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A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
In all honesty, the cards do not impact me one way or the other. If they fall out and I don't want them I pick them up and recycle them just like every other thing I don't want. However, given we all must accept reality of growing business and JPG is exploring different ways to get their name out there. I have a suggestion...as I was doing some "field intelligence" in my mundane 9-5er one of the advertising avenues that struck me as interesting and low cost was advertising on the side of "public transportation". My thought is why not look at hooking up with a Tarta..target large metro areas...open up a photo challenge that displays the positives of public transportation ... gear it towards an opportunity for them as well as an opportunity for JPG (you will provide them with amazing photography/they provide you with a short term free advertising opportunity..and in the meantime JPG subscribers have a chance to get their work displayed. Maybe I am offbase in my thought process but if you are trying to reach a lot of people a moving target seems like a great option. – likst, on August 01, 2008 16:20
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
All good points. truth is, there are pros and cons to everything in life. Nonetheless, JPG is awesome!!! – Jason Hudson, on August 01, 2008 00:41
Laura Brunow Miner replied on August 01, 2008 00:05 to the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
sgoralnick replied on July 30, 2008 04:15 to the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
ouch. those cards that blow were the very first thing i noticed upon opening my issue today, and i was totally bummed. as a designer, my stomach sinks just a little bit every time a sassy young company i like starts to resort to humdrum tried-and-true-but-utterly-irritating marketing tactics as it grows.
as a reader, contributor and subscriber to JPG, i was dismayed and disappointed to learn that i had become a victim of a "takesy-backsy" on the once proud and defiant rally cry of "We Don't Blow!". i know it seems inconsequential, but it makes me wonder what else about JPG that set it apart will soon be repealed.
i completely understand the need to increase circulation and decrease production costs, but there are always multiple solutions to any problem. the fact that nothing as easy and cost-effective as the cards exists only means that it has not yet been envisioned. i think this has great potential to be yet another area where JPG sets itself apart from the crowd. i am convinced the great designers and creative minds at 8020 could find a way to invent and create something innovative.
the postcard suggestion mentioned above is a good place to start. this might screw with postal regulations, but maybe you could have an ongoing theme for contributers to find a creative way to shoot the "business reply mail, blahblah" side, and then use one shot per month to use as the postcard, and the back is an interestingly designed fill-out form. or if you can't mess with that side, maybe there can be a "textures" theme, where you'd be getting photos that have a greater tolerance for type being laid on top of them for a fill-in form? maybe you could design a page that LOOKED like one of those cards, so when the people who actually want them (?!) grab for them, they can be led to the website, or perhaps a way they could text in their info right then and there?
but the worst part about them is that they force you to flip to a certain page. if i were held at knifepoint to pick a lesser evil, i'd say to use the blow-ins rather than the bind-ins, they make me want to tear the magazine apart just so i can flip the pages easily. maybe the bottom corner of the back cover could be perforated so the card can be torn out of it? since the magazine is always shrink-wrapped, maybe you can just put them outside the magazine instead of inside? or put them all on page 1 so i can toss them all without have to flip around and spend time extracting?
