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Disk space error after upgrading Miro to 2.5
I just upgraded from Miro 2.0.5 to Miro 2.5 on Windows Vista Home Premium. I simply installed the new version over the old version. Now, when I attempt to run the new version, I receive the following error message:
Not enough disk space to upgrade your database from the previous version of Miro. Please delete some files and try again.
I have over 140gigabytes free on my drive. I tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling but it did not help. Any ideas?
Thanks, Rick
Not enough disk space to upgrade your database from the previous version of Miro. Please delete some files and try again.
I have over 140gigabytes free on my drive. I tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling but it did not help. Any ideas?
Thanks, Rick
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If you're reading through this forum and still having problems, it's very likely that your Miro database is currently "wedged". Several people have sent me log files and it looks like Miro wedges itself in different places.
This post covers locations of things and then has several sets of steps that walk through solutions.
Download Miro 2.5.1
First, I encourage you to download Miro 2.5.1 which is based on the test3 release we tested with you folks a couple of days ago. You can get it here:
Windows:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
OSX:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
Source:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
Database locations
The database files are located in different places on different platforms/systems:
Windows XP:
C:\\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\
Vista:
C:\\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\
OSX:
/Users/[USERNAME]/Library/Application Support/Miro/
More details at https://develop.participatoryculture.... .
Restoring from conversion backup
Miro makes a backup before it attempts the conversion. We're going to restore the backup and let Miro try updating the database again.
1. Make sure Miro isn't running.
2. Find your Miro sqlitedb directory. See the paths above.
3. In that directory should be a file called "sqlitedb" and a file called "sqlitedb_pre80".
4. Rename "sqlitedb" to "sqlitedb.bak".
5. Copy "sqlitedb_pre80" into the same directory and rename the copy "sqlitedb".
6. Try Launching Miro again.
The email for support option
Email your logs and the contents of your database directory to will.guaraldi@pculture.org. I will look at the logs and determine where your Miro database is wedged and will help you unwedge it. This will probably take a couple of days.
Windows XP:
C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp\
Windows Vista:
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Local\Temp\
OSX:
/Users/[USERNAME]/Library/Application Support/Miro/
More details at https://develop.participatoryculture.... .
The nuclear option
If you don't care about your feed data or you don't mind rebuilding it, delete all the database files. The location of the database files is earlier in this post.
Note that doing this will cause Miro to lose all your subscription information, but it should get you going if you want/need Miro working right now.
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I just pushed out a new set of installers based on test3.
To anyone still having this problem, please:
1. go to http://getmiro.com/ and download a new Miro 2.5 installer
2. re-install Miro 2.5
3. launch Miro and let Miro upgrade the database
Step 3 takes a lot of time depending on how big your database is. Unfortunately, there's no ui indicating what's going on. I really apologize for this and we'll fix it soon.
In the meantime, launch Miro and let it do its thing. I've heard reports that this takes anywhere from 15 seconds to 15 minutes.
Hope that helps.
Again, my apologies for the frustration we caused.
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So I think I know what caused the recurring issue. When I first installed the updated (2.5) version, it took a really long time to start up. I thought it wasn't working and killed the process. Then, I tried again, and killed it again. All subsequent attempts resulted in the space error. So I went into the C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\ directory and saw three files: sqlitedb, sqlitedb_backup_80 and sqlitedb_backup_pre80. I renamed them all, adding a .old to them and then made a copy of the sqlite_backup_pre80 file and called it just sqlite. Next time I ran Miro, it began the db update process. After about 5-10 mins, success! Hope this helps some people.</username>
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Inappropriate?Hi all, I'm a developer for Miro and I wrote the code that's causing you problems. I'm really confused as to why this is happening, can someone email me the log file that gets written when the bug occurs? Hopefully we can get this fixed quick.
