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Hey TTT --
No i don't have a stake in the company! Discussions are hard on a wiki -- and while we are getting our forums up and running, I chose to use this.
:) – KrissyMo, on August 21, 2008 19:14

A comment on the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Hey TTT --
No i don't have a stake in the company! Discussions are hard on a wiki -- and while we are getting our forums up and running, I chose to use this.
:) – KrissyMo, on August 21, 2008 19:14

Diane replied on August 21, 2008 18:09 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

When in doubt, cite it! I use this phrase frequently when teaching. For summer camp, I created a wiki for a writing class. One of the major components of the class is APA citation. The students hate it, but by the end of the class, they understand why they have to do it and how important it is.

I try to remind them that if they had a brilliant idea and announced it during class and one of the other students actually acted on it, they would be angry and upset. They need to think about that when they write.

In this hyperlinked age, it is so easy to cut and paste and forget to give credit where credit is due.

JJ replied on August 21, 2008 18:07 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

As many have said, I require students to cite all non-original material, both text and images. They grumble, but get used to it quickly. It is an important lesson in teaching them accountability and giving credit to original creators.

gayle replied on August 21, 2008 17:17 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Footnotes need to be used any time a writer is using the work of others. For one, it provides credit to the originator. For another, it allows the reader to dig deeper, validated the accuracy,learn more, etc.

swo replied on August 21, 2008 15:37 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Obviously, any time that a student is doing research and is unsing information from a source, it needs to be footnoted. Technology is a great tool and has opened up new avenues of learning for students; however, it has also made plagiarism so much easier for students. The way around this is to have students present the information that requires them to put their spin or perspective on what they've learned (e.g., I-search or multi-genre paper).

Shayne replied on August 21, 2008 14:21 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Some other 'food for thought' about citation... When I went back to teaching four years ago, I gave my students a boring but traditional task to research and write four pages about an artist from the period we were studying. More than 3/4s of the students plagiarized directly from the internet and handed in 'their' work with a pretty cover page. I reminded them that I was also the school's computer teacher and that this was unacceptable. One student hadn't even bothered removing hyperlinks! I could tell quite easily that they had copied and pasted because the language was waaaay too sophisticated for this bunch and I quickly found all the pages that they had copied by googling phrases.

This led me to completely change the way that I gave assignments. Now my projects and reports require a personal opinion component, for example, the feelings elicited by a work of art, a painting in the style of an artist, etc. Some of my students don't actually want to be in art (long story - I'm opposite chemistry or physics) so I try to differentiate my assignments so they have a choice of written or studio work.

There are many sources that give advice on structuring assignments to avoid plagiarism. Here is one example: Helping Students Avoid Plagiarism - a .pdf from Sonoma State University's Writing Center. Other handouts are available at http://www.sonoma.edu/programs/writin....

~ Shayne

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Shayne, this is a wonderful resource for all of us. Thank you. – EJK, on August 21, 2008 14:17

Shayne replied on August 21, 2008 13:57 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

In trying to add pages about citation to our summer camp wiki Citation Resources, I found that trying to give credit to YOU, the summer camp participants, is quite awkward. First of all, I would only use the displayed username and does the fact that you've posted ideas on a public wiki imply that you give permission for your ideas and wiki links (for public wikis) to be 'republished' on another page? What do you think?

Since Kristine mentioned on the webinar that she may eventually lock the summer camp pages, I've been trying to recreate, organize and expand the resources from week 2 at TBYResources which will be a public wiki. I invite everyone to contribute to and use this wiki. Note: (I'm still copying over information...)

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Thank you for all of your comments. I have now credited all my clip art using the great suggestion from the Sassy Librarian. I have also replaced the opening slide show and any other photos with photos of my own! Thank you!!! – Ruth, on August 21, 2008 13:30

cindy replied on August 21, 2008 11:59 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Footnotes should also be used when there is more information about a particular subset of a subject. If including the information in the text of the work interrupts the flow of the thought, it should be separated and placed elsewhere (in this day and age of webpages, the appropriate text should be highlighted and hyperlinked to the "footnote" instead of having the information appar at the bottom of the page).

Ceyo replied on August 21, 2008 02:23 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

I think students at all levels can "give credit where it's due." At elementary levels it may be basic and prosaic ("this picture is by so-and-so" or "for this project I got information from so-and-so") and at secondary levels it may be more formal, following MLA or APA formats. This would inlcude author, title, source, dates copyrighted/uploaded, date access, URL or publisher, and licensing/permissions (e.g. "used with permssion," "courtesy of," or "used by permission granted under Creative Commons licensing BY-NC-SA."

Being good digital citizens, knowing how to determine copyright, "fair use," asking permission for using copyrighted material, and determining how they as producers of copyrightable materials want to grant/deny others to use their work--all these are topics that teachers need to have among themselves, with students, with parents and administrators. Online media footnotes are enhanced by hyperlinks to the source as well.

wwilkins replied on August 21, 2008 02:16 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Students should footnote when ever they are using someone's ideas that does not come from the student. The best rule of thumb is when in doubt footnote. This such be done whether it is from a book, movie, website or a lecture that they listened to.

esmith1126 replied on August 20, 2008 23:45 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

I know that our HS librarian is very insistent on proper documentation of sources. I hope that our Language Arts teachers do also. I try to force the issue with my computer classes and absolutely insist on at least using a web site URL and date as documentation for images used in class.

A comment on the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

http://www.easybib.com/ this one is good too. – ielmike, on August 20, 2008 23:20

A comment on the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

http://www.easybib.com/ (try this!) – ielmike, on August 20, 2008 23:19

ielmike replied on August 20, 2008 23:18 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Anytime a student uses an idea that is not his or her own. There is no excuse for not citing as it is now possible to do so in a snap.

http://www.easybib.com/

Kellmoor replied on August 20, 2008 22:07 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

Students need to cite anything that is not their original creation. Early elementary students can begin by citing the book or URL and work their way up to an ALA or MLA type citation as they become older. The Creative Commons licensing has been a interesting point of discussion with my eighth graders. They continue to argue with me that anything posted on the web is free game...

eleanor replied on August 20, 2008 20:27 to the question "What information on your wiki should be cited using Footnotes?" in PBwiki:

I am the technology teacher in an elementary school and a computer applications instructor at a teachers college. I find the question of citing information a challange on all levels. It is so easy to just copy ideas by cutting and pasting and making a few changes. In the elementary school in the 5th and 6th grade the students are required to cite thier sources including url and author, whatever they are creating (powerpoint, word, ...) but it is always something that needs to be repeated over and over again. At the College level I require full citations, and again I am usually surprised at how many times people just allow themselves to use information without giving credit. I think that it is part of the online culture, where you feel that you are alone and people don't really see what you are doing. I have had more than one student try to hand in work that was not theirs and I am sure that there are several that got by me. How can I check - one way is to check the date that the file was created and another is to paste a phrase that is suspect into a search engine and see if it comes up in someone elses work.

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Thanks to Sassy Librarian for the suggestion about using the Alternative Text option under image properties. I have seen this before, but I had no idea how to set it up. I will definitely try this out. – Pam, on August 20, 2008 19:32