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@wykananda
I am not sure if you work for Google, but I find it strange someone who likes conversation threading would come to a support thread where people who do not like conversation threading are here to express to google why they would like the option to turn the F****ng thing off!

A lot of what you say about Yahoo is false, and I personally FAR prefer the new Yahoo calendar (beta) to google calendar.

Support on google is absolutely non existent. I have had several direct exchanges with yahoo.

Yahoo is developing new stuff all the time, not to the degree of google, of course, but I am happy to pay £10 a year for a yahoo mail plus account, and Im sure others are too.

Gmail has no features which are of any interest to me. I want a mail programme to have folders on the top left, messages to the right, and a reading pane below. Full stop. If google cannot provide that, I will go elsewhere, hence Yahoo.

Saying one should get used to the way Google works is, for me, like telling someone who has had an arm chopped off to get used to it, there are some advantages. YOU may not see it that way, but I DO.

But its weird you, who LIKE the way it is, would spend ANY time here. Its not like if they provide conversation threading as an option they would then be taking something away from YOU... so why are you here, you clearly disagree with all these people who want a thread-less mail option...

Mark.

@wykananda
Accusing people of making "empty accusations" when they are clearly frustrated, annoyed and disappointed with gmail is of little value to anybody.

You like conversation threading. This thread is for people who do not like conversation threading adn would like google to change that feature.

Why do you spend so much energy trying to prove you are right. Please do us a favour and go away.

Thanks very much,
Mark.

@wykananda
you sure do a lot of sighing!

i use imap on yahoo, and via my WMPhone too.

there is plenty of great flitering on yahoo, you can create FOLDERS (remember those?) and filter different pop accounts into account folders (try that with google!)

i prefer the yahoo apps to google, especially the calendar which is more responsive and has a fantastic zoom feature. (but we are talking about MAIL, not about chatting or conferencing or turning a Fugly interface into something a little less vile by having a pretty banner on top)

Yahoo has a far better design that Google, more user friendly and more logical. Google is faster.

@wykananda
I use email for email. I am not interested in the chatting and other stuff you mention as "features" of gmail.

the new look yahoo mail is absolutely beautiful. It has a much more powerful attachment facility than gmail, and looks like an email programme, and has a very elegant graphic design - not a smudged mess of text like the gmail interface.

not having a preview panel is another awful aspect of gmail, that it takes you from your message view when you click on a message... then you have to navigate back to see your messages again... an unnecessary step an messy IMO.

the only reason i want gmail to work as I would like it to work is that it has the fastest searching abilities.

so do you work for google?

@wykananda
I am not sure if you work for Google, but I find it strange someone who likes conversation threading would come to a support thread where people who do not like conversation threading are here to express to google why they would like the option to turn the F****ng thing off!

A lot of what you say about Yahoo is false, and I personally FAR prefer the new Yahoo calendar (beta) to google calendar.

Support on google is absolutely non existent. I have had several direct exchanges with yahoo.

Yahoo is developing new stuff all the time, not to the degree of google, of course, but I am happy to pay £10 a year for a yahoo mail plus account, and Im sure others are too.

Gmail has no features which are of any interest to me. I want a mail programme to have folders on the top left, messages to the right, and a reading pane below. Full stop. If google cannot provide that, I will go elsewhere, hence Yahoo.

Saying one should get used to the way Google works is, for me, like telling someone who has had an arm chopped off to get used to it, there are some advantages. YOU may not see it that way, but I DO.

But its weird you, who LIKE the way it is, would spend ANY time here. Its not like if they provide conversation threading as an option they would then be taking something away from YOU... so why are you here, you clearly disagree with all these people who want a thread-less mail option...

Mark.

LOL
I have been trying to get Google to turn OFF that Fu**** threading for quite some time now... but i guess it aint gonna happen.

LOL
ironic that you write a 10,000 word essay about debloating!
but the #1 reason I have moved to Yahoo mail is because of the threading, it is simply awful, kept on missing emails, and that isnt particularly appealing.
I see you are confident there is a solution... hmmm.... im not so sure, my guess is some poncy ass in a suit decided threading was the way of the future and its gonna stay that way.
i REALLY hope im wrong.
mark.

I am particularly interested in having the conversation threading turned OFF, its insane how often things go missing, slip under the radar, and for what? why is Google so stubborn on this?

Guys, I think Google ignores this thread. START ANOTHER ONE WITH EACH COMPLAINT ABOUT THIS... at least that way google might take a bit more notice.
It's insane google have done NOTHING to communicate to the hundreds who have expressed frustration over this for years.

For some reason, the main thread on this subject was marked SOLVED by the Google employee... but every week, for over a year, I have received several posts to this thread where dozens of others have taken the time to find this forum to post their frustrations. Some beg Google, plead, scream, but it seems to fall on deaf ears.

PLEASE ALLOW USERS TO TURN OFF CONVERSATION THREADING...
PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Hi Eric,
What I mean is I would like it to have a form filling ability, not just username and password, but all details, from address to phone number to credit card details etc. (If the security is REALLY good!)
But at the moment it just does password and usernames.
Thanks
Mark. – mark palmos, on February 03, 2009 13:48