Log files can be found at:
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I have Vista. Where might this file be? I am still having problems. I finally overcame the "disc out of space" type error. Now though, if I stop a vidcast before the end, it sometimes locks up. Then when I close the program, and attempt to reopen, Miro opens with a blank screen, and will not come up. I then have to UNINSTALL the program and reboot, and then install again. Sure hope this gets fixed soon! I love Miro...but this latest version - frankly- sucks! <gentle></gentle> -
Inappropriate?my email is ben@pculture.org
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Inappropriate?Ditto.
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Inappropriate?my install is in windows vista 32 bit
i was upgrading miro from 2.0 to 2.5
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Inappropriate?I tried the test installer from Javier_Brat's link above but that doesn't help one bit and I still get the not enough disk space? Why have they released this messed up version and how are we supposed to fix it with not Miro.com hompage, all we can do is flick through threads in the hope we can find a fix? Where's Miro's back up or support staff? More important where's the fix?
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Inappropriate?The 'not enough disk space' bug should be fixed now-- if you are one of the people that have had this problem, please download again from getmiro.com and let us know if that works or not! Sorry for the problem!2 Comments Add a comment
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No it does not fix the issue
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Nigel: It sounds like it does not fix your issue. It sounds like you have a different issue than other people in this thread. See my other reply.
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Inappropriate?I just pushed out a new set of installers based on test3.
To anyone still having this problem, please:
1. go to http://getmiro.com/ and download a new Miro 2.5 installer
2. re-install Miro 2.5
3. launch Miro and let Miro upgrade the database
Step 3 takes a lot of time depending on how big your database is. Unfortunately, there's no ui indicating what's going on. I really apologize for this and we'll fix it soon.
In the meantime, launch Miro and let it do its thing. I've heard reports that this takes anywhere from 15 seconds to 15 minutes.
Hope that helps.
Again, my apologies for the frustration we caused.
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Is it really that hard to make a little window that says that your Miro is updating after the install. It took me an hour to figure out that was the problem before I looked on here for help as to why it was running & I had nothing show. Shame on you!
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This did not solve the problem. I even uninstalled and tried reinstalling to no avail.
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Inappropriate?The Company says this problem is fixed, well it's not? I have even deleted Miro from my PC then re-installed 2.5 and yet it still says I do not have enough disk space, where is the fix? Can someone help with an idiots guide to getting Miro to work?
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Nigel: Did you download a new Miro-2.5.exe installer from the http://getmiro.com/ site? The size of the file is 29,882,965 bytes. How much free space do you have on your c: drive?
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Inappropriate?28.4mb is the size of the current Miro installer from the getmiro link? So nope sorry it does not work and still says I have no space even though I deleted it and re-installed Miro after reading other replies! I have a good 40 gigs but have more on three other drives
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Send me the log files via email. My email address is will.guaraldi@pculture.org .
Log files can be found at:
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Inappropriate?whoops sorry just looked and it is the size you sate when you look in properties, sorry I'm no computer expert but this seems gay! How can I get round this issue?
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Inappropriate?Just ran Miro 2,5 Test 3. It started in well under 30 seconds.
There were some videos DLing so I waited for them to finish by watching some already downloaded videos and then closed Miro.
Miro did not close normally, according to Vista Home Premium running in a quad 4 processor.
Apart from that, everything ran/went fine.
Still work to do, though.
Peace :P
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Inappropriate?I'm having the disk full problem too. 440 GB free on C: Vista U-64. Uninstalled reinstalled. I tried going back to a June 09 build but it errors that the database is too new.
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Joseph: Email the miro.log files to me at will.guaraldi@pculture.org.
Log files can be found at:
C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp\miro.log
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Joseph: If you can't find them there, they might be in:
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Sent log and got 2.0.5 working again. Will await 2.5.1
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Inappropriate?Thanks Will you fixed the problem although how your going to post all those instructions is beyond me, but thanks very much for the help from the people that really make Miro work! So all you have to do is re-name the sqlitedb file to.bak while re-naming the sqlitedb_pre80 as sqlitedb. Great fix Will and love the New Miro works so much better than previous versions.
