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Maybe the problem is using Safari 3.2, instead of Safari 4? What happens when you use Safari 4?

Of course, it would be nice if it rendered correctly in both... – Alderete, on December 03, 2009 03:14

I didn't say there wasn't work in creating the Ports-style systems, just that the end user is better served by installing an Open Source project themselves, directly from the project, rather than depending on the third-party generated and maintained port to be (a) current and (b) compatible. As you yourself discovered with the MacPorts-based FUSE installation that generated your original problem and posting.

If all the people who contribute to the Ports were instead to contribute any compatibility issues and fixes _directly to the Open Source projects,_ then the projects would be improved directly, and in the right place: the projects themselves. If there's a reason why configure; make; sudo make install doesn't work on Mac OS X, then that should be fixed _in the Open Source project itself,_ not patched with a band-aid via MacPorts or Fink.

IMHO. YMMV. – Alderete, on December 10, 2008 06:52

This is a great example of why the various Ports-style system of installing Open Source software are a bad idea. It's _always_ better to be using the standard distribution of an Open Source project, rather than getting it second-hand via MacPorts or Fink. – Alderete, on December 10, 2008 06:09

Would be nice to know _why_ you think the two of them together are awesome, and it would be good to get a URL to the Textmate-projects resource.

I would really like to get to the bottom of this, as I use ExpanDrive in a server environment where I need to be able to share with other developers. Having permissions problems is kind of a big deal.

It seems like there's a variety of sources for the problems: server-side umask, Finder behavior, ExpanDrive behavior, etc. I think it's important to get to the bottom of the interactions, and really understand why things happen the way they do.

Frankly, I don't even need ExpanDrive to completely solve the problem, if I simply could understand the behavior across multiple servers, etc., where it seems like things are different. If I knew how to work around the issues (without having to resort to a second tool), that would be good enough.

Finally, having the Permissions panel in the Finder's Get Info dialog work as one would expect is _critical_.