Removing borders from a table

Thanks for your help but no - I do not see how I can modify the borders in the settings menu. I read some other threads on adding manually a style with a HTML - but this does not work either. Seems to be related that the CSS overrules the page setting. Therefore I purchased a 'silver edition with CSS editing' - but I do not see how I can modify the CSS that applies to my site.

You must create a 'wiki.css' file with the appropriate CSS settings and upload it to your wiki.

Can you briefly explain (or point to a forum)
1) what I put in the wiki.css file to have no borders in tables, and
2) how I upload it to my wiki (have a silver subscription + CSS editing) - like where do I put it / store it?
thanks!

Well, there are no more forums, just Get Satisfaction. There's only one place to upload files, using 'Upload/view files'. This puts everything in a single location. If you put a wiki.css file there, your wiki should automatically detect and load it.

The exact CSS to use is undocumented. You will have to parse the source code and existing CSS files manually to determine the best CSS to meet your needs. I'll see what I can figure out, but, since everything in 2.0 is "beta", there's no guarantee it will work for you, or continue work as they move forward.

Thanks Guy, making progress - sorry for my ignorance - am new to wikis.
I found some things on Get Satisfaction but no true satisfaction yet :)
I did the following:
1) made a new empty text file wiki.css
2) put the following line in it:
#displaycontent table.borderless tr td { border:0 !important;}
3) uploaded this file wiki.css it to my site in the file upload area
4) went into the source code of the page containing the table
5) changed the table definition into:
<table class="borderless" width="700">
.... thus adding the class "borderless" to it, and putting the border width to zero

...
But no succes, the border remains. Any further ideas?
</table>

correction: the full HTML line I change added in the page is
'<' table class="borderless" cellspacing="1" cellpadding="0" width="700" border="0" '>'
But this does not work

Now that I've had some coffee, it occurs to me: I didn't think you could upgrade 2.0 wikis yet. Are you sure you're using a 2.0 wiki with 'Silver'?

Coffee always helps. From what I understand it is a 2.0 wiki (e.g, sizable window hiding the toolbars) and Silver as I have a 1 gB size limit.
On my online purchase it said (sorry for the Dutch)
"U hebt u aangemeld voor een abonnement op Upgrade <site name="true"> to Silver with Customizable CSS via PayPal"
</site>

Ah, I see it now. 2.0 has "gone live".

Unfortunately, since they have disabled inline CSS for 2.0, and I do not have access to a Premium 2.0 wiki, I can no longer test this under 2.0. You will have to wait until the PBwiki staff wakes up (they are in California) to assist you. My apologies.

Ok thanks for now - I thought California never sleeps....

to generally hide table borders in 2.0:
.wikistyle table td, .wikistyle table th {border:none;}

to hide table borders for a 2.0 table with class "borderless":
.borderless tbody td, .borderless tbody th { border: none; }

Where and how do I put this in wiki.css? I do not have one yet. Do I just start a blank text file, or is that a start template I can/should work from.

You purchased a 'silver edition with CSS editing'. Which means you can upload your own wiki.css that will overwrite default skins with custom css.
You have to make your own custom wiki.css file and upload that to the file directory of your wiki. You only have to make declarations for things you wanna change.

Where to start?
tip #1 Use Firefox browser and get the Web Developer extension. With this combo it's real easy to view various components of a wiki page.
tip #2 Download the CSS stylesheet(s) used on your wiki. View source and look for <link rel="stylesheet" href=... to get the url's. Study 'm.
tip #3 2.0 style sheets are hard to read: copy all css code to a plain-text editor, do a find for } and replace with }return (or the like), this will make it easier.

Good luck!

ouch.. and all this just to remove the border from my table :)
But hey - I am hanging in there and will try, and thanks for the detailed info.
But before I can go on, I now don't understand how to download the the CSS stylesheet(s) used on my wiki?

Use the 'View Source' function in your browser, and look for a line containing a .css file name, like so:

<link rel="stylesheet" href="http://vs2.pbwiki.com/layout/common/css/packed-m-v080328125899457.css" type="text/css" media="screen,projection" />

Copy out the entire filename, like so:

http://vs2.pbwiki.com/layout/common/c...

and paste it into your browser's address bar. This will display the contents of the file so you can view it.

Ouch.. and all this just to .. you paid for it, hu? Benefit!
hanging in there. . Anyone told you it was gonna be easy?

The old version of PB wiki allowed you to set borders to 0 in table settings. If the default CSS is forcing borders ro be displayed, it would be nice if the pbwiki folks would modify it so that whatyouseeiswhatyouaskfor. There's a similar problem with image alignment. It's no longer possible to get images to wrap around the left or right side of an image, even with an align="left/right" attribute.

Please what is the simple way to make borders not show.
I thought choosing table properties and border=0 should do it .
There isnt any point in allowing users to put border=0 if it doesnt work.

why doesnt it? i dont want to have to mess about with stylesheets...
surely there should not be any stylesheets that actually force a border when it is 0?

thanks joe, what is the difficult way? as i cant understand the previous comments...

We're still working out the border issue, however, you can also make the border white, so it doesn't show up. This is done in Cell Properties, I believe.

Thanks Casey - this finally solves the question for for me without having to going into editing the stylesheet or anything!
But note that this only works in Firefox. Internet explorer 7 fails to display the cell properties when right-clicking on a table cell in an edit session.

Curses! Foiled again! :P

This is what I have as the table style line of code in my source:

< td style="border-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); background-color: rgb(233, 242, 245);" >

The RGB code I have in there, btw, is the color of the standard light blue background of a 2.0 wiki, but you can also use hex code in the source as well.

*Edited border rgb code to actually be white, lol*

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Go up to Insert PlugIn in Edit mode, PBWikiMagic, HTML and insert this: (you can copy and paste):
<style>.wikistyle table td, .wikistyle table th { border:none; }</style>

Hello,

When you visit your table properties menu now, you'll see that there is a "Has Border" checkbox. Just uncheck this box if you'd like to remove borders from your table.