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Thanks! Renaming the file fixed it for me after new installer did not. I fear I caused the error to begin with because I thought it was hanging when it was originally converting the database so I forced Quit (on Mac). After that, got the misleading disk space error. File rename + patience worked out!
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Inappropriate?I've reinstalled this several times-same issue-disk space error. I tried to revert to old version and it now says that my database is to new to use old version. This is incredibly frustrating as I am a new user and was really excited to use Miro. Please help!!!
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I have the exact same problems, and tI tried downloading it again and overwriting it.
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Inappropriate?I've also followed the "company solved" solution instructions and get the same error repeatedly. 4x trying this now. Ughh...
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Seth - did you try Lance's instructions that are below?
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Inappropriate?So I think I know what caused the recurring issue. When I first installed the updated (2.5) version, it took a really long time to start up. I thought it wasn't working and killed the process. Then, I tried again, and killed it again. All subsequent attempts resulted in the space error. So I went into the C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\ directory and saw three files: sqlitedb, sqlitedb_backup_80 and sqlitedb_backup_pre80. I renamed them all, adding a .old to them and then made a copy of the sqlite_backup_pre80 file and called it just sqlite. Next time I ran Miro, it began the db update process. After about 5-10 mins, success! Hope this helps some people.</username>
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You might be correct in killing the process because it was taking too long. I did the same because I thought it was hung.
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Thanks for this, got my Miro 2.5 working after much frustration. For Vista users, look for the files here: C:\Users\{User Name}\AppData\Roaming\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support
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Thanks, after I did this the error disappeared and Miro opened real quick.
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My bad, I found the right files and it started right up with no fuss. Thanks again
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Thank you,that did the trick, but I lost the Video Guide, how do I get it back
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Inappropriate?Following Lance's instructions above worked for me after installing the new Miro release, installing the release only wasn't enough to fix my problem.
Thanks for fixing this so quickly.
I’m thankful
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Inappropriate?if anyone needs help on finding those files on vista just ask ;).
damn! the torrents i was downloading are now gone from miro =S wtf!!
this is so damn annoying.
anyone knows why and how to fix?
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Inappropriate?I have tried three times but I don't think I have download anything different from the version I got this morning (Hong Kong time). I even try to install the old version but it said that the database is saved with newer version and don't allow me to proceed
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Inappropriate?andrewscfan - are you downloading from the main Miro site? Did you copy the sqlitedb_backup_pre80 to sqlitedb. Then did you start and give it a lot of time to do the update?
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Inappropriate?Installing the newest build off of test3 fixes the issue for me as well. It takes a very long time to upgrade the database - be patient.
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Inappropriate?I have tried downloading and installing several times, and still get the same message
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Inappropriate?The new 2.5 installer did not produce the 'disk space' error for me. However, after completing the installation the final dialogue box asking if I want to run Miro now (with the check box) did nothing upon clicking Ok. No hard drive activity, nothing. To initiate the database upgrade I had to launch it from the installer. A minor thing but thought someone might want to know.
Actual conversion time was around 20 minutes. I'm running Windows XP Home (SP3) on a quad core AMD...if that matters.
The second startup for Miro only took about 30 seconds, a significant improvement over 2.0. Of course the real test will follow a reboot.
Unfortunately, the program is still crashing each time I close it.2 Comments Add a comment
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Loads and runs beautifully, but still not closing normally, but I can live with that.
I'm running Miro 2.5-test3 (runknown)
I just stopped it and reloaded -- took about 10 seconds for the Miro guide to appear, and another few seconds for the page to populate.
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I should have added that I encounter another problem with some videos not stopping, but hanging the program. The only way to recover appears to be to quit the program, as far as I am aware -- I don't like waiting.
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Inappropriate?I have tried all of the suggested solutions, and Miro still hangs on the "insufficient storage" error and does nothing. Why don"t u guys beta test the releases first.1 Comment Add a comment
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Dan: We're working on a 2.5.1 release that will better fix the problem for some people. In the meantime, email me your logs so that we can verify whether you've got the same problem other people do. My email address is will.guaraldi@pculture.org.
