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Whenever you are uncertain why a question is suspended, you may "flag" the question. By flagging the question, you send a message directly to the category editor of hubdub responsible for the question and attract his attention to that specific question. He might unsuspend the question or check if a settlement is possible. If you post a question to the cat ed, s/he might answer it directly by sending you an e-mail response.

If you know the outcome of the question yourself, you might as well use the "request settlement" feature, telling the category editor to settle the market. This works best when submitting links to news sources which report the outcome of the market with your request.

These are legal features of Hubdub to support the cat editors and all users are encouraged to use them whenever appropriate to make suspension as short as possible.

Can we change the priority of the linked news-articles again?

Can we make the default position so the settlement information is expanded and if someone wants they can read less.

Can we move the information about the user who created the question and other questions created by that user and other markets about the subject above the news?
Can we have the old graph which was able to be zoomed in to a particular time frame. Could we get wager information on the graph (how much money, how many predictions).
What about flipping the comments, so newest comment is at the top.

I know from own experiences that designing a intuitive UI is very hard. I like how you rearranged the question page.

What I don't like though, is the restriction to the space available for the background-text. Yes, I've seen the "read all" button.

But I put in much effort in writing text to explain my questions (and others do too) and I'm worried that no one will read that anymore and so some people do not really know on what they prediction (the details, the "small" print"), or the circumstances of the settlement.

Example:

http://www.hubdub.com/m10585/Was_Beta...

There should at least be room for a few lines. Not just one or two.

Actually it wasn't, Markov was dealing directly with the Category Editor.

If the Get Sat forum and Contact Us forms are getting ignored, we would definitely like to know.

What to use if you feel the GetSat forum and the Contact Us form gets ignored - which was obviously the case here :( – kruijs, on July 10, 2008 10:36

Ahh, fair enough - I've got to admit I didn't look at that page when I was making changes - I'll try to change it this weekend (actually we could probably lose the news preview altogether and speed up the creation process). News is now gathered on the basis of all text (title/description/options and tags), and tags have no greater priority than any other words in this set. This was our intention in the first place, but unfortunately our original news provider wasn't really geared up to operate that way. Good points though. Thanks as ever for the feedback – chris, on July 04, 2008 20:30

"We don't use these tags for news gathering any more, so there is no longer any need to type contorted and repetitive phrases to try and find news articles"

I think users might benefit if this change in how news is pulled was made clearer.

If these "tags" aren't used to pull news, how is news pulled?

In the "create a question" process, a user still confronts the following:

"News preview: Improve this news by editing news keywords", and "News keywords: xxx, yyy, zzz"

The terms "tags" and "news keywords" seem to be somewhat 'at odds' with each other, (to improve the "keywords", a user needs to navigate 'back' and change the "tags" -- which isn't clear).

"News Preview" does show the "tags" that the user entered earlier, as the "news keywords".

I think this may create both user confusion, and less than desired "key words" ("tags"?).

thanks all who helped with this. i understand more than i did before i started. have a nice day.

@ dieseldoggg -- I think there are variables that may affect the amount of the "increased result" one sees in net worth after a successful settlement.

Let's say you make a H$5,000 prediction on "yes" at 50% on a question as the example for this.

Most of the previous examples have talked about "predictions gaining value during the time they were open" -- which results in something "less" than your seeing a H$5,000 "gain" when you receive settlement (does not include your H$5,000 stake which you also got back).

On the other side, if you made that H$5,000 prediction on "yes" at 50%, and most other users predicted "no" -- even to the extreme of "100% no", then your net worth would have decreased over time (as those other users predicted "no", the value of your "yes" prediction would steadily decrease (to H$4,500, H$4,000, H$3,000, etc...)

If the winning prediction is "yes", and the "net worth" of your prediction is H$0 (or close to it), then, after the settlement, your gain WILL show H$5,000 (and your "cash" will show an increase of H$10,000.)

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About the "ever increasing net worth over time" explanations ...

