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mutya replied on September 04, 2008 23:53 to the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
How is this different from users who post "This is an obligatory karma maintenance post" and the like? Besides that @martinbogo, et al., have found a way to automate the process, that is?
It's the same artificial boost to karma, regardless of whether it's a bot or a person behind the message. Why penalize the one if you're not going to penalize the other?
moggsoceanlane replied on September 04, 2008 22:59 to the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
A comment on the question "Can we have the calendar back?" in Plurk:
ROFL! what? me? – Nethead, on September 04, 2008 21:40
A comment on the question "Can we have the calendar back?" in Plurk:
I don't think we should give @Nethead the calendar....He really stirs up the time lines with his "Time Travel" :-P LOL – ClassTax Xue, on September 04, 2008 20:51
scribble replied on September 04, 2008 18:12 to the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
The Dude Dean replied on September 04, 2008 18:02 to the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
A comment on the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
A comment on the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
True. That bot should be unfriended, or the bot should be changed to be less noisy. The plurker runs the risk of being unfriended by humans if her plurks only get activity created by bots. She should keep that in mind. – David, on September 03, 2008 17:03
skraggy replied on September 03, 2008 14:33 to the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
Some bots do get a little out of hand... These are all of the responses I saw in a recent plurk strictly to attempt to maintain the person's Karma:
*bot* [was] just about to say the same thing!
*bot* [wonders] if this is true?
*real user* [says] there was a lot of this when the convention was here. I know they met with some vets
*bot* [thinks] you're right.
*bot* [was] just about to say the same thing!
*bot* [feels] the burn!
*bot* [wonders] if this is true?
*bot* [thinks] you're right.
*bot* [asks] if you're sure about that?
I consider that more noise than good mornings or good nights. I actually enjoy good mornings and good nights because it lets me know when they are on and off plurk for awhile.
I don't favor bots for karma maintenance, however, I can't say I consider it enough of a problem that Plurk should do something about. I believe in the end the user community will influence the use or non-use of bots by friending or unfriending those who use bot services, as Amir stated.
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A comment on the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
I am a man More sinn'd against than sinning. – William Shakespeare, on September 03, 2008 02:05
A comment on the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
My lord, there needs no such apology – William Shakespeare, on September 03, 2008 02:03
A comment on the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
@The Dude Dean That has been a constant source of entertainment! – d3bruts1d, on September 02, 2008 08:29
A comment on the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
In the mean time, we can come up with more jokes about our missing privates. – The Dude Dean, on September 02, 2008 04:13
A comment on the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
Greg, read the replies yourself. Nobody else is calling for @martinbogo's karma to be stripped. Either we like to read his plurks, or we don't. (I don't.)
My peeve is People who care about karma enough to plurk things like, "good morning!" "karma maintenance :)" and "good night!" Those are the plurks that aren't interesting and are pure noise. I don't care if a bot plurks them or a human. That kind of plurk is noise to me either way.
It's not the bot. It's the content of the message that matters.
So, what do I do about all those plurkers who who write karma maintaining plurks like, "good morning plurktopia!" There's THOUSANDS of them! I don't friend them. They're out of my life, and I'm happy for it. I could care less what their karma is. – David, on September 01, 2008 23:29
A comment on the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
Amir: it comes as no surprise to me that you would try to manufacture an excuse to ignore this issue... and people can go back through the previous posts and decide for themselves the very small percentage of posts that you reply to. – Greg Fowler, on September 01, 2008 18:40
A comment on the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
I am answering posts and I have done this for a long time, but with a response like that don't expect me to ever answer one of your posts again. – Amir Salihefendic, on September 01, 2008 18:11
natsukisensei replied on September 01, 2008 17:55 to the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
I personally love @williamshakespeare, and I don't think it's ALWAYS necessarily cheating -- at least in Shakespeare's case, he only bots, so it's more of a botting account. In my opinion WHO CARES if some people bot? Like Amir said, it doesn't hurt anyone or the system, and if everyone unfriends them they would lose the whole point of Plurk: to make friends. Karma is not why people Plurk. If some people bot for play, such as Shakespeare, that's great. The only people that should be looked down upon would be the users that bot nonsense for Karma to the point of spam, but once again, Karma is not why people Plurk. If someone wants to enjoy Plurk, they gotta do more than automatically post. I feel that the problem with resolve itself.
scribble replied on September 01, 2008 17:17 to the problem "My private plurks tab disappeared." in Plurk:
Greg Fowler replied on September 01, 2008 14:43 to the problem "Karma Bots" in Plurk:
Amir: nice of somebody to finally start answering some posts here, but how arrogant are you to mark this issue as solved before waiting for further feedback from your users? your answer DOES NOT solve the problem. allowing users to gain karma by cheating while honest users lose karma because of your stupid algorithm IS the problem. unfriend/unfollow the offender DOES NOT make the problem go away, a point that's already been made over and over again.
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