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
Thanks for the suggestion. We have to have the postal reply info on one side (the post office can be a stickler!), but we have used member photos on most of the cards. – Laura S., on July 29, 2008 20:00
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
One blow-in for subs, two for newsstand. Then during the holiday season we add in one gift blow-in to each. And, Jason, I had the same experience with my family! – Laura S., on July 29, 2008 19:56
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
Sadly, not everyone orders magazines in the same way. Some like ordering on the web, some like inserts, some just buy on the newsstand, etc. As Laura mentioned we are looking into a digital version that would offer an alternative to those who don't want a paper copy. We're still researching this. It's good to know that there's interest out there for this sort of thing. – Laura S., on July 29, 2008 19:53
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
Right now we have only one blow-in slated for subscriber copies and two for newsstand. We'll up this to two blow-ins for subscribers and three for newsstand during the holiday season (we'll be adding in one gift blow-in for each). Then, after the holidays are over, we'll revert back to the original number. – Laura S., on July 29, 2008 19:51
tomeloph replied on July 29, 2008 19:51 to the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
ok, i can understand that the blow-in cards are what they are... annoying / yet they work.... since they are essentially postcards, how about you put a readers' photo on one side? tom@eloph.com
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
I know it seems like the cards are not "green" but actually, the more subscribers we can get via the cards the less we have to mail out to attract new subscribers (which involves a lot more paper). – Laura S., on July 29, 2008 19:48
Leandro replied on July 29, 2008 19:19 to the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
I just got the latest issue today and there was only one blow in card...personally, I can live with that. I had visions of a cascade of cards like some of the other photography magazines I receive whose names I shall not mention. – m winters, on July 28, 2008 18:03
A comment on the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
I'm pretty sure it's just one, but Laura Simkins is back today and I will find out. – Laura Brunow Miner, on July 28, 2008 17:46
Jason Schupp replied on July 28, 2008 17:43 to the discussion "Join us for a subscription discussion." in 8020 Publishing:
So I'm going to chime in from the other side as an employee: I actually hate blow-in cards, too. Actually, I hate them way more when there's six or, I swear, sometimes twelve of them, so I'm really glad to hear that we're only putting one or two in. :)
But as much as I don't like them, I have to admit some people want them. Back in May I went back to Chicago for a visit, and I saw my mom and stepdad, and my cousin who lives there now and her boyfriend, and her mom was in town too. They all love JPG and they're excited about Everywhere, and then every single one of them wanted to know where the blow-in cards were. They all grab them from magazines in the newsstands when they find a title they really like, and they were dismayed that JPG instead had some full-page insert that they didn't want to disturb. That was an eye-opener for me, because I just assumed everyone hated those cards.
Laura, did you find out how many cards were in subscriber issues?
Lesley replied on July 08, 2008 16:30 to the idea "Emailed reports of failure could be more detailed" in Brightkite:
Jason Schupp shared an idea in Brightkite on July 07, 2008 17:38:
Emailed reports of failure could be more detailedThis morning I tried to email a photo to Brightkite, and I ended up getting an email back saying "Sorry, but we could not post your photo." Okay, no prob, something probably bonked, it happens. I try it again: "Sorry, but we could not post your photo."
I didn't figure it out until I got in front of a computer and tried posting the photo through the website. Turns out my wordy caption was 70 or so characters over the limit. :D Okay then! But when I was out and about, the email I got could've said something like, "Sorry, but we could not post your photo, because you do go on. There's a character limit on the caption of (x) characters. If you can edit your caption down, try it again."
Would it be possible to send more descriptive error emails?
Pixelherder replied on March 28, 2008 09:19 to the discussion "Why did my photo get deleted?" in 8020 Publishing:
I'm somewhat concerned about the conversation at this point, especially as being singled out as an individual who has had an 'image deleted' due to over-photoshopping?
Erm, not to deflate your sense of what's possible with a camera but while the image in question did receive nominal exaggeration in photoshop, it certainly did not receive the level to which you imply, nor did it get 'deleted'? I would really like to know more about what you mean by "It took JPG forever to remove Karl Randay's The Last Lighthouse", as I personally received no notification that there was any dispute as to its authenticity and if it was not considered for publication due to concern about it would like to know why it would get removed from this list without any consultation or ability to argue against those who believe it to not fit the standard?
I left JPG a while ago, not because of a lack of published work, but mostly due to not feeling very original or that varied. It was great when it started, but really feels like it has lost the pizazz that was around when members like Myla Kent and Sara Heinrichs left.
Nicole Gesmondi replied on March 19, 2008 19:55 to the discussion "The JPG Photo Deletion Email" in 8020 Publishing:
gigi tindle replied on March 19, 2008 04:48 to the discussion "the woes of participating on an "it's not all about me site."" in 8020 Publishing:
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