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cewood replied on August 12, 2008 22:03 to the idea "It'd be great to add a trip from someone else's itinerary." in Dopplr:
Great idea, but its current implementation is quite poor sadly.
Namely that it does not recognise multi-part trips, so I have to copy each individual stop, and then when it copies it does not maintain them as a multi-part trip, and there is no way that I have found to merge them into an existing trip either, so im stuck with 10 separate trips now, with no indications of where I will be travelling from etc.
What is really required for multi-part trips is the ability to define an empty trip, like a place holder, and then move actual trips into that place holder.
And in place of the copy feature what needs to happen is something along the lines of being able to specify trip participants, so rather than it making a copy of a the trip that isn't needed you can simply specify that you are going on that trip, and have it appear in your trip list.
In the case that someone does genuinely want to copy a trip from another user, then it should definitely preserve the multi-part elements if any of a trip.
Does this make sense to everyone, feedback is welcome of course.
When can I expect to see this rolled out :)
skirocky replied on August 07, 2008 14:07 to the problem "Dopplr needs a geography lesson!" in Dopplr:
Also, I had the same problem when a friend of mine got married in Jamaica. It would have been nice to have used the name of the resort, not the resort town in Jamaica.
What about if we manually type in entries that aren't in the database? If you want to track the metadata for Dopplr's statistical purposes (e.g., "state of travel 2008"), then you could add a Google Earth function right on Dopplr allowing me to put a thumbtack on the map where the resort should be placed if it were to exist in your DB.
~Chris
skirocky replied on August 07, 2008 14:03 to the problem "Dopplr needs a geography lesson!" in Dopplr:
@Matt Bidulph: I have a rock climbing / mountaineering trip to Bugaboo Provincial Park (British Columbia) planned for late August. Even with the Geonames additions, the park -- an official park maintained by the BC govt -- isn't showing up on Dopplr.
http://www.env.gov.bc.ca/bcparks/expl...
I had trouble figuring out how to add it into the Geonames database (assuming that I can). Either way, it's annoying if I have to go in and add another destination in Geonames every time I want to add a trip (mountain ranges, for instance). When people read "Radium Hot Springs, BC" they don't get it; when they read "Bugaboo Range" or "Bugaboo Provincial Park" they would probably get it.
I realize that this is not an easy problem for Dopplr to address, but wanted to let you know that it's very important to me. (although maybe not so much to ppl who aren't amateur mountaineers/adventurers)
Chris
Matt Biddulph replied on August 07, 2008 10:10 to the problem "Dopplr needs a geography lesson!" in Dopplr:
For everyone who visited this topic over the last few months, I just wanted to note that as of June 12th 2008 we've been importing the full geonames.org dataset into our database, and taking their nightly feed of updates. There's more detail in our blog post at:
http://blog.dopplr.com/2008/06/12/24-...
If there are places you want listed in Dopplr that still aren't available, please let us know.
Thanks for sticking with us while we reached this milestone.
kira replied on May 22, 2008 18:32 to the problem "Dopplr needs a geography lesson!" in Dopplr:
A comment on the problem "Dopplr needs a geography lesson!" in Dopplr:
I don't know why Mattb says "this solves the problem"... – Luhmann, on May 17, 2008 00:51
Luhmann replied on May 13, 2008 01:57 to the problem "Dopplr needs a geography lesson!" in Dopplr:
Ethan Jewett marked one of Celia's replies in Dopplr as useful. Celia replied to the problem "Magical disappearing trips (from iCals)".
Celia replied on April 25, 2008 21:27 to the problem "Magical disappearing trips (from iCals)" in Dopplr:
Ethan Jewett reported a problem in Dopplr on April 22, 2008 17:27:
Magical disappearing trips (from iCals)Hi,
I may be missing something, but I had an imported iCal trip last weekend that I can no longer find. My journal says, regarding this trip, "We imported a trip (since deleted) from an external calendar."
This seems like a problem, especially given your super awesome carbon calculator working on the basis of old trips. (I noticed this while trying out the calculator.)