Log files can be found on XP at:
C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp\miro.log
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Inappropriate?I'm using a new Macbook pro and have tried several times to install with no luck.
I cleaned everything Miro off the HD. Got plenty of disk space. No go.
I do have the HD partitioned with Windows XP on 5gb but not running.
Worked fine on my imac at home.
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Still get the No disk space after many tries. How can they say the problem is solved?
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Did you copy the sqlitedb_backup_pre80 file to sqlitedb?
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No, I have no idea how to do that. Did a spotlight search on sqlitedb and found nothing.
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on os x - look in /Users/<you>/Library/Application Support/Miro
Then download the lastest installer from getmiro.com
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Inappropriate?I'm still having the same problem and have downloaded a new installer and uninstalled the old version first, before running the NEW installer. I can't seem to locate the log files as requested either. HELP!
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I have now located the log files and made the file changes Lance suggested above as follows:
I went into the C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\ directory and saw three files: sqlitedb, sqlitedb_backup_80 and sqlitedb_backup_pre80. I renamed them all, adding a .old to them and then made a copy of the sqlite_backup_pre80 file and called it just sqlite. Next time I ran Miro, it began the db update process. After about 5-10 mins, success! Hope this helps some people.</username>
This did get Miro running, but still with full disk errors from within the program and I lost all my feed subscriptions. -
I have a 4 gig laptop, I deleted all the other miro installations, downloaded a new miro, but when I start it it says upgrading and then immediately changes to insufficient space and I have nothing running except avast antivirus.
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Inappropriate?I can only agree with the problem: I installed actual version 2.5 (some tries in last two days, even with previous cleaning of registry) without any previous version but get the error of full disk space. So it seem to be not only a problem occuring when updating a previous version / database.
I tried to find the suggested files "spl..." but they are not established with install or first-time running the program. Installation process was finalized without error.
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Inappropriate?I had the same problem with the so called 'not enough disc space', but it was solved by using Frank's advice! Just do it! Thanks to Frank!
greetings Jos , the Netherlands
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Hi,
thanks for answer - I already tried (more than once) but failed ... I suppose (without being a tech-pro) that it is a problem of creating (when installing first-time) the database or update the database (when upgrading). Because the advice (even if grateful to you and some others) solves not everything I posted ...
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I'm sorry, I mean thanks Lance!
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Inappropriate?Solved the problem by following Lance's recommendations. Thanks!! That was incredibly easy.
I’m satisfied!
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Inappropriate?Base on the information in this blog, I found the database, deleted it and has fresh start. My Miro is back but it take quite a long time to recover my previous subscription. Apart from that, some feed has large number of old post and it take a lot of effort to get rid of
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Inappropriate?If you're reading through this forum and still having problems, it's very likely that your Miro database is currently "wedged". Several people have sent me log files and it looks like Miro wedges itself in different places.
This post covers locations of things and then has several sets of steps that walk through solutions.
Download Miro 2.5.1
First, I encourage you to download Miro 2.5.1 which is based on the test3 release we tested with you folks a couple of days ago. You can get it here:
Windows:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
OSX:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
Source:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
Database locations
The database files are located in different places on different platforms/systems:
Windows XP:
C:\\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\
Vista:
C:\\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\
OSX:
/Users/[USERNAME]/Library/Application Support/Miro/
More details at https://develop.participatoryculture.... .
Restoring from conversion backup
Miro makes a backup before it attempts the conversion. We're going to restore the backup and let Miro try updating the database again.
1. Make sure Miro isn't running.
2. Find your Miro sqlitedb directory. See the paths above.
3. In that directory should be a file called "sqlitedb" and a file called "sqlitedb_pre80".
4. Rename "sqlitedb" to "sqlitedb.bak".
5. Copy "sqlitedb_pre80" into the same directory and rename the copy "sqlitedb".
6. Try Launching Miro again.
The email for support option
Email your logs and the contents of your database directory to will.guaraldi@pculture.org. I will look at the logs and determine where your Miro database is wedged and will help you unwedge it. This will probably take a couple of days.
