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  • BostonGraf started following the question "Result of the vote" in Hubdub.

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    BostonGraf replied on April 07, 2008 19:25 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    What you are also ignoring is that not all people voting WANT it to be public. I have refrained from posting my opinion on the Satyaki matter for that reason. A private vote protects me from those that would blast me for my opinion, whether it you be satyaki or you.

    There's a reason elections are done by secret ballot.

    My vote is cast.
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    BostonGraf replied on April 07, 2008 19:13 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    Destry, if you don't participate in the vote, and everyone that feels the way you do doesn't participate in the vote, then what you want to happen will not receive any votes.

    At some point, you have to accept that you are not the owner of this problem, and it is not your call with regards to how to resolve it.

    I believe that you should be thankful that your voice has been heard to the extent that it has. Rules have been put in place because of this incident. More people are aware of the situation now because of it.

    But at some point, just accept that this is not your site, and you do not have the final say.
  • BostonGraf started following the problem "Suspend v Settlement Times" in Hubdub.

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    BostonGraf replied on April 07, 2008 16:34 to the problem "Suspend v Settlement Times" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    I believe it should be up to the question creator. As most of the questions that I've created are in the sports category, I will use those to explain my reasoning:

    http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/MLB_Ho...

    "How many pitchers will win 20 games in the season?" I set this to suspend three weeks prior to the end of the season for a particular reason. To get it right, you actually need to predict the answer, and not just check the stats on the day/hour before close. If I were to extend the suspend date until the last game of the season, it becomes too easy. Being created months in advance of the outcome, it is an example of a long term question that (IMO) promotes leaving your money for the long haul.

    http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_t...

    "Will the Bruins advance beyond the first round in the NHL playoffs?" I set this to suspend after (I hope) two games of the series have been played. This allows for more activity and percentage shifts while the event is occurring. Being created two weeks before suspend date, it is an example of a short term question that allows for leaving your money in for a short period, and watching the market move more frequently.

    In creating these two questions, I had two different intents. As the creator of the questions, I believe that is my decision to make. I would argue that this diversity in types of questions can only benefit the site and its users. Placing restrictions on the suspend date will change this dynamic, and make some questions less “interesting”.

    One of the stated philosophies of this site is that people enjoy predicting things to say that they were correct, not to make money. Some questions would hold no “I was right” value if making the correct prediction becomes too easy due to restrictions being placed on suspend dates.
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    BostonGraf replied on April 07, 2008 15:26 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    I guess this is a quick reminder to all posters on this thread.

    Please use this area to comment on the proposed rules. It has been kept in check, but there is a foreseeable slide into this being yet another thread that is spent debating the Satyaki issue.

    There are a couple other threads where that can be debated, and I must admit that I am more interested in this thread due to its implications on future rules. I'm just asking that the outcome of the Satyaki situation be discussed in one of those other threads.

    Thank you.
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    BostonGraf replied on April 07, 2008 14:34 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    Ah, forgot to weigh in on public/private predictions. I think it is an interesting question, and does not have quite a simple solution. If you happen to know that a particular account is very good at a particular topic, you can always piggy back on their votes. I feel this is valid reason for wanting to hide your predictions.

    Making all users involved in a question known is one thing that I agree with. Making the exact predictions known, I do NOT agree with.
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    BostonGraf replied on April 07, 2008 14:29 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    I like the three strikes and you're gone policy. Two strikes is too harsh. Four just allows a little too much heat to build up among the user base.

    I guess the only addition that I would ask for is on the first instance, I believe you should receive an email warning AND have any profits from the identified gaming removed from your account.

    I wish I had paid more attention to the GetSatisfaction site this weekend...I missed a lot of solid debating!
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    BostonGraf replied on April 01, 2008 20:47 to the discussion "Suggestions/Thoughts on creating well formed MLB game specific questions." in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    A void is the simplest solution.

    I like it.

