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newscollecter marked one of rohan's replies in Hubdub as useful. rohan replied to the question "Result of the vote".
newscollecter replied on April 09, 2008 12:37 to the question "Result of the vote" in Hubdub:
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 19:08 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
Clarification - "dangerous" because if you are opting for democracy then you are diminishing you're own power and right to act .
If in the future you think something is 100% right and you are unable too prove your logic then you will have too bow to pressure from your users , who may not have researched the issue as much ass you .
What about my other idea to replace the TwoWeeks procedure ?
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 18:59 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 18:58 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 18:42 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 18:27 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
I also do not understand this process of no question creation for 2 weeks .
I simply do not understand how two weeks will make a difference , I mean why suddenly 2 weeks , why not 2 months or 2 years .
Instead I propose that in the future Hubdub does not implement this procedure ( lets call it the TwoWeeks proposal). Instead of this TwoWeeks procedure I think Hubdub should monitor all questions created by suspected users , examine all bets and if they find suspicious activity they suspend the question and ask the user to provide evidence for starting odds .
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 17:09 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
newscollecter replied on April 08, 2008 17:05 to the question "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming (part 2)" in Hubdub:
Sorry I am a day late .
I am happy with the developments . I believe that my point is proven now , with Jerry admitting to getting money from a bug .
However getting back to the point I think this voting procedure is not justified. Its like you are throwing the responsibilities upon our shoulders . You are the owner of the site and you are expected to take action . We here can only suggest , not decide . By proposing a voting mechanism you are creating a democratic situation . This is extremely dangerous as in the future this procedure may have to be used again and then you will have to bow to pressure.
I think that this decision should not be published as a community decision if less than 1% of the users vote.
You are the owner , you decide .
newscollecter replied on April 07, 2008 09:49 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
newscollecter replied on April 07, 2008 08:45 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
I am not against one user but I am against all the users who are convicted as well as those that are protesting . Even you are just a member of the site and your job is not to administer the site .
From other threads it has come to my notice that this user in question was fined some months ago . If after that instance there have been no issues raised by users while he made it to $300,000 why are you suddenly raising hell over $8000 . If there were any issues I am sure they would have been made public .
I also believe that all this started over some ICL tournament and a Badshahs vs. xyz team. Everyone was questioning why Satyaki set the odds to 50-50 . I did a bit of research , followed a link from one open question and I have made a startling discovery . These are figures from the last two matches of the Badshahs-
http://www.indiancricketleague.in/htm...
http://www.indiancricketleague.in/htm...
Surprising this "international" team has lost the competition . This means that this Satyaki may not have been lying all the time . However I know nothing more about ICL and I am sure others know more than I do about this league.
NOTE: " Its alright to game as long as you are not in the top five".
Can someone tell me how much this user was fined under the 50% scheme .
newscollecter replied on April 07, 2008 08:30 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
Its like all this time all the users had their guns pointed on this user , had their finger on the trigger but had no bullet. Suddenly someone gives them a bullet (which is way too small to use) and they all start firing .
I still say that this discussion indicates only one thing -
" Its alright to game as long as you are not in the top five".
newscollecter marked one of sd's replies in Hubdub as useful. sd replied to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming". newscollecter and 3 other people think it's one of the best replies.
newscollecter replied on April 06, 2008 20:09 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
While enjoying a relaxing Sunday I have made a survey of the previous quarters results and from careful investigation it has come to my notice that anyone on the top five must have a category where they can excel in . For crudsy its sports , for rohan and infernalmachine its business( also tech for rohan) , for satyaki its entertainment and sports while destry and jers seem to be allrounders.
Except this jerry fellow I believe that everyone is doing something or the other.
In short all these users create a large amount of questions regarding their categories and make profits there . According to me these people are hell bent on making money and thats why it hurts them the most . In addition to this I am sure that every user on the top 5 has some gaming ( I like the word !) history . Some people I believe do it secretly while others are not so careful . As pointed out by rohan , people will always bet wildly if an outcome is known or is obvious .
I think the need here is for more transparency .
The main reason I am doing this is because I think that this thread is no longer going towards the gaming topic but against the one man who was caught gaming . From what I understand - the common opinion is that "Its alright to game as long as you are not in the top five . If you are in the top five and you game then you're finished" Also I think that this topic should not be brought up by users lke crudsy and destry who themselves might (NOTE: might)
be no less.
I have looked throughall those users that were mentioned above by a user and I am surprised that none of them have been pulled into this !!
One more thing - I find it extremely strange that Satyaki himself is not responding to any of these allegations . I mean I recieved 50 mails in 7 hours , he must have got the same but still he remains quiet . Is he scared or has he left already?
Just answer one question for me -
Are you on Hubdub for the money ( which you can't spend anywhere nor save for retirement) or for the fun part ?
Do not say both because it cannot be done .
NOTE: I still have not taken a stand against Satyaki , so don't think that I approve of his actions.
newscollecter replied on April 06, 2008 12:36 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
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newscollecter replied on April 06, 2008 12:28 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
I personally think that we do not have all the facts out yet so we require an indepth investigation . This is NOT something which can be settled in a day . We need to find people with the proper knowledge and confirm with them .
I somehow do not like this idea of a strike . I cannot believe that people are charging at a person for making 8000 when they themselves have so much money . I mean its like we are truly acting like a news channel , picking up every small little crime and making it national news .
newscollecter replied on April 06, 2008 12:22 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
No offense - I have not taken a stand on this issue yet ( it hardly matter to me ) but from my viewpoint a user cannot multiply 8350 into a considerable fortune in the mentioned time period . Maybe he made 20,000 or so ( maximum ) from these funds but what I think is that every user on the top five is a hypocrite and they all indulge in similar activity . Its just that they don't make it public so we do not know about it yet .
newscollecter replied on April 06, 2008 12:21 to the discussion "Proposed new procedure for dealing with gaming" in Hubdub:
No offense - I have not taken a stand on this issue yet ( it hardly matter to me ) but from my viewpoint a user cannot multiply 8350 into a considerable fortune in the mentioned time period . Maybe he made 20,000 or so ( maximum ) from these funds but what I think is that every user on the top five is a hypocrite and they all indulge in similar activity . Its just that they don't make it public so we do not know about it yet .
newscollecter replied on April 05, 2008 18:05 to the discussion "The Golden Rules for successfully playing the HUBDUB" in Hubdub:
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