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    Golwar replied on February 11, 2008 20:03 to the discussion "New: Hubdub questions now have their own category" in Hubdub:

    Golwar
    Well the own group for those questions surely was an improvement. But I'm one of those who consider many of the hubdub related questions gamey or at least irrelevant.
    So yes, it's better now. But hubdub without hubdub questions would be even better
  • idea

    Golwar replied on February 11, 2008 19:41 to the idea "Proposed product fix: Claw-back of winnings on void" in Hubdub:

    Golwar
    As this was my proposal ( or at least I was one of severals ) I'm all for the elemination of this backdoor money-spinner.
    Surely not all on the leaderbord abuse the game this way, but it is possible and happens all the time, You just need to take closer look on the raising and droping activity on several gamey questions.

    There are several ways how to prevent negative results right away. Pick up the idea with the necessary PowerUser's OK before releasing new questions.
    Or put a little info bar to each question which signs the level of set flags. When many claim a question and its odds as doubtful, it would be a clear warning to everyone that the question is about to be being voided. Options might be to automatically prevent cash ins on very high alert levels, or to offer the gamers the option that they just receive their bet money back.
  • question

    Golwar replied on February 11, 2008 19:26 to the question "Help: Rules and common (mis)understandings" in Hubdub:

    Golwar
    Hi all,

    I'll try a short summary of my thoughts an those rules:

    * Reward System

    Great questions surely are worth a praise. Perhaps we shouldn't pay them with H$, but an alternative leaderbord of highly creative and masses inspiring inquirers would be great.

    Perhaps add an optional rating of 0-5 ( poor, standard, entertaining, challenging and whatever ) to each question, combine that result with the amount of money bet in a little formula and you receive an automatic list of the most entertaining freaks ;)
    The very basic standard questions should be left out right away of course.

    * Odds / Cheaters

    Hubdub surely needs one or more addtional hints about how realistic odds should look like and how crucial the factor odds is. So place a red warning box next to the boxes for odds. And better ask the creators once more if the really think that those fit well.

    What also surprises me is that flagging and comments are far too often ignored by the staff. Sure, they are short of time and manpower, but still - this needs an improvement. Power Users

    It also seems that many cheaters abuse those defects. I also bet on obviously crazy odds ( in case that it won't be voided), but I flag them too. I don't know if you already made your own thoughts on catching cheaters, besides IP-checks. But a simple idea might be: if someone very often bets on those voidable questions without flagging any of them, it might be very likely that he participated in cheating.
    Just my 2 Cent on detecting those "infidels" ;)

    Oh well, that was already more than expected and still not all that I could mention. So for the finish: Index questions should be handeled like sports, which means that they should be closed.
    Yes it can be entertaining with those ups and downs. But hey, it's just consuming time and about the luck to make the right pick at the right time. But it surely isn't anything related to big news and ones knowledge - but that's the real stuff.

    I'd prefer it far more if some special sport events would be open. We could mark those as special events so that they get all the attention they deserve. That would definately include more entertainment ( and even more knowledge ) than those 50-50 pure gamble market placements.
  • idea

    Golwar replied on February 11, 2008 19:23 to the idea "Sports Questions Suspend Time Issue" in Hubdub:

    Golwar
    I'll add the Time Zone stuff into my thought on this :)

    PST is fine, but it surely would be highly beneficial if each user could set his local time. When I created a bunch of Uefa Cup questions lately, I was so much into odds that I made mistakes with the precise settlement dates ( sorry for that Donal, you'll have some upcoming troubles there ) . Calculating odds should be of higher priority than checking time zones ;)

    Besides that I'd say: give users the ability to suggest alternative settlement dates, if obvious mistakes have been made. Perhaps one could consider automatic replacement of the dates when enough (Power) Users request a new settlement. That would surely be an immense help for you guys.
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