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csaba replied on January 25, 2009 18:03 to the idea "WASAPI output" in Songbird:

Schlunzen,

There has been a lot of talk about implementing mixers and DSP. However I hope the developers understand that Implementing WASAPI support would be a simple and adequate alternative, as most user's serious about music have a high-spec soundcard which at hardware level can act as as equalizer and (up)mixer to 5.1.

I own a Creative Titanium Fatal1ty Professional Series which does all this out-of-the box without putting any burden on the CPU.

Anyway, let's keep our fingers crossed. To be honest, so far what I have seen in SB is very promising, but it's still not a viable alternative to iTunes. However also Firefox took some time to overtake Internet Explorer.

So far, I see following:

iTunes
+ easy and most options out-of-the box
+ integration into iTunes store
+ rip and burn CDs
+ great search function
+ recognizes all file-formats
+ artwork included
- one-size-fits-all-approach, no skins, limited adaptability
- huge footprint and need to install other useless Apple software (QuickTime)
- no equalizer, no DSP, no WASAPI
- does not benefit from advanced soundcards

foobar2000
+ highly customizable
+ best DSP / WASAPI support around
+ tiny footprint and fast
- small development team
- no CD rip/burn
- limited ability to read various audio file formats

Songbird
+ open development, mozilla style and very reactive team
+ very customizable, with skins and plug-ins
+ medium footprint
- no artwork (at least will not import from iTunes8)
- still limited playback of audio file formats
- lack of CD rip / burn
- no equalizer / visualizer

For now I will continue to mainly use iTunes until March/April when the next major release of SongBird will come out.

csaba replied on January 24, 2009 12:30 to the praise "Songbird plays .m4p media again!!" in Songbird:

I am on SB1.0 but it still won't play .m4p - do I need a plugin?

csaba replied on January 24, 2009 12:29 to the problem "Songbird glitchy with .m4p songs" in Songbird:

All,

I have this problem too - it is VERY reproducable, i.e. with any .m4p file bought from iTunes store it gives a stream is encrypted and decryption is not supported error. The computer is already authorised in iTunes and iTunes is installed (and it plays back in iTunes)

what to do?

thanks

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csaba replied on January 24, 2009 11:38 to the question "Improved playback experience" in Songbird:

This is great - really looking forward to this feature. once implemented you will probably capture all users from foobar as CB is really great.

csaba started following the idea "songbirn DSP support" in Songbird.

csaba started following the idea "VISUALIZATIONS!" in Songbird.

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A comment on the idea "WASAPI output" in Songbird:

Hi FLAChirp are you sure iTunes is bit perfect - there is a lot of confusion around this on audiophile webforums (http://www.computeraudiophile.com/nod...). If you are right I will just stick w/ iTunes until DSP and bit perfect are implemented in SB. thanks a lot – csaba, on January 23, 2009 21:51

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csaba replied on January 23, 2009 21:44 to the idea "Built-in resampling and channel mapping... will Songbird have it?" in Songbird:

fully agreed, one of the great features of foobar2000 is the DSP support - considering SB is also built in a modular fashion I would expect this to be implemented soon (no point in having a lot of flashy features if a music player does not distinguish itself on playback quality)

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csaba replied on January 23, 2009 21:41 to the problem "5.1 Sound Not Working. Rear speakers quiet." in Songbird:

Hi,

I am new to songbird and do not know your config in linux w/ amorak. however I am also on a SoundBlaster XFi platform on Vista 64 with Logitech 5.1 speakers and can confirm that SongBird (is this a coincidence that both are abbreviated SB?) does not support surround - in terms of playback enhancement there is nothing yet (unfortunately putting it at par with iTunes).

I have just posted a request to add DSPs (foobar-style) to SB to implement 5.1 support. In the meanwhile you can use SoundBlaster Volume Panel and enable CMSS 3D (not as good as foobar2000 w/ Free Surround DSP - but better than nothing).

hope this helps, if so please support my implementation request

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