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Disk space error after upgrading Miro to 2.5
I just upgraded from Miro 2.0.5 to Miro 2.5 on Windows Vista Home Premium. I simply installed the new version over the old version. Now, when I attempt to run the new version, I receive the following error message:
Not enough disk space to upgrade your database from the previous version of Miro. Please delete some files and try again.
I have over 140gigabytes free on my drive. I tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling but it did not help. Any ideas?
Thanks, Rick
Not enough disk space to upgrade your database from the previous version of Miro. Please delete some files and try again.
I have over 140gigabytes free on my drive. I tried completely uninstalling and reinstalling but it did not help. Any ideas?
Thanks, Rick
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If you're reading through this forum and still having problems, it's very likely that your Miro database is currently "wedged". Several people have sent me log files and it looks like Miro wedges itself in different places.
This post covers locations of things and then has several sets of steps that walk through solutions.
Download Miro 2.5.1
First, I encourage you to download Miro 2.5.1 which is based on the test3 release we tested with you folks a couple of days ago. You can get it here:
Windows:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
OSX:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
Source:
http://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/pculture.or...
Database locations
The database files are located in different places on different platforms/systems:
Windows XP:
C:\\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\
Vista:
C:\\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Roaming\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\
OSX:
/Users/[USERNAME]/Library/Application Support/Miro/
More details at https://develop.participatoryculture.... .
Restoring from conversion backup
Miro makes a backup before it attempts the conversion. We're going to restore the backup and let Miro try updating the database again.
1. Make sure Miro isn't running.
2. Find your Miro sqlitedb directory. See the paths above.
3. In that directory should be a file called "sqlitedb" and a file called "sqlitedb_pre80".
4. Rename "sqlitedb" to "sqlitedb.bak".
5. Copy "sqlitedb_pre80" into the same directory and rename the copy "sqlitedb".
6. Try Launching Miro again.
The email for support option
Email your logs and the contents of your database directory to will.guaraldi@pculture.org. I will look at the logs and determine where your Miro database is wedged and will help you unwedge it. This will probably take a couple of days.
Windows XP:
C:\Documents and Settings\[USERNAME]\Local Settings\Temp\
Windows Vista:
C:\Users\[USERNAME]\AppData\Local\Temp\
OSX:
/Users/[USERNAME]/Library/Application Support/Miro/
More details at https://develop.participatoryculture.... .
The nuclear option
If you don't care about your feed data or you don't mind rebuilding it, delete all the database files. The location of the database files is earlier in this post.
Note that doing this will cause Miro to lose all your subscription information, but it should get you going if you want/need Miro working right now.
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I just pushed out a new set of installers based on test3.
To anyone still having this problem, please:
1. go to http://getmiro.com/ and download a new Miro 2.5 installer
2. re-install Miro 2.5
3. launch Miro and let Miro upgrade the database
Step 3 takes a lot of time depending on how big your database is. Unfortunately, there's no ui indicating what's going on. I really apologize for this and we'll fix it soon.
In the meantime, launch Miro and let it do its thing. I've heard reports that this takes anywhere from 15 seconds to 15 minutes.
Hope that helps.
Again, my apologies for the frustration we caused.
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So I think I know what caused the recurring issue. When I first installed the updated (2.5) version, it took a really long time to start up. I thought it wasn't working and killed the process. Then, I tried again, and killed it again. All subsequent attempts resulted in the space error. So I went into the C:\Documents and Settings\<username>\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation \Miro\Support\ directory and saw three files: sqlitedb, sqlitedb_backup_80 and sqlitedb_backup_pre80. I renamed them all, adding a .old to them and then made a copy of the sqlite_backup_pre80 file and called it just sqlite. Next time I ran Miro, it began the db update process. After about 5-10 mins, success! Hope this helps some people.</username>
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Inappropriate?I just tried updating Miro on my WinXP laptop and the same issue appeared! Miro 2.5.2 installer wasn't able to convert my database saying it needed more space (have about 40GB of free space).. Great solution to this problem!
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slurm23: Send the log files to jed. Also, multiple problems can have the same symptoms. Like you said, it seems we've solved the problems most people were having. Maybe we haven't solved yours yet.
Also, I thought you said you were going to go back to Miro 2.0.5 and skip the Miro 2.5 series. Did you decide not to do that? -
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Inappropriate?Yeah, well - I couldn't stick to my resolution to stay away from Miro 2.5.. So now on both my computers I have version 2.5.2 with a freshly installed DB (nothing left from the previous version).. The improvements in speed and the fact, that I lost my whole DB in the process of testing the new version and reverting back several times left me with little choice actually.
Now every so often this error pops up saying: "Miro was unable to save its database: Disk Full. We suggest deleting files from the full disk or simply deleting some movies from your collection. Recent changes may be lost." Unnecessary to say that I have some 70GB free on the only HDD with which Miro does interact.
Miro works flawlessly if I click this error away with "OK" an continue running it. Changes to the feeds and to the actual media content are saved and nothing is missing even after doing away with this error for many hours. Of course it is pretty much unusable since I have to press "OK" as often as 20 times/minute sometimes (especially when download activity is high). Lately I have started to just put something heavy on my "Enter" button, thus skipping this error the old school way :-( Obviously not the perfect solution, no?
