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acordova marked one of Lesley's replies in Brightkite as useful. Lesley replied to the question "How do I check-in to my Placemark by SMS?".
Greg Williams replied on August 14, 2008 14:53 to the idea "Whats up with SMS integration? That is Twitter's only foothold!!!" in Pownce:
Paaskonijn replied on August 06, 2008 10:46 to the idea "A convenient search tool would be nice...imho" in Pownce:
loïc m. replied on July 17, 2008 08:17 to the idea "Show "recently active notes" would be cool" in Pownce:
Can u add an option on the "picklist" like 'follow notes'.
This option shows all notes we have replies with just the first notes and a counter to shows us the number of new replies after our.
For exemple, I replie to a note at position 4.
After few days, 3 other peoples replie too.
If a select the 'follow notes' option, I have the first notes and a counter that shows me "3 new replies".
acordova started following the idea "Two ideas for Yelp integration." in Brightkite.
peedy replied on July 16, 2008 18:18 to the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Wow, Kathryn. That's some awesome due diligence on your part! Thanks so much for testing this stuff out and reporting the results. I appreciate that Loopt is finally making an effort to address concerns; I hope they will respond to your latest update. – Groovymarlin, on July 16, 2008 17:44
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Stunning. Good detective work, K. – Merlin Mann, on July 16, 2008 16:57
kathryn replied on July 16, 2008 16:36 to the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Thanks for the quick updates to the iPhone Loopt application, as well as the invitation SMS itself (which now tells recipients how to opt out of Loopt).
Basically, what I am hearing from Loopt is that Loopt is complying with the standard "double opt-in" or "confirmation opt-in" requirement because Loopt is not sending text messages out, it is rather other users who are triggering these messages.
The double opt-in for Loopt is working in this fashion:
1. User A registers for Loopt and gets instructions to wait for an SMS from Loopt to complete registration.
2. User A receives opt-in invitation message via SMS (part one of the double opt-in).
3. User A confirms participation in Loopt, thus completing the double opt-in.
4. User A then invites user B to join Loopt via SMS.
5. User B gets the Loop opt-in invitation message via SMS (part one of the double opt-in).
6. User B can then stop all Loopt messages by replying STOP, thus opting out of Loopt. User B will then only ever receive one message from Loopt.
However user B may be unhappy because a) they're paying for each SMS b) they've never even heard of Loopt c) they may not want to join Loopt and d) they may not like/know the person who invited them to Loopt but somehow that person has their phone number.
What's to prevent a malicious user from inviting a user like user B over and over? What if 50 different people try to invite user B to Loopt at once? What if I'm on Loopt, I deny someone's friend request, can they keep inviting me over and over again (triggering lots of text messages)? What safeguards are in place so that someone doesn't abuse the SMS invitation functionality?
I just signed into Loopt.com and was presented with the Invite Friends screen. I don't currently see:
- any explanation of what typing in a friend's mobile number will do (trigger an SMS invitation)
- any message preview of the SMS invitation my friend will receive (though there's a preview of the email invitation)
- any disclaimer that standard text messaging rates will apply (and my friend will be charged)
- any disclaimer that someone who opted out of Loopt will not receive the SMS
- any limits to how many times/how often I can invite someone to Loopt
For example, I just logged into Loopt using another account, and from the home screen, invited my myself. Then I went to the Invite Friends page and invited myself again. Then I went back home and invited myself to Loop. Then I went to the Invite Friends page and invited myself again.
On my phone I soon received 4 invitation text messages to Loopt within the space of two minutes.
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Just to be clear, you can only receive invites from people who have your phone number, period. Loopt is a closed network. If you received an invitation, it was from someone who had your phone number in their address book or entered it manually. – Nick Sivo, on July 16, 2008 10:35
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
This is now fixed. http://loopt.typepad.com/loopt/2008/07/sorry-everyone.html – Nick Sivo, on July 16, 2008 10:34
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Just to be clear, you can only receive invites from people who have your phone number, period. Loopt is a closed network. If you received an invitation, it was from someone who had your phone number in their address book or entered it manually. – Nick Sivo, on July 16, 2008 10:33
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Just to be clear, you can only receive invites from people who have your phone number, period. Loopt is a closed network. If you received an invitation, it was from someone who had your phone number in their address book or entered it manually. – Nick Sivo, on July 16, 2008 10:31
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
It does not. – Nick Sivo, on July 16, 2008 10:26
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Just to be clear, you can only receive invites from people who have your phone number, period. Loopt is a closed network. If you received an invitation, it was from someone who had your phone number in their address book or entered it manually. – Nick Sivo, on July 16, 2008 10:25
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
The 'unfollow' link in emails coming from getsatisfaction.com should now be working. Sorry for screwing things up everyone. – Scott Fleckenstein, on July 16, 2008 06:30
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Conceded, 20 cents is way too much to keep getting charged. Hell, it's too much for a text message, especially considering the minuscule data that's being transmitted. – Nick, on July 16, 2008 03:33
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
Thanks, Scott! – Eric Suesz, on July 16, 2008 02:30
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
I'm working on the bug right now, will get the fix out ASAP. In the mean time, if you click on the 'follow' tab on the right side of the screen, and then 'stop following' it will work. Its just the link in the email address that is fucked up. – Scott Fleckenstein, on July 16, 2008 01:55
A comment on the question "How can I never receive another Loopt SMS invitation ever?" in Loopt:
maverick, we only intend to send you replies to this conversation, and we encourage you to stop following a conversation if you don't want to participate. I will also ask our developers to make sure there is no bug related to this, and I hope you will tell us more in the Get Satisfaction section: http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction – Eric Suesz, on July 16, 2008 01:10
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