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Carolyn replied on May 01, 2009 13:43 to the question "Presentation notes don't appear" in SlideShare:
I'm having this problem too: http://www.slideshare.net/cmkraut/eng...
A comment on the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
Thank you for the update. I realize this is a difficult problem to solve and would like to say that I appreciate the effort PBWiki is putting into finding the right solution. – Carolyn, on May 09, 2008 11:59
Carolyn replied on March 27, 2008 20:29 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
Right, but when a person is switching from a public wiki to a protected wiki, they would need an account, anyway. So they would be able to merge their public wiki onto their account and only have one log in after that initial set up.
Forgive me if I'm wrong... I don't think the people who are switching from wiki to wiki are the people to be worried about. It's really easy to figure out how to merge separate wikis into one account.
The ones to worry about are people who have never used a wiki. Odds are these people will not have another wiki right away, so there will be nothing to switch to. I realize this is kind of a bold generalization, but it's true in my situation.
Carolyn replied on March 27, 2008 19:37 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
OK- the confusion aspect makes sense. Could that confusion be cleared up with a short 5 second video on the different log in screens, showing users how to log in? People click to watch videos before they even know what they are doing and it wouldn't take up too much space. I guess I'm just used to finding work arounds in my training course because most of my students have never seen a wiki before.
I'm not sure what you mean about "switching between the two models." Other than the fact that once a wiki is private it cannot be switched to a public wiki. However, the reverse is possible in the settings (making a public wiki private). Am I on the right track with this problem or way off base?
Carolyn replied on March 25, 2008 20:29 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
Carolyn marked one of Eric Suesz's replies in PBwiki as useful. Eric Suesz replied to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!".
Carolyn replied on March 25, 2008 20:25 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
This is getting complicated, but i think we're on to something. Can we take care of this hassle at start-up? That's really the only question I'd like answered. I think the problem starts there, and there are 2 levels to it.
1. When I sign up for a wiki, one of the first options/questions should be if I want to make my site available to anyone with the invite key or just PBwiki account users.
2. If a teacher wants the security of only using PBwiki accounts, but doesn't have email accounts for students, there should be an option in their admin area to assign user names (which you just suggested) if they choose to take on that responsibility.
Carolyn replied on March 25, 2008 19:50 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
That might be a hassle for a teacher - what if new students need to be "enrolled" into the wiki? The instructor would have to contact PBwiki each time that occurs. I think the admin privileges, in this case, would have to remain the instructor's responsibility. Especially in my circumstance where I roll over my wiki each 3 week session. Having the option to just give out a password is exponentially easier.
Give us the option! Please?
Carolyn replied on March 25, 2008 19:21 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
The problem with the teacher assigning user names to each student in the class is the time involved in doing so.
Why can't we go back to making this an option at set up? When an educator signs up for an educator wiki, could they be given the option of simply using an invite key or making users get an account?-
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Carolyn replied on March 25, 2008 18:25 to the discussion "Educators - weigh in on login systems!" in PBwiki:
The new PBWiki has made so many improvements, but I do agree that the email-based log in will not work for educators. Personally, I feel the issue is less about users with no email accounts and more about simplicity of logging in.
I teach an online faculty training course and one issue that comes up all the time is the need to create accounts for various tools we introduce. Many instructors have gotten annoyed when they need to create an account just to utilize a tool and they don't want to pass that burden on to the students. We may not see creating another account as a big deal, but less tech-savvy people do.
Some of my 'students' are new to the online environment and require a very simple log- in process. The invitation key was great for my course because there was no need to sign up for anything. I just linked out to the wiki (from my LMS) with instructions on how to enter the invite key. I will say that the double log in areas caused some confusion. A quick Jing video showing my users how to log in solved that problem.
Teachers want to make their tools as user-friendly as possible, for both them and the students. One problem I would run into with an email-login system is the initial set-up on the student's part. Creating an account is great if you have multiple wikis to manage, but it's not great for those who are just getting their feet wet.
Carolyn marked one of Vu Nguyen's replies in PBwiki as useful. Vu Nguyen replied to the question "PBwiki 2.0 password?".
Carolyn marked one of Vu Nguyen's replies in PBwiki as useful. Vu Nguyen replied to the question "PBwiki 2.0 password?".
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Carolyn asked a question in PBwiki on March 18, 2008 12:47:
Why isn't my new wiki using PBWiki 2.0?I just got an email asking if I wanted to sign up to test the new PBWiki 2.0 but my "new" wiki is still just like 1.0. When will I see the new PBWiki?
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