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Pandora should match songs by tempo, or BPM...
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@pandora_radio def need the advanced filtering w tempo. Deep house can become acid jazz. Similar musicality acc. to u but totally different.
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Hi Sean -
BPM (beats per minute) is indeed one of the hundreds of traits analyzed in the Music Genome Project, but it is weighted in with hundreds of other musical traits, so it can sometimes get obscured. We are interested in giving users more control over specific things they'd like to hear in their playlists. Stay tuned for updates!
Meanwhile, here's a suggestion. Try making stations based on a number of individual songs that exemplify the tempo / bpm you're interested in. Stations based on an artist name will usually cover a broader range as Pandora tries to cover the artist's full range.
There are a number variables that come into play when Pandora is selecting the next song to play on your station: the characteristics of the artist you entered as the station seed, the type of feedback you've given on the songs (thumbs up or thumbs down), and any additional artists/songs you've added to the station. Pandora lumps all this together and tries to determine what the best musical match is based on our musical analysis.
The most exacting way to define a station is to start with a song title. When the Music Genome picks a starting point for a set of songs, your choice of a song title for that station's definition will give the Genome very specific information about the musical elements that you want to hear. Using more than one song title will provide some variety while maintaining specificity. You may want to listen to and tune your station for a while before adding additional song titles.
[For a station where a very specific sound is desired, we recommend not using artist names as station seeds. The more artist names you include, the more this will broaden the station's playlist, and the less specific that station's sound will be.]
Next, once your station has been created, consider only voting "Thumbs Up" when you like almost every aspect of a song, not merely when you think a song might fit that station. A good ratio for this purpose, once your station is defined as above, might be only to vote "Thumbs Up" on one out of every five songs.
Sometimes stations do take a little bit of time to "train" to your tastes...
One last tip:
To ban an artist from a station, just give two songs by that artist thumbs downs. Keep in mind, this is station-specific; it will only affect the station you're currently listening to.
I hope all that helps!
:) Lucia, from Pandora
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Inappropriate?Hi Sean -
BPM (beats per minute) is indeed one of the hundreds of traits analyzed in the Music Genome Project, but it is weighted in with hundreds of other musical traits, so it can sometimes get obscured. We are interested in giving users more control over specific things they'd like to hear in their playlists. Stay tuned for updates!
Meanwhile, here's a suggestion. Try making stations based on a number of individual songs that exemplify the tempo / bpm you're interested in. Stations based on an artist name will usually cover a broader range as Pandora tries to cover the artist's full range.
There are a number variables that come into play when Pandora is selecting the next song to play on your station: the characteristics of the artist you entered as the station seed, the type of feedback you've given on the songs (thumbs up or thumbs down), and any additional artists/songs you've added to the station. Pandora lumps all this together and tries to determine what the best musical match is based on our musical analysis.
The most exacting way to define a station is to start with a song title. When the Music Genome picks a starting point for a set of songs, your choice of a song title for that station's definition will give the Genome very specific information about the musical elements that you want to hear. Using more than one song title will provide some variety while maintaining specificity. You may want to listen to and tune your station for a while before adding additional song titles.
[For a station where a very specific sound is desired, we recommend not using artist names as station seeds. The more artist names you include, the more this will broaden the station's playlist, and the less specific that station's sound will be.]
Next, once your station has been created, consider only voting "Thumbs Up" when you like almost every aspect of a song, not merely when you think a song might fit that station. A good ratio for this purpose, once your station is defined as above, might be only to vote "Thumbs Up" on one out of every five songs.
Sometimes stations do take a little bit of time to "train" to your tastes...
One last tip:
To ban an artist from a station, just give two songs by that artist thumbs downs. Keep in mind, this is station-specific; it will only affect the station you're currently listening to.
I hope all that helps!
:) Lucia, from Pandora
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Inappropriate?I wanted to ask about the artist banning thing that you mention here.
I find that there are some artists where I like only about half their songs. I understand that if I add the artist as a seed to the station, no amount of thumbs-down on their songs will ban them - but sometimes, this isn't the solution I'm looking for.
If I thumbs up one song by Artist, and then thumbs down two... what happens to that first song? Is it removed from the station, or does it stay? If it stays, will new songs from Artist get played and stay or go based on feedback, or will it only keep Artist songs that already have a thumbs up rating? -
Inappropriate?Hi tyrsalvia -
Great question!
You're right: if you've seeded a station with an artist (or a song by that artist) that artist cannot be banned on that station.
In fact, if you've given any of that artist's songs a thumbs up on a station, the artist cannot be banned on that station.
So in your scenario: you give 1 thumbs up, then 2 thumbs downs to an artist. The first thumbs up counts as positive feedback about that song, and will affect your station accordingly. (if there are other similar songs by the artist, it's likely they'll be played on that station.)
The 2 songs you axed will never play again on that station. So you'll be able to customize your station based on specific aspects of that artist's repertoire.
I hope that helps!
:) Lucia
(lucia AT pandora.com)
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Inappropriate?I would love to see options that allow for more fine grained control over what kind of music I expect from a station, chief among those being tempo or BPM. A slightly related question: how much influence does a thumbs down have on the station? I feel like thumbing down songs is a more efficient way to train a station, but it isn't helpful if all it does is ban certain songs or artists.
I’m happy, and hoping for more features!
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Inappropriate?Thanks for your note, boelter.
Thumbs downing songs is indeed the best way to shape and prune a station. Beyond banning songs and artists, it trains your station to know your tastes.
Thanks for listening! We'll continue to roll out more features and playlist improvements over time.
Cheers,
Lucia
