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    epicur replied on May 26, 2008 02:00 to the discussion "Business Indices Questions - Restrictions have become Necessary" in Hubdub:

    epicur
    Time for someone to discover the next cash cow. This one has been milked dry. Glad I got a couple of gallons near the end.
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    epicur replied on May 22, 2008 15:14 to the discussion "Unfairly voided question." in Hubdub:

    epicur
    Hello infernal machine. I apologize that I targeted your well written question (along with other peoples' well written questions) in order to make a larger point. It was an issue of fairness since the alleged rule hubdub cited to penalize me (to the tune of about 12000 in hubdub profits) was not being enforced evenly with everyone. In addition, I wanted maximum recognition of the unfairness of the situation. In order to achieve this, I needed the attention of as much of the hubdub community as I could acquire. You were the unfortunate collateral damage of the situation and I am sorry. I obviously didn't lose as much time in the creation of the question as you did, but I did lose hours following the market. Again, sorry for my partial responsibility in your void. The bulk of the responsibility lies with hubdub administrators. They shouldn't suddenly change interpretation and enforcement of policy without warning. They gave Orin the courtesy of an email notice. I received no such notice. Precedent had been established by what they had and were still allowing. They need to give notice before making changes. Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate what they have created with this website. But the message I keep trying to send them, seems to repeatedly be getting lost. The last time they did something like this was when they suddenly sprung resetting our hubdub dollars. They need to communicate before they do things like that and this. Ask for feedback of all involved. No sudden unilateral changes unless they want to ostracize users.

    Jumbo, glad you like the photo. I sent hubdub a good number more photos in response to their advertising request a few weeks ago. You would like those also. The one you referenced here is part of a much larger, more interesting photo in which I'm holding a Japanese World War II military officers sword. Having said this, I don't really care whether you take me seriously or not though. I let other things speak for me. Your comments were a mildly entertaining distraction though from the point of the post in the forum.

    Hi Orlin. I hope you understand, I meant no disrespect. You can't expect people to know whether you screen moniker is your name or not. If my memory serves me right, the quotation marks are an English composition rule. I put them around words in a sentence that are not meant to be read in the context of the surrounding words. That is all. I'm sorry for the offense, it was not intended. You mention missing the cited rule, but it is not really a rule as they are now using it. As the rule is written, it appears to be more about not writing questions about individual stocks then listing the only acceptable indices. The list of major indices is arbitrary. It leaves out the S&P 500, CAC 40 and MIBTEL. The "rule" appears to be just citing examples of major indices. It does indicate you should only write about those indices. They need to change the "rule" if that is what they really desire. And that is the problem I had with the selective enforcement and interpretation. With regard to the rest of your comments, you are preaching to the choir. I totally agree. The difference I may have with you is that I don't like gaining hubdub dollars with indices questions. I felt I had to predict on them just to keep up. I prefer the questions about news stories. The indices game was more like day trading.
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    epicur replied on May 21, 2008 09:40 to the discussion "Unfairly voided question." in Hubdub:

    epicur
    I agree that they are easy to gain money on. I really don't like these sort of questions. I only started wagering on them in an attempt to keep up with "orlin" since that is where much of their profits came from. Most of my profits are not only from the business category.

    But as the rule is written, it does not exclude what I wrote a question on. I have no problem with you desired goal now that I'm aware of it, but you should amend/rewrite the rule (at least until your user base grows - as you mentioned). It does not state what you have applied it as. You should explicitly list what indices are allowed.
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    epicur started a conversation in Hubdub on May 21, 2008 09:13:

    epicur
    Unfairly voided question.
    The following question was unfairly voided : http://www.hubdub.com/m7685/Will_the_... .

    The following was the reason given : "Voided Today 12:29am PST by andrew: Not one of the indices we follow "

    But this index has been followed and settled on hubdub before :

    http://www.hubdub.com/e/Market/Will_t...

    I asked where my question was prohibited and I received the following message :

    "Hi epicur,
    Section 2.3.4, rule 3
    http://www.hubdub.com/public/goodques...

    Regards,
    Andrew "

    Well the above cited rule is :

    "Questions can be made about the major indexes (Dow Jones Industrial Average, NASDAQ Composite Index, FTSE 100, DAX, BSE, Nikkei and Hang Seng) but should not be made about the performance of individual stocks"

    My response to this rule being applied to my question was :

    "First off, that rule says what questions can be made about. It does not
    explicitly exclude this major index. In addition, there are many other
    indices that aren't on that list that are being regularly allowed i.e. CAC
    40, MIBTEL and S&P 500. What are you going to do about those questions?"

    Hubdubbers, please tell me what you think of this situation. Why is my question excluded by this rule while all these others are allowed to stand? Is this a way to try to penalize success so all may compete more readily?
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    epicur replied on April 10, 2008 15:49 to the discussion "(Almost) duplicate markets" in Hubdub:

    epicur
    The cited example questions in the beginning of this discussion had very different results (click on them to see what happened). One resolved as closing down. The other ended in a narrowly ranged middle. Similar wagers would have produced disparate results. A savvy market watcher would have stayed away from the narrow one today due to a lack of predicted volatility. Instead they would have done a simple up or down. On other days when strong open is expected, the other question would be more suitable. The difference in the results of these questions today should be a partial demonstration that they are materially different.

    Let us not remove choices from the people who perceive a difference. This is different from a simple date shift.
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    epicur replied on April 10, 2008 14:25 to the discussion "(Almost) duplicate markets" in Hubdub:

    epicur
    I like the difference between the two. Some mornings one is more suited to the market outlook than the other (based upon the potential swing of the opening). I get the feeling that if someone doesn't like a particular question, they don't want anyone else who appreciates and understands these questions better from profiting from them. Allow both of these different questions to exist. Quit nitpicking and do more of what this site is about, predicting the news. If you don't like those questions, vote with your dollars on another question. This site has way too much discussion about the rules and not enough about the news.
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