Windows XP:
C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp\
Windows Vista:
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Local\Temp\
OSX:
/Users/[USERNAME]/Library/Application Support/Miro/
More details at https://develop.participatoryculture.... .
The nuclear option
If you don't care about your feed data or you don't mind rebuilding it, delete all the database files. The location of the database files is earlier in this post.
Note that doing this will cause Miro to lose all your subscription information, but it should get you going if you want/need Miro working right now.
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That is what I did and it is working now, thanks
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Inappropriate?Version 2.5.1 gave me the same problem.
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Did you follow the directions for unwedging your database? If those don't work, email your logs to will.guaraldi@pculture.org
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Inappropriate?No luck with the instruction here
1. Make sure Miro isn't running.
2. Find your Miro sqlitedb directory. See the paths above.
3. In that directory should be a file called "sqlitedb" and a file called "sqlitedb_pre80".
4. Rename "sqlitedb" to "sqlitedb.bak".
5. Copy "sqlitedb_pre80" into the same directory and rename the copy "sqlitedb".
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Inappropriate?The problem still persists after trying the 2.5.1 version and even after deleting the entire database. In case of the latter, after the database was gone and I started Miro, an error message about "not enough space" and "unable to save database" appeared repeatedly..
I then tried importing my channels back into Miro and it worked, except for the error popping up every so often. When I close Miro and restart it the channels are still there, but so are the frequent error messages.. I have at least 30GB free on the drive and no clue why this shouldn't be enough..
I’m very, very, really frustrated
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Inappropriate?slurm23 - I think there must be something else going on here. Can you please send to me your log files and databases, jed@pculture.org.
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Inappropriate?new install on this cm[uter/ no disk space. f this. get yur house in order.
Dear "company" this is not fixd
I’m outta here
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Inappropriate?Miro seems to have taken a wrong turn in my opinion.. Now it won't install over the last version, if you delete all your files it still brings up a "not enough space" error every 30 seconds AND it won't even play videos anymore (showing instead a gray screen with sound)..
I do understand that developing free software can be quite demanding and I'm appreciative, but please address those issues before continuing to implement new features! I for one am going back to 2.0.X and won't bother with future updates for at least another six months...
The pain I had with Miro over the last week (and to no avail) is something I just don't need - if I did, I'd be using Windows Media Player instead..
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Inappropriate?And I forgot to mention another "feature"... What is up with you deciding in what language I want to use Miro - is it not up to the user anymore to make that decision? Why am I not allowed to change the application's language from the system default..
I’m confused
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I don't know what's going on in your machine, but the guys had the "not enough space for database" error licked withing 24-48 hours of being apprised of it. I was among those who reported it and within hours there was a fix for it. Since then I've installed updates as they've occurred and the program's been running well. The only "problem" I still see is that at least under Vista Home Premium Miro doesn't appear to close down normally. While it's a bug, it doesn't interfere with my use of the program and overall it appears to be functioning well.
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slurm23: Miro has always used the system default language as the language to use for the interface. That's pretty common.
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Well, for me the bug is still there.. Even if I delete the db-file and all my videos, it brings a "not enough space to save database" error during normal operation (you heard right - after a clean, fresh, new install).. So unless Miro needs more than 15GB of space on my HDD the error is still there.. And with Miro 2.0.5 (to which I was forced to revert) I have English as the application language, if I chose it as installation language before install. Maybe no German translation was provided with the old version and it reverted to English by itself, but I'm quite sure it only depended on the installation language (which makes much more sense by the way) - well, this one is no biggy, but quite bothersome.. And finally - the videos don't play anymore at all and only show a gray screen with sound.. I had the same problem with VLC itself recently (they claim it's one of last weeks WinXP security updates), but was able to resolve it by disabling the "Overlay output video".. Unfortunately Miro doesn't provide access to the advanced options. So to sum up - the latest version of Miro has been a huge disappointment for me personally (even though it seems most people are happy with it - which I find curious, since I have a run of the mill, virus-free, no-sypware, clean and perfectly working WinXP system)..
