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Marcus shared an idea in Songbird on March 26, 2009 13:56:
multiple tagging system, usability and layoutI know this topic exists, but with the point on how tagging could/should be done.
From there I would draw the Conclusion: IT IS POSSIBLE, but some real programmer should decide where to write the data.
(to me it seems best to use an empty field in id3-tag system, at least for mp3's, and use comma separated labels, no data lost, other players can show the tag field, with all the comma separated labels in them as well, although they can't use them.)
So my point is how we, the users, would make use of it.
So here are three suggestions: maybe some others like it, maybe they can be improved and maybe they can be realised one or another way on one or another day.
To me it is absolutly certain that multiple tags will come to Media Players as well.
When I first used a Media Player (10 years ago) I was already complaining about this.
But when I look now at the whole web2.0 thing, those systems became so common.
Blogs, News, Videos, Online Streams, and Songs on Last.fm...
It is more than the time now to teach Media Players multiple tagging systems!
And Songbird I like most, so I hope our bird will win the race!!!
My suggestion:
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general point: beeing able to use those labels for filtering the song list or hopefully even in combination with the filter pane (so that one can make a pre-selection via labels and only selected labels are passed on to the filter pane where one has a nice overlook over albums/Artist etc. that fit the label selection. My library is not to big alltogether 32GB but still i find it hard to search trough it)
1.line with label fields and drop down menu to select
simply having a small line with one field (to start of) clicking on it one can choose labels via drop down menu, and then have the possibility to select another label as well (if there are songs with both labels)
2. big list
just a list with all labels, where one can select them maybe by checkboxes, in the very left panel (under Playlist)
and the ability of alphabetical scrolling. just mark a label (1 click) then hit a key (letter o) and the mark scrolls to the first label starting with "o" or something similar.
double clicking the label will activate the checkbox.
3. a "cloud of words" (or better a "swarm of birds")
a label cloud, but with two options and an input field:
option1: size by total number of label (so that labels given to most songs are biggest)
option2: size by label selection count (so that labels i selected most often are biggest)
input field: again alphabetical selection, input "a" shows only labels starting with "a" ... ... ...
selecting a label is simply done by clicking on it, then it's color is changing (or it "flows" to a line at the bottom or top, where all selected labels fly to, just clicking on them there makes them fly back into the cloud again)
and maybe again an option to show only unlabeled, only labeled, only selected labels.
and instead a cloud of Birds it would be cool to have a "swarm of Birds"
little songbird-logo-style birds with the label names on them.
selecting a label makes the bird fly to a tree and sit down on a branch. (and/or change its feathers)
looking quite happy.
clicking on it again (unselecting the label) makes the bird turn his head towards the user, making an angry face and fly away to the swarm again.
hehehe
:-)))-
Marcus started following the idea "Last.fm-like multiple tag system" in Songbird.
Marcus marked one of faaaab's replies in Songbird as useful. faaaab replied to the idea "Last.fm-like multiple tag system". Marcus and 5 other people think it's one of the best replies.
Marcus marked one of faaaab's replies in Songbird as useful. faaaab replied to the idea "Last.fm-like multiple tag system".
Marcus replied on March 26, 2009 09:44 to the idea "Well, I do hate to say it that way... library management" in Songbird:
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Marcus started following the idea "Well, I do hate to say it that way... library management" in Songbird.
Marcus replied on March 26, 2009 09:41 to the question "metadata and ID3 tagging" in Songbird:
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Marcus started following the question "metadata and ID3 tagging" in Songbird.
Marcus replied on March 26, 2009 09:37 to the question "where does 1.1.1 store the retained album covers?" in Songbird:
I Don't get it...!
Some album art files are stored in the folder from the album as .jpg, the bird shows them, iTunes shows most of them, but not all.
Some other album art seems to be directly in the mp3-code (somwhere in whatever tag), cause there are no picture what so ever in the folders, the bird shows them, iTunes shows them, the MMonkey and the Windoof Mist Player (Windows Media Player) are not showing them...
ARRRG
But respect to the feathered Team: Your Bird seems to be able to read most ways the album art is saved.
But can your Songbird somehow rewrite all album art, so that they are shown on other players and are in a somehow uniform way?-
Marcus started following the problem "Album cover recognition in media-flow" in Songbird.
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Marcus started following the idea "Last.fm heavy integration" in Songbird.
Marcus replied on March 26, 2009 09:01 to the question "Listen to Last.fm radios" in Songbird:
I'm not impressed...
It doesn't find my last stations ("letzte Sender") on the last fm page there are four stations listed, that i listened to recently, the songbird last fm page does not show them.
And when I listen to the radio, tha station, the now playing artist,song and album are shown, but when i click on it, I'm not directed to the now playing artist,song or album, the link ONLY leads to the radio station.
Also it would be nice to have the "tagging" "love song" and so on buttons implemented.
So for now it is more comfortable to visit last fm with mozilla firefox and use the mozilla lastfm player (fire.fm) add on!
But I'm really looking forward to improvements and will use songbird anyway...
Marcus replied on March 26, 2009 08:47 to the idea "Playlist folder support in Songbird" in Songbird:
Yes, folders for playlists are a good Idea (there is another topic which suggests the same, as far as I understood it)
AND: I also would love it to have folders for the bookmarks!
or another way to remember YouTube videos. maybe via "URL" field in the youtube player? somhow like this: mark "url" to this video on the YouTube Page, right click, and then have the option "bookmark this url" or "remeber this video" AND "ad this video to a playlist"-
Marcus started following the idea "Playlist folder support in Songbird" in Songbird.
Marcus replied on March 26, 2009 08:41 to the question "Nested Playlists/Playlist folders" in Songbird:
Marcus replied on March 25, 2009 21:33 to the idea "Import WMP ratings to songbird and complete with last.fm" in Songbird:
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Marcus started following the idea "Import WMP ratings to songbird and complete with last.fm" in Songbird.
Marcus asked a question in Songbird on March 25, 2009 17:30:
filter by directory / multiple changing hard drives as sourceThere is an Add On, that should kind of do what i need, but it is not "installable"
Songbird: 1.1.1
add on: http://addons.songbirdnest.com/addon/...
reason i want this:
on my laptop i only have little harddrive space, so there is one music partition of about 12GB. It's enough for normal use in everyday live.
On my external HD i got my "real" music library (several more GB ;-) )
Now I need a mediaplayer that doesn't get confused by this.
I travel home every weekend and all Players i tried so far (iTunes, WMP, realPlayer, MediaMonkey) are not useful in this case, because every weekend they complain about missing tracks/broken links etc.
WMP has an "browse by location" possibility, but in the library I still have a lot of songs two times, because I can't use the location as a filter option.
with media monkey it is kind of possible to do what I want, but I dont like it.
Songbird is far cooler!!!
I can think of several ways solving this, but I'm not a Programmer so don't know how easy they are to realize?
a) a toggle button to switch between libraries
b) a filter option "location"
e.g. like in media monkey: I can select the correct drive (e.g. D:\MyBigMusicLibrary or C:\Musikonthelittlelaptop) and I can even select both, so It shows all songs that are dubble twice.
or if anyone can think of a better way this would be really cool!
are there any chances to create an add on? or to make the add on mentioned above make "installable" again?-
Marcus started following the idea "Sort by directory structure, please!" in Songbird.
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Marcus started following the question "how to find my music files through their filename or directory (like in winamp, ..I'm using linux now.. ;)" in Songbird.
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