Now my question and request for the Miro Devs:
Could you please, pretty, pretty please just REMOVE THIS ERROR MESSAGE from the code? Obviously something goes wrong in the internal DB-management, but it is of no consequence to the user. Everything but the error message itself works perfectly - so maybe this message would be more useful in a log-file or should just be REMOVED completely. I imagine it can't be that hard to just kill it for good.
So again: please help me with this issue, since it is killing me.. P.S. I've tried the nightly builds to no avail - seems people with this issue are left alone. And since both of my computers (laptop and desktop) have the same issue I would guess a lot more people could be experiencing it, considering that only a tiny fraction would go through all the trouble and post a bug report.
I’m very, very frustrated
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Inappropriate?I'm annoyed by the same behaviour. WinXP, upgraded to Miro 2.5.2. Could not convert old database, "disk out of space" errors even if I moved all videos to a non-miro folder. Disk is not out of space, far from it.
Started database from scratch, now Miro starts but keeps complaining about Disk full and database saved errors at a rate of several / minute. Especially when downloading new videos. Seems to me that the bug still needs fixing.
I’m troubled at the reduction of Miro's usability
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Inappropriate?Idea: could the repeated writing of C:\Documents and Settings\YourAccount\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\sqlitedb and sqlitedb-journal be the culprit, combined with windows virus scanner software. If the files keep changing every second and scanned each time, Miro could not get write locks on occasion and the scanning and writing would cause heavy disk IO.
Possible solution: add the dir and/or files in C:\Documents and Settings\YourAccount\Application Data\Participatory Culture Foundation\Miro\Support\sqlitedb to your virus scanner's excluded list.
I’m thinking of possible causes and solutions
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Neva: If you could test this out and let us know, that would be awesome. The bug for the "disk is full"/"database saved" is bug 12101:
http://bugzilla.pculture.org/show_bug...
We've been pretty stuck on it since none of us can reproduce the issue. It could be dependent on the virus scanning software being used, too.
Once we know the correct cause, it'd make it a lot easier to code up a work-around. -
Tried the exclude, and Avira doesn't say it would have scanned anymore Miro files after the change.
Sadly, the problem persists. Heavy disk IO when Miro is running, with only a transfer of 100kb/s.
I have more pictures, should I post them here or in Bugzilla?
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Pictures? What are the pictures of?
Miro logs everything to the Miro log file. If you read through that, it tells you what it's doing. There should be lines in there with the word OperationalError in them. After OperationalError, it prints the cause of the operational error. If you could look through the causes in your log and:
1) see if they're all the same cause or a bunch of different causes, and
2) copy and paste the causes here
that'd help a lot.
Having said that, if we could move discussion on analysis and fixing to bugzilla, that makes our lives easier since all the information is in one place rather than in multiple places.
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I made a bugzilla account and posted the material there. Shortened here for reference:
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2009-09-15 16:31:14,690 TIMING WARNING: Running: <miro> too slow (1.080 secs)
2009-09-15 16:31:15,799 TIMING WARNING: Running: <miro> too slow (1.097 secs)
2009-09-15 16:31:19,657 TIMING WARNING: Running: <miro> too slow (1.029 secs)
2009-09-15 16:31:20,532 WARNING SQL Operational Error: unable to open database file
2009-09-15 16:31:25,517 TIMING timeout (retry statements) too slow (3.665 secs)
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Inappropriate?FWIW, I get alot! of those TIMING WARNING messages (of various reasons) but no OperationError.
I dont have any disc space problems, and shutting down is fine.
I do have the major hd activity on the db drive (my videos go onto a different drive). [ I think its gonna kill my hd in time..]
Miro 2.5 git (c4ef1d63) ( a nightly from maybe 2 weeks ago ?)
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Inappropriate?I'm back again as had to reload my hard drive. Uninstalled Miro & then installed new version. Now when it tries to upgrade the database it just crashes. This happens even since rebooting. Unable to get it to open. Any ideas???
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Inappropriate?If you keep getting messages like that, then, probably, another program, running on your computer, has access to the database.
Try to close any application that indexes or monitors your files (antivirus, Google desktop search, Copernic etc). When you finally find which one is responsible, add an exception, excluding the folder where the database is.
I hope this will help you all!
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This worked for me! Thanks Nikos that crap was driving me crazy!! Only need to exclude the database file itself though, not the folder ...(I'm using Microsoft Security Essentials on Windows 7 and Vista and was getting the messages on both)
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Inappropriate?I'm using Miro for the first time. My WinXP computer installed it flawlessly, but my Vista PC has the same problem as above. Since I don't have a database as this is my first time, what am I supposed to do to fix it?
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try Nikos' fix stingray...worked for me! (exclude database file from anti-virus scanning)
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Inappropriate?stingray - you should file a new bug report. See https://develop.participatoryculture.... to get started and use https://develop.participatoryculture.... to locate your log files and attach them to the bug.
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