Suggested behavior for trips imported from iCals: Once the trip starts, disconnect it from the iCal so that when it goes into the past and disappears from the iCal, it doesn't disappear from Dopplr.
Thanks for the great site!
Ethan Jewett started following the idea "Roadtrip option in Dopplr" in Dopplr.
Ethan Jewett marked one of Matt Jones' replies in Dopplr as useful. Matt Jones replied to the idea "It'd be great to add a trip from someone else's itinerary.". Ethan Jewett and 2 other people think it's one of the best replies.
Amy Muller replied on April 15, 2008 17:26 to the idea "It'd be great to add a trip from someone else's itinerary." in Dopplr:
MattJ replied on April 15, 2008 16:05 to the idea "It'd be great to add a trip from someone else's itinerary." in Dopplr:
Celia replied on April 14, 2008 09:17 to the problem "iCal import trips automatically delete and re-add occasionally" in Dopplr:
Ethan Jewett reported a problem in Dopplr on April 12, 2008 13:39:
iCal import trips automatically delete and re-add occasionallyI have a calendar import set up from Tripit, which works great, except . . .
Occasionally the trips that have been imported from my iCal get deleted and re-added. This only appears to happen when the link has not been broken by editing the trip in Dopplr. This started happening last Saturday and happened again this Saturday.
I didn't make any changes to my Tripit feed, though I suppose they could have reset something on there side.
This isn't exactly a problem for me, but I assume it also causes my trips to show up again in all of my contact's activity feeds. Not good :-(
Thanks,
Ethan
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happyfarmr replied on April 03, 2008 02:33 to the idea "Addinging future-presence based on airline and hotel confirmation emails" in Dopplr:
i think that adding itinerary information would expand Dopplr's utility because then one could use Dopplr to actually plan a trip with people or store reference information for one's own or someone else's trip. That would make things easier if you were picking up a friend at the airport because you wouldn't have to fish out the itinerary they sent you a few weeks/days ago. Or if you were meeting up with people at a house you rented you could just stash the rental info on Dopplr instead of in some email or group thread. Or heck, if you and your friends travel a lot, you might actually have a layover in common and could meet up in the elite lounge. It's also good for people at work or home that might need to find you.
Ben Metcalfe replied on February 29, 2008 20:18 to the idea "Addinging future-presence based on airline and hotel confirmation emails" in Dopplr:
"Adding the dates and times I'm in a city to Dopplr is an order of magnitude less frustrating than booking the flights and hotels in the first place."
Sure, but it's a necessary dependency (unless your driving there and staying with friends I guess). So if that dependency chasm is already crossed then I reckon it's important for Dopplr to let me extract as much value from that process as possible by utilizing the valuable information contained in those emails generated.
"Ben, it sounds like you're not really bothered about that a lot of the time... I would totally cross town in New York or Shanghai to hang out with my Dopplr contacts! If the trip was too short to bother doing that, I probably wouldn't add it to Dopplr."
In general I would too, especially if I'm traveling back to my native London (I live in San Francisco). But for short hops to places like LA which I do weekly, I can't realistically jump over to Pasadena when I'm holed up in West Beverly Hills overnight.
"If you don't want serendipity, likely serendipity doesn't want you :) "
I do want serendipity, but I don't see why that serendipity can't come for free/zero-time spent. In fact, that then increases the chances of serendipity for my contacts too. It's a two-way thing.
"will TripIt add trip sharing". They already do. It's not as good as Dopplr and also friend discovery is non-existent so I have to add friends by adding in their email address.
But with my developer hat on, it's not hard to improve the friend discovery - and easier than adding email parsing... which is why I'm concerned for Dopplr. TripIt actually has all the nuts and bolts in place, it's just poorly designed right now.
Maybe Dopplr is trying to go after a different kind of person. Could be it. If it is then the subtlety is lost on me (and no doubt others). I look at myself - a very frequent traveler, who lives abroad, has contacts around the world but very time poor. Up until know I thought and assumed I was bang on Dopplr's target market. But if I am, they can't expect me to manually enter my plans when the data is already there. It's not very Web2.0, dare I say it.
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