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Inappropriate?I had the same problem & applied the fixes above & it worked. However it seems I have lost all my feeds & now all videos are placed in one folder with common names & no references to what category they came from. Anything that can be done to restore this - what a mess?
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Pemo: When you say "applied the fixes above" which fixes above are you referring to? What exactly did you do? Did you delete the sqlitedb file? When you say "it worked", what do you mean by that?
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Inappropriate?Fixes as per follows:
Download Miro 2.5.1
First, I encourage you to download Miro 2.5.1 which is based on the test3 release we tested with you folks a couple of days ago. You can get it here:
Windows:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
I went into the C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\ directory and saw three files: sqlitedb, sqlitedb_backup_80 and sqlitedb_backup_pre80. I renamed them all, adding a .old to them and then made a copy of the sqlite_backup_pre80 file and called it just sqlite.
Pemo: I am running Windows 7 OS. </username>
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Did you name the new file "sqlite" or "sqlitedb"? The database file needs to be named "sqlitedb" otherwise Miro creates a new database file and you lose all your feeds and feed information.
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I named it sqlite as per my earlier comment & notes earlier in the forum, so does that mean I have lost my feeds for good?
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Whether you lost your feed information or not depends on exactly what you did.
1. Shut down Miro.
2. Find your Miro database directory.
3. Copy the sqlite_backup_pre80 file to sqlitedb.
4. Restart Miro
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Inappropriate?pemo - 2.5.1 had a bug the cause items to incorrectly expire, so we followed that with a quick 2.5.2 update that corrected the problem.
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2.5.2 is the version I have upgraded but I had tried with other ones before I went onto this forum. I have Windows 7 OS.
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Inappropriate?pemo - see this post, perhaps it will help if you are missing data: http://getsatisfaction.com/participat...
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Inappropriate?Thanks the exe program cannot find file 'sqliteb_backup_80 - I gather because it has been changed to .old file.
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Inappropriate?Thanks for info above Will, did u mean change file name from the sqlite_backup_pre80 file to sqlitedb? I can do that & hopefull that will solve the issue. Just confirm that you meant change file name cause not sure what copy means with these files? Scuse my ignorance.
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Inappropriate?If you are trying to recover lost items. Rename the sqlitedb_backup_80.old to sqlitedb_backup_80 - then it should work.
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009-08-06 16:58:46,905 WARNING Don't know what locale to choose for code '1033'
2009-08-06 16:58:47,608 INFO Python version: 2.5 (r25:51908, Sep 19 2006, 09:52:17) [MSC v.1310 32 bit (Intel)]
2009-08-06 16:58:47,608 INFO Gtk+ version: (2, 14, 7)
2009-08-06 16:58:47,608 INFO PyGObject version: (2, 12, 3)
2009-08-06 16:58:47,608 INFO PyGtk version: (2, 12, 1)
2009-08-06 16:58:47,608 INFO Initializing VLC
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO Starting up Miro
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO Version: 2.5.1
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO OS: Windows XP
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO Revision: https://svn.participatoryculture.org/... - 9904
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO Builder: pcf_developer@pcfbuild
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO Build Time: 1248494655.16
2009-08-06 16:58:48,217 INFO Starting event loop thread
2009-08-06 16:58:48,233 INFO Restoring database...
2009-08-06 16:58:48,233 INFO path of database: C:\DOCUME~1\Admin\APPLIC~1\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\sqlitedb
2009-08-06 16:58:48,250 INFO Vacuuming the db before shutting down.
