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Luther started following the idea "OSX/Linux Support" in BumpTop.
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Luther started following the idea "Thickness of tiles" in BumpTop.
A comment on the idea "List the piles' contents" in BumpTop:
Well this is not exactly what I was describing. What I meant was not flipping the icons (that is a great option by the way) but a faster way to see the contents and operate on single files without having to delve into the pile to get to the right file. – Luther, on April 15, 2009 16:34
A comment on the idea "Focus!" in BumpTop:
Ok Daniel, the radial menu is alright to me, only maybe it would take TWO menus (possibly to be triggered with different mouse gestures after clicking) to make room for all the options. Well what you say about having some icons transparent does make sense, but that can be achieved by having... yup, a very thin 3D icon, or a glassy one... Anyway I believe 3D is 3D, that is to say, having 2D objects bump onto each other and interact in a 3d space is not very realistic and intuitive in the first place. It beats the whole concept of it. – Luther, on April 15, 2009 00:17
Luther shared an idea in BumpTop on April 14, 2009 23:54:
List the piles' contentsHello all - I was thinking, wouldn't it be nice if we could have a faster access at the composition of the piles? I mean they are very useful to group files in a nature-like way, but... when stacking icons onto each other we lose sight of files' names and type (yes it's true, I'm obsessed with this issue). So maybe a function could be added to display on-screen a list of the names of files composing the pile when we move the mouse pointer onto it. And...display it pretty large if you ask me. Afterwards, one could: 1 - click with the left button on a file name to open that file, or 2 - you guessed it, click on the right button to bring up the context menu of said file, or 3 - rotate the wheel mouse to slip that file's icon out of the pile. This would allow working on piled up icons while leaving the piles intact. Optionally, to avoid confusion, one could choose to have the files' list displayed by right-clicking on the pile instead of mousing over.
Added: WHOOPS! I just found this post:
http://getsatisfaction.com/bumptop/to...
The automatic "similar post finder" didn't show it, I only found it later in the rightmost column... Well this means I'm not alone I guess.
A comment on the idea "Focus!" in BumpTop:
Well It's beyond me how people can consider the option for enlarging or shrinking an icon to be hierarchically above the basic functions for a file like cutting, pasting or deleting and as such require one click less. At the very least they should be put in the same menu...
As to the difficulty in rendering 3d icons, I never said the shape has to follow that of the icon, a 3D parallelepiped would do perfectly fine - I'm just wishing for BumpTop to go back to the prototype video in this, no more and no less. As to the additional texture, I believe a 256 colors 15 per 50 texture would be more than enough if only to show the file type on the small face of the parallelepiped... I don't think it would be much of an additional load... especially if the zooming-focusing got implemented, and the side texture only got visualized when a small fraction of the desktop was shown. – Luther, on April 14, 2009 00:58
Luther replied on April 13, 2009 19:25 to the idea "Perfect BumpTop" in BumpTop:
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Luther started following the idea "Clean Desktop: A way of getting BT to look in folders instead of desktop!" in BumpTop.
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Luther started following the question "no thumbnail previews :(" in BumpTop.
Luther shared an idea in BumpTop on April 13, 2009 17:07:
Focus!First of all, Sir Agarawala, you and your colleagues rock! This is the future and I have no doubt about it. BumpTop is stuffed full of great ideas and I've been following the project for long already. I'll add my two cents.
What I think is somehow hindering the managing of icons-files (especially since Bumptop is all about managing literally BUNCHES of them) is the fact that the more icons lumped together, the less visual hints there are. So in my opinion there should be (at least optionally) a way of enlarging the area where one is working by tieing a magnified focus to the mouse pointer or by some other method. When multitouch is implemented, a gesture could be used to select just a section of the screen.
This way we could be able to have a clearer view of icons we are working on, esp. useful to make full use of thumbnails (see below) or just to tell one file from another. Yes I've got this feeling sometimes things are a bit too far from the eye compared to the OLD :-) Windows desktop.
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1 - as many other people have pointed out (and I understand you have taken notice already) there should be an option to glue single icons, or groups of them, to the desktop in case we don't want them bumped around or we don't want them eligible for making piles.
2 - Thumbnails for PDF, HTM, PPT etc. etc. documents (optional at least).
3 - I, too, believe the "more" option to get to the original context menu when right-clicking on a file is a little inconvenient. Right-clicking with CTRL pressed hardly improves the situation. In my mind there should be something like "right-click on an icon invokes the original menu, and subsequently moving the pointer to the left or upwards brings up the circular menu.
4 - (very important) CRISPER icons - and thumbnails when implemented! Have them designed in vectorial. As of now, the more I enlarge them, the more blurry they get.
5 - I'd like to have "light arrows" for the shortcuts, the likes of those TweakUI allows for.
6 - Everyone wants that and me too... get Crumpling AND Peeling the icons back!
7 - Give support for non-latin fonts (specifically Chinese) for the filenames (this is possibly my fault but I still see squares in place of Chinese characters).
8 - Last but not least - give back to BumpTop icons that solid, tactile feel that I loved so much in the video of the prototype. There definitely has to be an option to have them in 3D. Yes I know it's going to be heavier on resources, but I believe it's an important part of the experience. If we could have a chance to choose the thickness of the icons, this could also be expedient in delivering visual clues - for example, the info on the type of file - or even its name - could even be carried on the "spine" (the small side) of the icon - and we would not always need shuffling a pile to get a peek at the single icons. This would go in the direction of the "library shelf" metaphor many people have mentioned already.
Ok, I believe that's a lot of stuff for now... sorry for being so wordy!
(added) Well now I remember... in the videoclip in the very home page of BumpTop.com there IS a magnifying effect on the section of the desktop where operations with icons are performed... by the sound of it, this requires hitting some key... but in this page
http://bumptop.pbwiki.com/BumpTop-Key...
I haven't found anything regarding focusing or zooming... Is it currently in development maybe?-
Luther started following the question "How do I get preview icons from PPT, PDF and DOC formats?" in BumpTop.
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Luther started following the question "thumbnails, esp. for text files" in BumpTop.
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