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Jan replied on July 13, 2008 23:06 to the problem "The Twitter Whale is Eating my Tweets" in Twitter:
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Yes, I can relate to that. I hope that with the improvements to the API limits, I can just stick to Twitbin (my preferred third party Twitter app) and won't have to check Summize for any @replies that I may have missed. 8-) – mdy, on July 10, 2008 05:36
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I have an account at ping.fm and use it fairly often, but it does me no good when I can't be sure I'll be able to see any replies or conversation around my tweets. – Alex Conner, on July 10, 2008 05:11
mdy replied on July 10, 2008 02:02 to the problem "When is pagination coming back?" in Twitter:
Oh, and I forgot to mention also that I've lately been using http://ping.fm to post tweets. Perhaps this might be interesting enough to get you out of your 'read-only' state, Alex. 8-)
It's a service that takes your update and posts it into multiple services in one go. Twitter and identi.ca are both supported.
The invite code for sign-ups routinely changes, but it is currently "dreamofping" in case you're interested.
mdy replied on July 10, 2008 01:32 to the problem "When is pagination coming back?" in Twitter:
Hi quepol and Alex.
FWIW, the API limit had been raised yesterday from 20 to 40, then later to 70.
As of now, the API limit is at 100. A thread in the Twitter Dev Google Group says the API limit of 100 is in test mode, which is why no official announcements have been made yet. But they're hoping to not go below 70 after the test.
Looks like their last two infra upgrades have given them enough capacity to do this. 8-)
Alex Conner replied on July 09, 2008 21:44 to the problem "When is pagination coming back?" in Twitter:
I've actually gone to being read only with Twitter by using a desktop RSS reader and subscribing to all of my friends feeds (that was NOT an easy task).
I'm currently hanging out at identi.ca until Twitter can get their stuffs together, or until identi.ca gains RSS support.
Twitter, you're racing someone with an advantage!
quepol replied on July 09, 2008 21:33 to the problem "When is pagination coming back?" in Twitter:
Alex - I, too, am still missing the Older button on my main account after weeks (months?) of it being grayed out. The only thing keeping Twitter alive for me is Socialthing. They must get updates via XMPP because you can get older updates. I have abandoned everything else (including the Twitter web site) because the API is useless with a 20 req/hr limit.
Alex Conner replied on July 04, 2008 13:29 to the problem "When is pagination coming back?" in Twitter:
I have been without pagination for a month now, and it is making twitter completely useless for me. I am missing my friends tweets, so I may as well not even be using the system at all. Using summize, etc. is not an option because a number of my friends have their tweets protected, so I end up opening every one of their profiles to see if they have tweeted, then I have to sit and pound the web interface to keep updated. Seriously, taking away pagination is NOT helping DB load, at least not in my case.
The Twitter team needs to get some things accomplished, I have seen very little out of this company on the way of anything. The only thing you guys have done is throw more DB servers at the problem and turn off features. I can't even use a 3rd party client like Twhirl because the API is so jacked up.-
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Noah David Simon @TheAnalysis replied on June 11, 2008 10:47 to the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:
Ariel works for Pounce? now I get what is going on.. ... yeah she blocked me on my first day ever using twitter. she isn't nice. I could see why a stalker would want a piece of her. Motive with a capital "M"... she is probably telling the truth. I was angered enough by her behavior to spiral out of control. I think it is time we start blaming the victim... just a bit. come on people. bring out the inner "Nelson" is all of us and go "HA HA"
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Carter: I am confused as to how your Web site relates to this conversation. Is there something I am missing? – Eric Suesz, on June 05, 2008 21:10
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HARASSMENT she is saying I can't read and probably secretly thinking the typical European comment "Stupid American." Thats basically racism! BAN! Oh and did I mention I started a website? www.whatisitmadeof.com BOO-YAH! – Carter, on June 05, 2008 15:47
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Well then, I stand corrected. Biz lied about his business practices and Twitter will be flooded with people calling each other vulgar names and ads for penis enlargement. Guess it's time to close my account now before that happens. Everyone move to Pownce. They block spammers and stalkers better than Twitter.
Sorry to be so sarcastic about this, but I still don't see the major issue here. If Biz lied and didn't follow his own companies' ToS, then shame on him. But all of this for one person? C'mon. And I don't care that she disclosed the fact that she works for Pownce AND that all of this happened BEFORE she worked at Pownce, that's now a factor hanging in the balance.
Seriously, I hope Twitter does respond better, but it sounds like no matter what Twitter/Biz does here, it will never be good enough for the users. Meanwhile, the true slippery slope that will happen will be censored comments from every person who was stalked, offended, called a "cunt", etc etc... Twitter will be reacting more to answering to complainers than they will fixing their network. It will be down more than up.... wait a minute... if they are down, people can't send threatening or vulgar tweets to others. Problem solved. Move to Pownce. – martymankins, on June 04, 2008 20:50
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People who actually *read* what this is about don't see conflict of interest because this started long before Ariel was an employee of Pownce. – Marjolein Katsma, on June 04, 2008 18:09
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Marty, the first account was apparently closed before they even could do something - we'll have to accept that statement because we can't verify it. The second account (confession) they said was closed before they could check it -- which was either just blatantly "saying something" without /actually/ looking if they could check, or simply a blatant lie, because it was up there with very obvious "libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable" content that many of us have seen long after Biz stated the account was closed and they could not check it. It was not /actually/ removed until I complained about that both here and on the Twitter blog. I'm sorry, but such a blatant lie, or simple neglect to even check whether such content is still on their server for all to see (and archive on other websites!), is not something that fits in my definition of "responding professionally". THAT behavior is the slippery slope that will make Twitter a spammers' haven and a free-for-all platform to spew objectionable (etc.) content -- unless such behavior is amended soon, and visibly, very clearly. – Marjolein Katsma, on June 04, 2008 18:06
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Marjolein, if Twitter had done absolutely nothing, then I could see your point. But since they responded professionally (just not to Ariel's satisfaction), your ending statement is simply a slippery slope. – martymankins, on June 04, 2008 15:07
Carter replied on June 03, 2008 23:35 to the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:
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They do, however qualify as "libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable" - all of those, in fact - quote from the TOS. (Yes, and I have read the part that says "We may, but have no obligation to, remove Content and accounts containing...").
The fact that the TOS is already weak on "Spam" (they apparently haven't realised there are many other types of spam than email spam - and that capitalization is hilarious) and their "sole discretion" in this case is to do nothing at all, is sending a powerful message that anything goes at Twitter. Keep it up, and Twitter will become a spammers' haven and a free-for-all platform to spew "unlawful, offensive, threatening, libelous, defamatory, obscene or otherwise objectionable" content. Keep that up for a little more and there won't be any scaling problems left. – Marjolein Katsma, on June 03, 2008 05:15
michaelcrook replied on June 02, 2008 22:01 to the problem "Twitter refuses to uphold Terms of Service" in Twitter:
I have to side with Twitter on this. Ariel is not being stalked or threatened. This is nothing more than a thin-skinned little girl who can't handle a little name-calling. Although the names are crude and rude, they do not qualify as cyberbullying or harassment.
Twitter would have been well within its right to tell her to take a flying leap, but they humored her, and that speaks well for them.
http://www.michaelcrook.net/2008/06/0...
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Point taken. I think the line between "harassment" and someone being a jerk is blurred here, which is why this is such a contentious issue. – Bonsmots, on June 01, 2008 19:44
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