One way I can easily see the effect of this is, if I have made six predictions on the same market, over a period of time ... Say I predicted H$100 on "yes" six months ago at 33%; then another H$100 on "yes" a month later at 40%; another H$100 a month later at 47%, etc.

When, for example, I make my sixth H$100 prediction at 60%, I can look at the "value of my predictions", just before making the prediction, and then after. The value of my predictions doesn't increase by only H$100 after my last prediction -- but by, sometimes a significant greater amount (maybe H$200) -- as my last H$100 prediction also increased the "value" of all of my previous five H$100 predictions. (Said differently, if I cashed out any of those previous predictions, I would receive more than H$100 for each of them.)

In this example, my "cash" will decrease by exactly H$100 after my sixth prediction, but because my predictions increased by more than H$100, my net worth will increase by more than H$100.

As others have said, after a successful settlement, the amount of cash will increase by the amount of the original stake, plus the amount of "gain" from all of my six predictions.

My net worth, however, is unlikely to increase by that full amount, as my original stake is simply moved from "predictions" to "cash", and some amount of the gain I received was already reflected in the value of my "predictions".

dieseldoggg, please don't be offended if (1) this doesn't answer your question, or (2) if some/most/all of this you already know. Like others, I'm just trying to give your question "my best shot" ;-)

@jenni...i understand what your saying. maybe this has happen to you and you can say yea that happens. after the question settled in settled predictions it said gained $30,000. my net worth only increased by $10,000. i'm no math wizard but thats -$20,000. i don't have gains that big (first one in fact) do you? if you do, do you only get a 3rd? thats what caught my attention..i thought yee haw i'll break the $200,000 mark. well needless to say that ain't how it worked. on small gains, say $4 or $5,000 my net worth goes up by the settled predictions. after i here from you i'll close this out. thanks to all who helped.

Let me take a stab at this...

Let's say you invest 100 dollars at 50% odds. On your prediction tab, it says Staked 100, If right you get 200, Currently worth 100.

Then some more people bet on the market and now the market is sitting at 75 percent. Now your prediction tab says Staked 100, if right you get 200, Currently worth 150.

Finally, the market settles and you get that friendly little email: "Well done! You gained $100"

So the confusing part is what's actually going on with your money through all of this.. Your net worth is composed of your cash and your predictions (that's in the upper right of the screen).

Let's say that when all this started, you had only 100 dollars in cash and no other predictions. Then your screen would say: Cash 100, Predictions 0, Net worth 100.

After you make your prediction, the cash is put into the predictions. Now it says Cash 0, Predictions 100, Net Worth 100.

Now people are agreeing with you and your prediction has increased in value... You have Cash 0, Predictions 150, Net Worth 150.

Finally, after settlement the money moves from predictions back to cash... Cash 200, Predictions 0, Net Worth 200.

Where people get confused about is that the email said "You won 100" and yet it appears that your net worth only went up by fifty bucks. The important part is that your net worth had ALREADY gone up.

So its not that your not getting your money at settlement, its that you already HAD some of it. It was in your predictions money, not cash, but was already affecting your net worth.

I hope that helps a bit and didn't make it even more confusing!

now let's see chris. i gained 4,231 and lost 3,096 on cash in. that gave me a net gain of 1,135. my net worth was 173,715. so add them togeather you get 174,850. i'll be darn it that ain't close to what my home page is saying. so since "it is painfully obvious that the problem is that you don't understand what the figures mean" according to you, maybe you would like to explain them to me. oh wait it's not a priority. i sent ryan the same info i sent you and asked him to give it to you. i still haven't got an email from you requesting any info. maybe between the two of you something can be worked out. have a nice day.

one major thing:
-I really have problems to access the "Suspend Date" calendar. The button just wont show up, so I have to focus the dropdown for Hour and then do a CRL+TAB to focus the previous input-element (which is the button to let the calendar pop up) which is not visible.

i've never got a request for more info from you chris. did you receive the info i sent you? i sent you 2 pages. is chris@hubdub.com the right email addy?

Another possibly major thing: is this actually working for non superusers? My two nonsuperuser contacts both do not have "create as new" options for questions they created...