta - this is one of the reasons why we've recently start importing descriptions - good to know!
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Inappropriate?Hi Bryan,
It's a bit of a difficult one - I'd argue that the thing that makes it a noticing is the person, which we're trying to discourage. People are such a difficult thing to 'score' - and it seems a lot easier to just take them out of the equation.
Obviously there are lots of noticings with people in them, but it's a big grey area between having people in the background of the shot, and having the person or their action as the noticing.
We obviously made a decision at the time (which I can't remember) that it should be pulled. It's not very polite, because we had no way of informing you, discretely of our decision, and thus no way for you to respond.
We really want to get to stage where discussions like this can happen between players, letting people negotiate the rules between themselves. And if people decide that it's fine, then it should stay. But we're not entirely sure how to achieve that yet.
But for now, posting here seems like the best thing to do.
I hope that's OK,
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Inappropriate?kevan- everything goes away eventually... !
britta- a parked car is not much different than weather, no? not likely to be stable for more than part of a day.
tom - fair enough. I sort of thought the noticing was about the toilet, but I can see it both ways.
and agreed: it would be really nice to have some way to broadcast the gameplay decisions.... in general I am hoping for an rss feed that would keep me updated on scoring of my own stuff (perhaps even as something separate from the overall leaderboard or a city specific leaderboard) and a way to get information about the decisions. could decision information live in machine tags?1 Comment Add a comment
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Yeah, it's a subtle distinction. :) The sunset or cloud configuration seen in the photo would only last for minutes, but I think that parked cars tend to sit for at least an hour or two.
There's actually an art car that I've seen parked in various places in my neighborhood several times, although I don't know who owns it or where they live. I'd like to take a photo of it next time I see it. It's a local institution in its own way.
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