2009-08-06 16:58:55,608 INFO upgrading database to version 81
2009-08-06 16:58:55,608 ERROR OperationalError when upgrading database: duplicate column name: state
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "miro\storedatabase.pyc", line 162, in upgrade_database
File "miro\storedatabase.pyc", line 211, in _upgrade_database
File "miro\databaseupgrade.pyc", line 92, in new_style_upgrade
File "miro\databaseupgrade.pyc", line 1972, in upgrade81
OperationalError: duplicate column name: state
2009-08-06 16:58:57,062 INFO Shutting down Downloader...
2009-08-06 16:58:57,062 INFO Shutting down event loop
2009-08-06 16:58:57,062 INFO Closing Database...
2009-08-06 16:58:57,062 INFO Vacuuming the db before shutting down.
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO Shutting down...
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 TIMING idle (shutdown() (using asUrgent)) too slow (7.031 secs)
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 TIMING idle (shutdown() (using asUrgent)) cumulative is too slow (7.031 secs)
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO Saving preferences...
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO Shutting down icon cache updates
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO Shutting down movie data updates
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO Done shutting down.
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO Remaining threads are:
2009-08-06 16:59:04,092 INFO <thread>
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1. Shut down Miro.
2. Find your Miro database directory.
3. Copy the sqlite_backup_pre80 file to sqlitedb.
4. Restart Miro
Miro will redo the upgrade and you should be fine. If you can't find the sqlite_backup_pre80 file or you no longer have it, then you have probably lost your feeds for good. – Will Kahn-Greene,
as the install db convert of 2.5 corrupted the database file the copy of the backup file worked with 2.5.2 ver ;) -
Inappropriate?I just tried updating Miro on my WinXP laptop and the same issue appeared! Miro 2.5.2 installer wasn't able to convert my database saying it needed more space (have about 40GB of free space).. Great solution to this problem!
I’m anxious
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slurm23: Send the log files to jed. Also, multiple problems can have the same symptoms. Like you said, it seems we've solved the problems most people were having. Maybe we haven't solved yours yet.
Also, I thought you said you were going to go back to Miro 2.0.5 and skip the Miro 2.5 series. Did you decide not to do that? -
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Inappropriate?Yeah, well - I couldn't stick to my resolution to stay away from Miro 2.5.. So now on both my computers I have version 2.5.2 with a freshly installed DB (nothing left from the previous version).. The improvements in speed and the fact, that I lost my whole DB in the process of testing the new version and reverting back several times left me with little choice actually.
Now every so often this error pops up saying: "Miro was unable to save its database: Disk Full. We suggest deleting files from the full disk or simply deleting some movies from your collection. Recent changes may be lost." Unnecessary to say that I have some 70GB free on the only HDD with which Miro does interact.
Miro works flawlessly if I click this error away with "OK" an continue running it. Changes to the feeds and to the actual media content are saved and nothing is missing even after doing away with this error for many hours. Of course it is pretty much unusable since I have to press "OK" as often as 20 times/minute sometimes (especially when download activity is high). Lately I have started to just put something heavy on my "Enter" button, thus skipping this error the old school way :-( Obviously not the perfect solution, no?
Now my question and request for the Miro Devs:
Could you please, pretty, pretty please just REMOVE THIS ERROR MESSAGE from the code? Obviously something goes wrong in the internal DB-management, but it is of no consequence to the user. Everything but the error message itself works perfectly - so maybe this message would be more useful in a log-file or should just be REMOVED completely. I imagine it can't be that hard to just kill it for good.
So again: please help me with this issue, since it is killing me.. P.S. I've tried the nightly builds to no avail - seems people with this issue are left alone. And since both of my computers (laptop and desktop) have the same issue I would guess a lot more people could be experiencing it, considering that only a tiny fraction would go through all the trouble and post a bug report.
I’m very, very frustrated
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Inappropriate?I'm annoyed by the same behaviour. WinXP, upgraded to Miro 2.5.2. Could not convert old database, "disk out of space" errors even if I moved all videos to a non-miro folder. Disk is not out of space, far from it.