    I'm sure there will end up being one or two predictions that get voided, and I won't like it! But it is the easiest solution for the greater good...
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    BostonGraf started a conversation in Hubdub on April 01, 2008 14:26:

    BostonGraf
    Suggestions/Thoughts on creating well formed MLB game specific questions.
    The Yankees game is the first rain out of the year, and it instantly brings the focus of HubDub users to the idea that baseball games can get delayed/postponed, and how do we resolve this issue. The situation it created was that a question was phrased "Will the NYY's lose to Toronto on the Opening Day Game on March 31st?" Now, of course, since the game wasn't played, they didn't lose, but there is intent to the question that can't be denied. It has already been stated by an admin that the question in question (ha!) will be decided by the April 1 game, but this does bring about the idea of setting a standard and/or proper phrasing of MLB game specific questions.
    First, a little info on MLB delayed/postponed games:
    A game can be postponed by one day or a couple days or months.
    If a game is postponed until near the end of the season, but ends up not having any impact on either team’s playoff chances, a postponed game can end up not being played at all.
    When a game is postponed, the tickets are NOT reissued. You need a ticket for the original game date to get into the later date game.
    A postponed game is frequently NOT the very next game to be played, even if the same two teams are playing.
    A postponed game RARELY involves the same two starting pitchers as was originally planned.

    This being said, how should HubDub handle postponed games? If an April game ends up getting postponed until August, I don’t imagine that people will want their money tied up. However, I don’t believe that any outcome should be decided based on the game being postponed (unless that is the question, of course). So, should postponed games cause questions to get voided? Is it up to admins to determine if the game will be played soon enough for it to be played out?

    I do think that the question creator has a large responsibility to be specific in the phrasing of the question, and in the settlement details.
    First, I recommend that people NOT create questions of the Yes/No variety. Create a question that has two outcomes, and provide two team names. That will require a team to actually WIN for a payout to occur.
    Second, be specific in the Settlement Details how you would like a postponement to be resolved. You can request it get voided if postponed, or can be even more specific and request it gets voided if postponed by more than one day or two days. If the game is postponed, but the same two teams are playing the next day, the question can be applied to that game. The key is to actually specify what you (the creator) think should happen, and not let it get flushed out in the comments section.

    Now, these are just my thoughts. I would love to hear what the rest of the community has to say about this issue.
  • problem

    BostonGraf replied on March 10, 2008 20:13 to the problem "Is there a time zone issue?" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    Thanks for taking over the QA on this issue, Infernal. Damn work keeping me from making H$ today...

    Thank you for going through the manual repairs, Chris. Prob not what you had in mind today.

    Back to the grind, myself.
    -graf
  • problem

    BostonGraf replied on March 10, 2008 18:25 to the problem "Is there a time zone issue?" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    Thank you for the fix, but the questions still appear to be suspended due to suspend time reached. It is safe to assume that these will have to be manually reset, which is no doubt a pain in the butt. Will there be time to do this? Or are the suspended questions staying that way?

    Thank you!
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    BostonGraf replied on March 10, 2008 18:14 to the problem "Is there a time zone issue?" in Hubdub:

    BostonGraf
    Sorry, I should have been more specific, this is occuring in the Business - Indices area. Here is an example of one question:

    http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Where_...
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    BostonGraf reported a problem in Hubdub on March 10, 2008 17:30:

    BostonGraf
    Is there a time zone issue?
    It appears as though a number of questions are closing at 1:00pm EST, when the settlement date is described as 1:00pm PST.

    I'm guessing this is temporary, although my Boston-based self would not mind if everything shifted to EST....just to be greedy.

    -graf
  • BostonGraf started following the idea "common links page" in Hubdub.

  • BostonGraf started following the idea "common links page" in Hubdub.

  • BostonGraf started following the idea "common links page" in Hubdub.

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    BostonGraf asked a question in Hubdub on March 06, 2008 15:48:

    BostonGraf
    Finding Other Hubdubers With NetWorth Close to Mine
    I would like to use the leaderboard a bit more, as I enjoy seeing my exact position in the overall standings, but I would really like to see where the people immediately around my position are located.

    I'm in the $22,000 range, so positioned in the mid-50's overall. This means that I can climb successfully, but viewing the Leaderboard lacks the excitement of chasing the next guy. I was able to to find one other user that is in my Net Worth range, but I basically had to view 10-15 individual users info to find them, and add them to my friends list.

    It would be great if the All Users leaderboard would display the people right around my own position. Another possible solution would be to allow for searching based on Net Worth or Quarterly Gains.
  • BostonGraf started following the idea "The Royal Bank Of HubDub" in Hubdub.