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A comment on the idea "Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accounts" in Twitter:
I'm not sure you read the young follow ratio inequity part? This isn't a stump for SURBL per se but one of the behavior and attributes of a given account. – Jay Cuthrell, on October 19, 2009 19:16
A comment on the problem "500 when reading comments or trying to login" in DotSpots:
No worries... all functional now. Thanks for the quick update. – Jay Cuthrell, on September 11, 2009 15:58
Jay Cuthrell marked one of Farhad's replies in DotSpots as useful. Farhad replied to the problem "500 when reading comments or trying to login".
Jay Cuthrell reported a problem in DotSpots on September 11, 2009 10:16:
500 when reading comments or trying to login500 error: There was an error talking to the server (500)
Jay Cuthrell reported a problem in DotSpots on September 11, 2009 10:16:
500 when reading comments or trying to login500 error: There was an error talking to the server (500)
Jay Cuthrell replied on April 28, 2009 23:35 to the idea "Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accounts" in Twitter:
And oddly enough... some progress is being made in the hiring pool at Twitter :) Cool!
http://twitter.jobscore.com/jobs/twit...
Jay Cuthrell marked one of Dennis Crowley's replies in foursquare as useful. Dennis Crowley replied to the problem "You think I'm giving fake check-ins! I'm not!".
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Jay Cuthrell started following the idea "Why not OAuth?" in foursquare.
Jay Cuthrell replied on January 04, 2009 01:13 to the idea "Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accounts" in Twitter:
Twitter's web interface is now showing this message:
"WARNING! If you get email notice about a DM with a link to blogspot.com it could be phishing."
http://status.twitter.com/post/681965...
Jay Cuthrell marked one of thisguydoug's replies in Seesmic as useful. thisguydoug replied to the problem "Seesmic making my Firefox crash.".
Jay Cuthrell replied on September 02, 2008 02:42 to the problem "Seesmic making my Firefox crash." in Seesmic:
Jay Cuthrell marked one of Thomas' replies in Twitter as useful. Thomas replied to the idea "Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accounts".
Jay Cuthrell replied on August 21, 2008 03:27 to the idea "Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accounts" in Twitter:
Yeah, I don't think my HTML inclusions made it. SURBL can be read about here http://surbl.org and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SURBL and here is how URL shortening services use it http://www.surbl.org/redirect.html
Jay Cuthrell replied on August 21, 2008 03:14 to the idea "Ban URL's for repeat spam offenders" in Twitter:
Spammers have responded in kind and now have the notion of at least a few entries rather than a URL in the Profile.
As part of the spy vs. spy escalation, I'd appreciate you taking a look at my idea as well http://gsfn.us/t/khp
Thanks!-
Jay Cuthrell started following the idea "Ban URL's for repeat spam offenders" in Twitter.
Jay Cuthrell replied on August 21, 2008 03:12 to the discussion "How would you prefer to report Twitter spam?" in Twitter:
I'd favor this be tempered with internal metrics at Twitter. I've describe the idea here http://gsfn.us/t/khp but having a feedback loop for items that fall outside the normal automation process is critical. So, I'm in favor of a "report" function of some manifestation.
Jay Cuthrell replied on August 21, 2008 03:11 to the idea "4 easy ideas to block twitter spam" in Twitter:
I'd appreciate you taking a look at my idea and letting me know what you think http://gsfn.us/t/khp
Jay Cuthrell replied on August 21, 2008 03:08 to the idea "Stop Twitter Spammers!" in Twitter:
I just threw an idea in over here http://gsfn.us/t/khp
Jay Cuthrell shared an idea in Twitter on August 21, 2008 03:00:
Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accountsConcept:
Twitter spam mitigation via SURBL applied to young Follow ratio inequity accounts
Synopsis:
Twitter should use SURBL checking against all published URL pushed by early life accounts for 90 days where a Follower to Following ratio is greater than ~100:1 as part of building a minor reputation score.
Details:
Based on what I have noticed since being on the service, there are a lot of spammer and developer possibilities right now. As Twitter operations and devel hooks have cranked down on certain areas there has been gravitation to other exploits or testing of the system.
A typical spammer account has the following characteristics:
1) < 10 followers with auto follow NOT selected
2) following +1000
3) +1 post with a obvious SURBL hit i.e. a spamvertized URL
4) Less than 90 days old
Considering how Blogger has dealt with these issues and other form based services, Twitter should use SURBL filters.
Proliferation:
Of course, obfuscation via shorter URL services might crop up overnight but these are also easily tracked in the XMPP aggregate to a manageable level. Consider that 100 new accounts of the form {girlname}{bigint} are likely not real people, are bots, and bots bent on spamvertising a single URL.
Secondarily, as with any emerging reputation system there will be shill creation and shill for hire if a follower reputation is created based on auto-follow classification.
Third, it is likely that any internal algorithm will eventually be gamed as the corpus of user creation maps to larger and more automated applications. 90 days is a sliding scale that will require tuning.
Afterword and Suggestions
While I appreciate the effect of growing net new accounts for Twitter via bot techniques of spammers -- it starts to feel like Blogger. I'd like to suggest that Twitter consider
a) SURBL implementation guided by community inputs and tempered by anti-spam leaders
b) shortly thereafter ratify or endorse a SURBL compliant (stated) URL shortening service
Conclusion
Enforcing reputation and checks against SURBL removes a key vector being used by these namespace and follow approaches by the current run of spammers on Twitter.
Jay Cuthrell marked one of crystal's replies in Twitter as useful. crystal replied to the problem "Restore process has me in an infinite loop. I want to restore a freshly (3 days) deleted account.".
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