Started database from scratch, now Miro starts but keeps complaining about Disk full and database saved errors at a rate of several / minute. Especially when downloading new videos. Seems to me that the bug still needs fixing.
I’m troubled at the reduction of Miro's usability
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Inappropriate?Idea: could the repeated writing of C:\Documents and Settings\YourAccount\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\sqlitedb and sqlitedb-journal be the culprit, combined with windows virus scanner software. If the files keep changing every second and scanned each time, Miro could not get write locks on occasion and the scanning and writing would cause heavy disk IO.
Possible solution: add the dir and/or files in C:\Documents and Settings\YourAccount\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\sqlitedb to your virus scanner's excluded list.
I’m thinking of possible causes and solutions
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Neva: If you could test this out and let us know, that would be awesome. The bug for the "disk is full"/"database saved" is bug 12101:
http://bugzilla.pculture.org/show_bug...
We've been pretty stuck on it since none of us can reproduce the issue. It could be dependent on the virus scanning software being used, too.
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Tried the exclude, and Avira doesn't say it would have scanned anymore Miro files after the change.
Sadly, the problem persists. Heavy disk IO when Miro is running, with only a transfer of 100kb/s.
I have more pictures, should I post them here or in Bugzilla?
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Pictures? What are the pictures of?
Miro logs everything to the Miro log file. If you read through that, it tells you what it's doing. There should be lines in there with the word OperationalError in them. After OperationalError, it prints the cause of the operational error. If you could look through the causes in your log and:
1) see if they're all the same cause or a bunch of different causes, and
2) copy and paste the causes here
that'd help a lot.
Having said that, if we could move discussion on analysis and fixing to bugzilla, that makes our lives easier since all the information is in one place rather than in multiple places.
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I made a bugzilla account and posted the material there. Shortened here for reference:
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2009-09-15 16:31:14,690 TIMING WARNING: Running: <miro> too slow (1.080 secs)
2009-09-15 16:31:15,799 TIMING WARNING: Running: <miro> too slow (1.097 secs)
2009-09-15 16:31:19,657 TIMING WARNING: Running: <miro> too slow (1.029 secs)
2009-09-15 16:31:20,532 WARNING SQL Operational Error: unable to open database file
2009-09-15 16:31:25,517 TIMING timeout (retry statements) too slow (3.665 secs)
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Inappropriate?FWIW, I get alot! of those TIMING WARNING messages (of various reasons) but no OperationError.
I dont have any disc space problems, and shutting down is fine.
I do have the major hd activity on the db drive (my videos go onto a different drive). [ I think its gonna kill my hd in time..]
Miro 2.5 git (c4ef1d63) ( a nightly from maybe 2 weeks ago ?)
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Inappropriate?I'm back again as had to reload my hard drive. Uninstalled Miro & then installed new version. Now when it tries to upgrade the database it just crashes. This happens even since rebooting. Unable to get it to open. Any ideas???
I’m frustrated
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Inappropriate?If you keep getting messages like that, then, probably, another program, running on your computer, has access to the database.
Try to close any application that indexes or monitors your files (antivirus, Google desktop search, Copernic etc). When you finally find which one is responsible, add an exception, excluding the folder where the database is.
I hope this will help you all!
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This worked for me! Thanks Nikos that crap was driving me crazy!! Only need to exclude the database file itself though, not the folder ...(I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials on Windows 7 and Vista and was getting the messages on both)
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Inappropriate?I'm using Miro for the first time. My WinXP computer installed it flawlessly, but my Vista PC has the same problem as above. Since I don't have a database as this is my first time, what am I supposed to do to fix it?
I’m confused
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try Nikos' fix stingray...worked for me! (exclude database file from anti-virus scanning)
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Inappropriate?stingray - you should file a new bug report. See https://develop.participatoryculture.... to get started and use https://develop.participatoryculture.... to locate your log files and attach them to the bug.
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